Role Madness One Piece Mash 2.0
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likewise, while i have u here can u share insights on why u hard protown as cult, in our chat i made many remarks towards trying to keep u guys alive longer as our main motive was to kill town. i thought u were town because i didnt think anyone wud cult melkor slot night 1
i forgot that we busdrove melkor with naomi and it only occurred to me after we killed u
in the night rednight died we actually tried to move frinckles away from rednight and tried to give rednight the ability to cult one more player but yoho got roleblocked (presumably by rednight's active reflexive roleblock ability)
in our mind we wanted the cult to grow cuz our ultimate goal was destroy town, then we'll sort out the cult later
im surprised nibel was 2 shots only, but considering that many of the town roles had kills i think him culting multiple of them wuda been a disaster
i forgot that we busdrove melkor with naomi and it only occurred to me after we killed u
in the night rednight died we actually tried to move frinckles away from rednight and tried to give rednight the ability to cult one more player but yoho got roleblocked (presumably by rednight's active reflexive roleblock ability)
in our mind we wanted the cult to grow cuz our ultimate goal was destroy town, then we'll sort out the cult later
im surprised nibel was 2 shots only, but considering that many of the town roles had kills i think him culting multiple of them wuda been a disaster
to help put michelle's vig point in perspective we caused only 4 kills the whole game. there were alot of mechanics in play to cuck our redirection on the vig/cult, like reflexive roleblocks and superkills most notably.
from our 4 kills:
2 of them were players that were previously revived (flower, poalr)
1 of them lynch redirect (ratchet)
1 of them cult (luigi)
town killed 9 townies and 1 cult leader
from our 4 kills:
2 of them were players that were previously revived (flower, poalr)
1 of them lynch redirect (ratchet)
1 of them cult (luigi)
town killed 9 townies and 1 cult leader
It was a joy to play again, like usual. Town me recognised town Melkor D1 but Eod wasn't active enough for a switch. I was sure you were town but also being converted I only could try to pocket you ^^
Delightful PRs I forgot @Charlie, your choices brought a fresh air to the game, each one of them was really fun!
Delightful PRs I forgot @Charlie, your choices brought a fresh air to the game, each one of them was really fun!
As cult the biggest threat to us was being picked off at night by wolves.
Therefore, it is in the cult's legitimate interest to root out wolves and keep townies alive so we can cult them, as our win condition requires us to be alive and recruiting for that to work.
Cult is just an annoying version of being town that doesn't win with unculted townies, which is why cults kinda suck. But you play them as anti mafia pro town always.
One time, I was mafia, and I offered to the town side, my reveal as mafia, combined with working to eliminate cultists with our powers.
As long as town left me alive, I was someone who couldnt be corrupted by the cult, a natural ally to any townie who wants to fight for a TOWN win condition.
ME and my mafia team crushed that cult and one of us or town won the game, obviously only one, but we had fun destroying that stupid cult together. Because cults suck. That flew, town would rather side with mafia than cult, legit. Cults are haaaated where I come from.
Cults are not fun. If you mark games as cult on signup people wont join them.
However, that objection aside, cult and mafia are natural enemies.
mafia can murder cult, and cult cant convert mafia.
Ergo, cult will side with town to destroy mafia during day. That's logical.
Combine that with the fact that if I'm ever not town, odds are above 90 percent I side with town anyway.
So I am the most anti mafia cultist ever. As soon as I joined the game and learned there was mafia, and I wasn't mafia, that's good enough to make me decide to want to kill mafia.
I have rare exceptions of siding with mafia as nontown.
One time I was a neutral survivor and claimed it, and town were jerks about it and kept threatening to destroy me.
So I voted with the wolves and town lost, and we won together.
That could have been avoided with basic diplomacy toward a neutral. I naturally wanna kill mafia.
You gotta be a pretty big jerk to me to make me side with them, but, it's happened a few times out of like 30 times it could have ever happened. It's unlikely. Less than 10 percent chance, for sure.
Therefore, it is in the cult's legitimate interest to root out wolves and keep townies alive so we can cult them, as our win condition requires us to be alive and recruiting for that to work.
Cult is just an annoying version of being town that doesn't win with unculted townies, which is why cults kinda suck. But you play them as anti mafia pro town always.
One time, I was mafia, and I offered to the town side, my reveal as mafia, combined with working to eliminate cultists with our powers.
As long as town left me alive, I was someone who couldnt be corrupted by the cult, a natural ally to any townie who wants to fight for a TOWN win condition.
