Reborn

Throughout Heaven & Earth,I alone am d Honored One
What do you think would happen to your vision of the world if somehow I was able to convince you that the actual order was this one ?

Environment > Shapes the brain > That create thoughts > That enters our consciousness > That shape our behavior > That influence the Environment
What would happen to you if I tell you need to drop your habit of writing post to always have an upper hand?

We aren't isolated creatures. We live in social settings which forms part of our environment.

So, it's no rocket science that obviously it shapes our thoughts.

However, once these thoughts ingrained in our subconscious mind then even if you change environment they will persist.

"It's what you repeatedly think, is what you become "

I was discarding your version of actions.



Let me tell you something by taking your own example....


You have a habit of imposing your world view on others. You think only your version is right version.

Sometimes you even come across as condescending.



On surface level, people will say you are controlling or authoritarian or ego maniac.



But deep down, this behaviour of yours stem from childhood experiences which got ingrained in your subconscious mind.


You perhaps felt "Invisible" or "lack of respect" or "lack of control over your life". It comes from unmet need of validation, respect and fear of not enough.

You can argue social setting or environment made you like that. But, even if environment changes, you are so wired now because of repeating thoughts pattern and subconscious mind, that you will still act like that even if environment changed.



It's ultimately we who have to take control of our mind regardless of the environment.
 
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I said the word “pedophiles” regarding the general state of conservatives, and he apparently took offense for reasons only he can explain…I still have him on ignore, so I won’t know if he does :wellwell:
I tried ignoring people for a time.. never worked. Too addicted to notifications




What would happen to you if I tell you need to drop your habit of writing post to always have an upper hand?
Not much since I would keep doing it.
:catsure:


Let me tell you something by taking your own example....


You have a habit of imposing your world view on others. You think only your version is right version.

Sometimes you even come across as condescending.



On surface level, people will say you are controlling or authoritarian or ego maniac.



But deep down, this behaviour of yours stem from childhood experiences which got ingrained in your subconscious mind.


You perhaps felt "Invisible" or "lack of respect" or "lack of control over your life". It comes from unmeet need of validation, respect and not being enough.

You can argue social setting or environment made you like that. But, even if environment changes, you are so wired now because of subconscious mind, that you will still act like that even if environment changed.
Annd.. you missed.

I was not always like that. In fact, before my majority, I didn't like to debate stuff. I was a silent man, even a closed off man.

It's when my conditions of existence changed, when I became a studient, living on my own, that I started to change. Open up a little, learn about the world.. that I started to talk about what I knew and what I dreamed of. And nothing was repressed before that, I was just different. My environement made me change, but you know what ?

It was nothing compared to what was about to change!

Let me tell you a story.
(and well.. it's time for a real oversharing moment)

15 years ago, before my condition, I was a ball of energy. But my empathy? I had very little of it. Of course I loved, I cried, I screamed, I laughed. but it was faint, it was the bare minimum. Some childhoold trauma had left me with scars. I had wishes of course, but no rationnality, no awarenes.

I had crazy dreams, strange thoughts patterns, I was obsessive indeed, just like I'm today, but where it was not a problem before, this new unfamiliar environment started a chain reaction.. And made me detach myself from others, I felt... desynchronized.

It was not that I didn't accept my life, but I didn't like the way I was, I didn't like the way I talked, the way I lived.. even if I was more open, I started to feel empty, more aware of myself, more aware of my environement but strangely feeling like living in a parrallel dimension.

One day, the pressure of my insecurities and the sudden awereness that I was not prepared for this world, that I was not who I wanted to be.. hit me like a train in the face. This build up made me feel like a baby left in the jungle. This little realization alone, and my lack of defense mechanism, put me in a state of derealization.

If you don't know what derealizations are, google it.

The dererealizations were not the product of some deep subconscious toughts, but the product of my lack of awereness of the world mixed with my lack of self esteem, mixed with the violence I foresaw, the danger I felt from my environement and future and the panic following the fear of losing everything I hold dear, family, dreams, everything. It was not rational, but it is how my mind interpreted this situation.

At the same time, a breakup happened that left me in despair.

So I closed myself off, locked myself away, in the fear of losing myself. In the fear of the world itself. This situation on top of the derealizations, created an isolation. My isolation created social pressures and at the same time, the complete lack of it. This isolation created depression, this depression created more isolation.

