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its funny how people say Oda does not care about Powerscaling while Oda has clear set rules he follows in any fight ever or clear cut statments that are 100% facts. like when Oda thinks 2 people are equal but 1 has to win there is always a reson why thats the case he then makes a in story reson why that person lost there. the problem with people overall is that they seem to ignore the most basic staments Oda makes in the story for children because it does not fit they agenda.

Roger strongest oponent is Rocks, Roger is equal to Garp and Whitbeard, meaning Rocks>Roger,Whitbeard,Garp. now watch my amazing prediction with just 3 infos we got in the story... Rocks will not die because of Roger or Garp (solo), he will die either by backstab, Imu or 2v1. this statment is factual and you can screenshot this, its facts.

now simple Powerscaling with staments of this gen Mihawk>Shanks,Garling,Shamrock,Nusjuro 1 simple statment makes for easy Powerscaling. Shanks>Kaido based on Rayleigh statment "you cant train your Coc, Coc grows together with the person itself" meaning the stronger coc you have= the stronger YOU ARE. showing that again basic Powerscaling Joy Boy>Shanks>Luffy/Kaido.
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So someone with the raw punching power of prime Garp couldn't knock out the weakened and badly injured old man Garp?
He even amped his raw punching power of prime Garp with his Devil Fruit.

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Aokiji looks as washed up as he took a beating by Garp while holding back. And while a stab to the abdomen wears your endurance down, it won't nerf your attacks in the short run. We usually have people pulling off their strongest move at 1HP.
 
He’s not. Shanks may be a wannabe Roger, but he’s not him. He’s not near as strong nor is he the king.
Yeah, even though I don't think after EH the "near as strong" remains.

Anyway, even Roger believe Shanks was the one.

Koby Is even more Shanks, since he even has the same nickname and so on.

And Oda paralleled Ace with Whitebeard directly. When Luffy and Roger said the secret dream oda made clbelievesallels
Maybe, but then there would plenty of parallels about single things.

Anyway, could be.
 
Unfortunately Aokiji was already prime Garp level with literally zero fruit usage at all:
A prime Garp level+ devil fruit with a clean, free punch couldn't knock out the weakened, seriously injured, holding back, far from his prime 78-year-old Garp who was sweating liters of blood...
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And then the prime Garp level was blitzed like a mosquito by the old Garp with several nerfs on him just using basic CoA and 0 named attacks.
 
Sommers feels more like a Robin opponent. Oda seems like he’s been setting her up to finally be able to “beat him” (probably just BFR or trap him).

And Killingham is a very clear Usopp opponent.

Oda made sure to hype Dory and Brogy above them and Zoro and Sanji will always fight the two strongest subordinates
You’re setting yourself up brother Yasheen

Sommers and Killingham are the future. Open your mind

Also how did he hype them over the Holy Knights

Dorry and Brogy are really strong but they haven’t done much yet

Sommers was humiliated twice, I can see why some Sanji fans don't want to see Sanji fight Sommers unless Sanji low diffs him.:kobeha:
Powerscaling wise it might be a letdown but narratively I think a matchup between Sanji and Sommers would be fun

Sanji cooking him after all the pain he’s caused (and with his ability directly interacting with love as an emotion) would be great

Dunno how Oda would make things work with Kilingham and Zoro but he has a cool trident thing so that fits as far as Zoro opponents go
 
Aokiji looks as washed up as he took a beating by Garp while holding back. And while a stab to the abdomen wears your endurance down, it won't nerf your attacks in the short run. We usually have people pulling off their strongest move at 1HP.
People being nerfed by wounds was never a thing beside maybe early One Piece, people always us they strongest atatck at 1hp. so yeh I think People trying to downscale Kuzan based on it makes no sense
 
You’re setting yourself up brother Yasheen

Sommers and Killingham are the future. Open your mind

Also how did he hype them over the Holy Knights

Dorry and Brogy are really strong but they haven’t done much yet



Powerscaling wise it might be a letdown but narratively I think a matchup between Sanji and Sommers would be fun

Sanji cooking him after all the pain he’s caused (and with his ability directly interacting with love as an emotion) would be great

Dunno how Oda would make things work with Kilingham and Zoro but he has a cool trident thing so that fits as far as Zoro opponents go
Sommers won't get a full fight. Oda isn't even trying to sell him as a threat; he's a villain closer to Jack and Lucci than Queen or King. The kind of fight he'd get would be something along the lines of Zoro vs. Lucci, where everything happens offscreen and ends in two pages.
 
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