You’re exaggerating. Xebec roughed up a cocky tough ancient giant kid once or twice. Garp beat up a weakling like Luffy every single day and nobody cared because the story brushed it off. Same thing with Loki and Xebec. I mean Garp’s straight up a child abuser.
I’m not exaggerating lol, the story literally draws attention to how wild it is that Rocks brutalised Loki with a kid through Whitebeard criticising him. And then we see that Harald is oblivious as to how he obtained his injuries.
Do you think Harald would have been so friendly with him if he knew what Rocks had did to Loki?
That line was meant to hype Xebec. Oda followed it with him wrecking a Gate of Justice. Hell, Rocks’ introduction is narrated with him killing an admiral. If you still cannot see that this is a strength feat, then please do whatever it takes to convince yourself at this point lol. It’s getting tiresome ngl.
Wrecking the Gates of Justice is not a strength feat, I don’t know why you think that helps your argument.
What it does is show the audacity of Rocks, that he‘s going up against the World Gov directly and attacking them in a way that no one else had done. Same for murdering an Admiral.
But that works just as well if Rocks murdered an Admiral in cold blood, mot im a fight. It’s still showing that he’s doing unheard of deeds. And even if he did murder the Admiral in less than honourable circumstances, it doesn’t mean he’s not strong.
What’s tiresome is people getting so distracted by the shiny new character and hyped up by powerscaling that they refuse to actually consider him as a character.
Whitebeard has acted at home with everyone on the crew. He even made Rocks pick up the tab, which ties back to Marco calling him a cheapskate. It’s not hard to understand that he grew attached to people he spent over a decade with. He even calls out Xebec when their ideals clash and warned him about losing focus on the mission to save Shakky. He cared about the crew and was the first to suspect a traitor.
Whitebeard's‘s literally said he had a ton of bad experiences with the Rocks Pirates and you think he thought they were family?
They were trying to kill each other mid mission lmao.
Why exactly do you think that Whitebeard thinking that the Marines were tipped off equates to him caring about the crew? Where is the connection?
And you seriously think he stuck around for half his life just because of a Davy Back fight and his pride? Lmfao. What kind of psycho do you think Whitebeard is? If he really hated his time with those guys, he could have just challenged Xebec again or really just walk away. In fact, we’ll probably see something along those lines during God’s Valley. Something could have finally made Whitebeard think of abandoning the crew. Maybe witnessing Xebec kill innocents or seeing how rotten and selfish everyone else is.
Whitebeard went to sea to get money for Sphinx. Money that it’s pretty explicit, was obtained in less than legit ways.
So that’s one thing, he’s not a hero.
He is, however, very prideful. There’s a whole big thing in the series about having pride as a pirate and as a man. Hiriluk’s flag, no wounds on the back, never harming a crewmate etc. The original Davy Back fight goes into this, with Zoro telling Chopper to man the fuck up when he starts crying about joining Foxy’s crew.
So yes, Whitebeard joining Rocks by Davy Back fight will mean he’ll stick with them even though he doesn’t like them. With Rocks he’s getting a shit ton of cash for Sphinx, so that’s the main goal. He’s also too proud to have people say “Whitebeard lost a Davy Back and ran away.”
As for the idea that it was only at God’s Valley that the scales dropped from Whitebeard’s eyes after and he suddenly realised that the rest of the crew were not loveable rogues, that’s just laughable. What, he sailed for years and he somehow never managed to notice what they were like?
Sengoku told us way back when Rocks was first properly explained what they were. They were a crew that never really liked each other and fought among themselves. Whitebeard said he had bad experiences with the crew. We then see the crew, and they don’t especially get on with each other, and Rocks only got them to join with Davy Back fights.
But now we’re meant to ignore all that we have seen and read and think they were all bosom buddies that Whitebeard thought of as family?
You guys are so desperate to turn Rocks into a hero that you’re missing everything that’s actually interesting about him and his crew lmao.