Alone but always watched over by closed one, I observed the world silently grow without me for many years.. This condition changed my entire vision of life. When, like you, I thought that I was capable of anything just because of mind conditionning.. suddenly this thought became a myth for me. No amount of conditionning was able to force myself away from my own conditions of existence. I couldn't move, I couldn't work, I couldn't sleep, I couldn't dream. I could only stay in front of my screen like a ghost.

I started to deradicalize.. from conspirationnism, Liberalism, and idealism. I started to humble myself.. to listen to people living the same isolation, then I started to listen to others, women, ratialized people, LGBTQI+, poor people.. I became more empathetic, I became much more angry and much more aware of the world. I started to debate, to search for solutions, to try to prevent people from falling into the same traps as mine. I felt even more in love with storytelling, I started to learn more, I humbled myself to degree you can't even imagine, I rebuilded my entire knowledge system. I'm kept the best part of me, and became an entirely new person.

Until COVID, where.. for a time, the entire world suddenly synchronized with my life.

This simple thing, this simple change in the material condition of existence of the ENTIRE world, completely changed the relationship I had with my entire environment. The realization that isolation was not a conscious descision hit the minds and bodies of my closed circle.

I felt understood.

Their mindset changed, their look changed, their words became kinder, my words became more relaxed and this allowed us to reach hands toward eachothers. This special planet alignment.. gave me enough strenght to seek help. This is what allowed me to move away again. TO be on my own, but less afraid, less alone, more empathetic, more opened but much more angry at the world.

Then.. one day.. I realized that I wasted too much time, what I wanted to do, was not possible anymore, at least not in the same shape. This realization almost killed me. But once again, I wasn't alone. It's my environment that allowed me to keep going.

Now, nobody can help me anymore, people have sacrified too much. I'm on my own. I still afraid, I'm poor, I'm handicaped, my situation is pushing health problem on me.. but I'm not lost anymore. And my will has never been stronger.

As you can see. The mind is but a product of our material conditions of existence.

If you can allow yourself to condition yourself to repeat enough thoughts to the point where you can change behaviors.. it's because the environment will push you to do that without restrains, and it is also the environement that will shape when and where you will start to see the changes

We are human. We are not pure thoughts in a vacuum. Our material condition of existences preceeds our actions and behaviors and our behaviors will forge them back to influence us once again. It's a cycle indeed, but a cycle where our agency is limited by very specific parameters. (if it even exist at all). No matter how many times you make yourself believe you are in control of your life and success, only your material conditions of existence will have the last words.

This is why people can't become rich out of the wits of their minds and why rich people will probably never understand why meritocracy is not real.. unless we make them understand ourselves.
 
I tried ignoring people for a time.. never worked. Too addicted to notifications





Not much since I would keep doing it.
:catsure:



Annd.. you missed.

I was not always like that. In fact, before my majority, I didn't like to debate stuff. I was a silent man, even a closed off man.

It's when my conditions of existence changed, when I became a studient, living on my own, that I started to change. Open up a little, learn about the world.. that I started to talk about what I knew and what I dreamed of. And nothing was repressed before that, I was just different. My environement made me change, but you know what ?

It was nothing compared to what was about to change!

Let me tell you a story. (and well.. it's time for a real oversharing moment)

15 years ago, before my condition, I was a ball of energy. But my empathy? I had very little of it. Of course I loved, I cried, I screamed, I laughed. but it was faint, it was the bare minimum. Some childhoold trauma had left me with scars. I had wishes of course, but no rationnality, no awarenes.

I had crazy dreams, strange thoughts patterns, I was obsessive indeed, just like I'm today, but where it was not a problem before, this new unfamiliar environment started a chain reaction.. And made me detach myself from others, I felt... desynchronized.

It was not that I didn't accept my life, but I didn't like the way I was, I didn't like the way I talked, the way I lived.. even if I was more open, I started to feel empty, more aware of myself, more aware of my environement but strangely feeling like living in a parrallel dimension.

One day, the pressure of my insecurities and the sudden awereness that I was not prepared for this world, that I was not who I wanted to be.. hit me like a train in the face. This build up made me feel like a baby left in the jungle. This little realization alone, and my lack of defense mechanism, put me in a state of derealization.

If you don't know what derealizations are, google it.

The dererealizations were not the product of some deep subconscious toughts, but the product of my lack of awereness of the world mixed with my lack of self esteem, mixed with the violence I foresaw, the danger I felt from my environement and future and the panic following the fear of losing everything I hold dear, family, dreams, everything. It was not rational, but it is how my mind interpreted this situation.

At the same time, a breakup happened that left me in despair.

So I closed myself off, locked myself away, in the fear of losing myself. In the fear of the world itself. This situation on top of the derealizations, created an isolation. My isolation created social pressures and at the same time, the complete lack of it. This isolation created depression, this depression created more isolation.

Alone but always watched over by closed one, I observed the world silently grow without me for many years.. This condition changed my entire vision of life. When, like you, I thought that I was capable of anything just because of mind conditionning.. suddenly this thought became a myth for me. No amount of conditionning was able to force myself away from my own conditions of existence. I couldn't move, I couldn't work, I couldn't sleep, I couldn't dream. I could only stay in front of my screen like a ghost.

I started to deradicalize.. from conspirationnism, Liberalism, and idealism. I started to humble myself.. to listen to people living the same isolation, then I started to listen to others, women, ratialized people, LGBTQI+, poor people.. I became more empathetic, I became much more angry and much more aware of the world. I started to debate, to search for solutions, to try to prevent people from falling into the same traps as mine. I felt even more in love with storytelling, I started to learn more, I humbled myself to degree you can't even imagine, I rebuilded my entire knowledge system. I'm kept the best part of me, and became an entirely new person.

Until COVID, where.. for a time, the entire world suddenly synchronized with my life.

This simple thing, this simple change in the material condition of existence of the ENTIRE world, completely changed the relationship I had with my entire environment. The realization that isolation was not a conscious descision hit the minds and bodies of my closed circle.

I felt understood.

Their mindset changed, their look changed, their words became kinder, my words became more relaxed and this allowed us to reach hands toward eachothers. This special planet alignment.. gave me enough strenght to seek help. This is what allowed me to move away again. TO be on my own, but less afraid, less alone, more empathetic, more opened but much more angry at the world.

Then.. one day.. I realized that I wasted too much time, what I wanted to do, was not possible anymore, at least not in the same shape. This realization almost killed me. But once again, I wasn't alone. It's my environment that allowed me to keep going.

Now, nobody can help me anymore, people have sacrified too much. I'm on my own. I still afraid, I'm poor, I'm handicaped, my situation is pushing health problem on me.. but I'm not lost anymore. And my will has never been stronger.

As you can see. The mind is but a product of our material conditions of existence.

If you can allow yourself to condition yourself to repeat enough thoughts to the point where you can change behaviors.. it's because the environment will push you to do that without restrains, and it is also the environement that will shape when and where you will start to see the changes

We are human. We are not pure thoughts in a vacuum. Our material condition of existences preceeds our actions and behaviors and our behaviors will forge them back to influence us once again. It's a cycle indeed, but a cycle where our agency is limited by very specific parameters. (if it even exist at all). No matter how many times you make yourself believe you are in control of your life and success, only your material conditions of existence will have the last words.

This is why people can't become rich out of the wits of their minds and why rich people will probably never understand why meritocracy is not real.. unless we make them understand ourselves.
you need therapy
that's not an insult because I do too
but you just need it
 

Jew D. Boy

I Can Go Lower
I SHOULD put that dude on ignore, but he's too funny for me to do that
Same reason I never blocked Logiko despite him having the biggest ego on here
I was always willing to entertain his bigotry because it’s fun to call him out, but after he posted that fucking Bible verse yesterday in the same breath as vilifying the left even after I proved him wrong about far-right gunmen outstripping their counterparts, I just had enough…it’s been fun watching everyone dunk on him since then, even if it looks to me like they’re just responding to nothing :milaugh:
 
you need therapy
that's not an insult because I do too
but you just need it
lmao.
You know.. telling me that you need it too.. doesn't negate the violence of telling me that I need therapy

:ohreally:

I had therapy already lol. It helped me, it can't help me more than that. This is no what I need I the moment. For the moment, I need money and security.


What is funny, is that I'm one of the few who is aware of my own behavior here.. My ego is indeed massive but that and my big texts are not the problem.

:Egg_Peak:

You need to look within, just like I did
 
lmao.
You know.. telling me that you need it too.. doesn't negate the violence of telling me that I need therapy

:ohreally:

I had therapy already lol. It helped me, it can't help me more than that. This is no what I need I the moment. For the moment, I need money and security.



What is funny, is that I'm one of the few who actually know how much a of a pain in the ass I am here lol. My ego or my big text are not the problem.

:Egg_Peak:

You need to look within, just like I did
One: It's still not an insult. I really do think you just need the therapy.
Two: Knowing you're egotistical and not doing anything about it is arguably worse than being oblivious to it.
 
"the violence of telling me that I need therapy"
Do you know how many time I heared that in the last 10 years ? A little hint : there are more than 2 zero in the number. You don't even have a beginning of understanding of what ableism really is or look like.


As a reminder:

Just today, two persons told me that I needed to go to therapy, one person told me that I was a retard. I faced a few insults. A LOT of laughs and many dehumanizations.

And yet.. because I have a big ego and I tell people "let me explain this for you" in a slightly patronizing way.. I'm the one who has a problem of introspection ?

:snoopy:

Guy... come on. If you could see, from my point of view, the level of your denial combined to the level of your disrespected I faced both on a political, and personnal level on this thread. You would be AMAZED about how much I prevented myself from being a straight up insult machine here.

:carrocorn:

I have a big ego, that right. And big obsessions, that's also right. But I'm also one of the few who keeps coming at you snarky pirates to find solutions in order for everyone here to stop insulting everyone else.

So, in the game of who is the most self aware. I already won. And you guys are still running.

:catsure:
 
Do you know how many time I heared that in the last 10 years ? A little hint : there are more than 2 zero in the number. You don't even have a beginning of understanding of what ableism really is or look like.


As a reminder:

Just today, two persons told me that I needed to go to therapy, one person told me that I was a retard. I faced a few insults. A LOT of laughs and many dehumanizations.

And yet.. because I have a big ego and I tell people "let me explain this for you" in a slightly patronizing way.. I'm the one who has a problem of introspection ?

:snoopy:

Guy... come on. If you could see, from my point of view, the level of your denial combined to the level of your disrespected I faced both on a political, and personnal level on this thread. You would be AMAZED about how much I prevented myself from being a straight up insult machine here.

:carrocorn:

I have a big ego, that right. And big obsessions, that's also right. But I'm also one of the few who keeps coming at you snarky pirates to find solutions in order for everyone here to stop insulting everyone else.

So, in the game of who is the most self aware. I already won. And you guys are still running.

:catsure:
I mean if someone tells you something so many times it's probably because it's true
I doubt so many people just want to bully you for the fun of it
 
I mean if someone tells you something so many times it's probably because it's true
I doubt so many people just want to bully you for the fun of it
It is an illusion to believe that majorities equates to rightfullness.

My ego, is the moon in front of the delusion of this thread, it's the tool people uses to prevent any types of self-questionning. If it wasn't big, people would attack another part me or someone else. Simply because the problem has nothing to do with me or my oversharing.

I have a lot of defects... and I know you don't believe me, but if all people in this forum had questionned their own behavior and value in the last 3 years as many time as I questionned and changed mine... this place would be an anarchist and a communist stronghold full of marginalized One Piece fans of all genders.

But it's not happening anytime soon, isn't it?

:yurazclear:
 
I have a lot of defects... and I know you don't believe me, but if all people in this forum had questionned their own behavior and value in the last 3 years as many time as I questionned and changed mine... this place would be an anarchist and a communist stronghold full of marginalized One Piece fans of all genders.

Anyway you're a very mentally exhausting guy to argue with and I want to go to bed so I'll just let you have this one.
 
I don't know this man, but his argument here is solid.

Asking for freedom of speech is an idealism. The power is diffuse. We have freedom of speech already in most country, but words have consequences and people are unpredictible.
indeed, he's an Islamic academic , but yea it is an out of the box intellectual take about the matter.

of course him being a Muslim means you'll find that he opposes liberalism but if you wanna know islam politically, theologically ,morally , even philosophically, and how it interacts with liberalism and leftist ideologies and seem him bully far right bigotry , just to know how we perceive such matters I think he's a go to individual for it for the sake of understanding and research if you do that.
 
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