ME and my mafia team crushed that cult and one of us or town won the game, obviously only one, but we had fun destroying that stupid cult together. Because cults suck. That flew, town would rather side with mafia than cult, legit. Cults are haaaated where I come from.
Cults are not fun. If you mark games as cult on signup people wont join them.
However, that objection aside, cult and mafia are natural enemies.
mafia can murder cult, and cult cant convert mafia.
Ergo, cult will side with town to destroy mafia during day. That's logical.
Combine that with the fact that if I'm ever not town, odds are above 90 percent I side with town anyway.
So I am the most anti mafia cultist ever. As soon as I joined the game and learned there was mafia, and I wasn't mafia, that's good enough to make me decide to want to kill mafia.
One game, as serial killer, I murdered a mafia n1, dunked a mafia d3, avoided killing the outed town PRs, and took 2 bullets at night from the mafia, before dying.
And town won against the final mafioso because I sided with them so hard. I was the town MVP as SK. I never betrayed them. Ever.
I calculated that any final 4 situation would always lose for me because my SK murder also roleblocks, so if I murder the final mafia, it goes to final 3.
It would win if the final mafia managed to shoot a townie before dying, but my role didnt work that way.
Unfortunately, I'd always lose a final 3 because the town leader, who was mech clear, suspected I was the SK, correctly.
I wasnt going to shoot him and let the final mafia shoot me, just seems silly to betray an ally for no reason when it wouldnt even affect the outcome. The mafia also had it narrowed down to me and like 1 other guy and had already shot me, so I had to shoot them by force or I'd lose instantly since my vest was broken.
And town won against the final mafioso because I sided with them so hard. I was the town MVP as SK. I never betrayed them. Ever.
I calculated that any final 4 situation would always lose for me because my SK murder also roleblocks, so if I murder the final mafia, it goes to final 3.
It would win if the final mafia managed to shoot a townie before dying, but my role didnt work that way.
Unfortunately, I'd always lose a final 3 because the town leader, who was mech clear, suspected I was the SK, correctly.
I wasnt going to shoot him and let the final mafia shoot me, just seems silly to betray an ally for no reason when it wouldnt even affect the outcome. The mafia also had it narrowed down to me and like 1 other guy and had already shot me, so I had to shoot them by force or I'd lose instantly since my vest was broken.
I have rare exceptions of siding with mafia as nontown.
One time I was a neutral survivor and claimed it, and town were jerks about it and kept threatening to destroy me.
So I voted with the wolves and town lost, and we won together.
That could have been avoided with basic diplomacy toward a neutral. I naturally wanna kill mafia.
You gotta be a pretty big jerk to me to make me side with them, but, it's happened a few times out of like 30 times it could have ever happened. It's unlikely. Less than 10 percent chance, for sure.
It was a pleasure to meet u and I enjoy playing with u so much, please sign up for games here often!
You’ll probably see me every now and then on MU, finally going to try and get into the scene there in possible future preparations for champs next year tee hee
You’ll probably see me every now and then on MU, finally going to try and get into the scene there in possible future preparations for champs next year tee hee
I would love to play another game with you sometime.
But you can only grow your cult to 4 people max anyway and you need mislynches. Also if you don’t town side extremely hard mafia is unlikely to shoot you.
On this site the usual standard for multi ball for most people is that aggressive early crossfire is bad, especially for night kills. Originally before we agreed to let Yoho claim me as ability we were going to have me open scum so I could coordinate with cult and tell them we didn’t want a fight right now.
In mutliball early game I feel you only want the other side to be bleeding slightly more than you at any given time until town is sufficiently wounded. Then it’s war.
On this site the usual standard for multi ball for most people is that aggressive early crossfire is bad, especially for night kills. Originally before we agreed to let Yoho claim me as ability we were going to have me open scum so I could coordinate with cult and tell them we didn’t want a fight right now.
In mutliball early game I feel you only want the other side to be bleeding slightly more than you at any given time until town is sufficiently wounded. Then it’s war.
Its possible I dont understand the mechanics of a game or the site culture that much.
I just bring a big desire to kill mafia, combined a big desire not to get our cultists picked off by mafia.
So, I get your strategy perspective. For reference, I almost always win multiball games, so if I have bad habits theyve been reinforced quite a bit by that positive reinforcement.
I might have above an 80 percent winrate in those, so, I get there's other valid kinds of play, but me being a valuable ally has led to a lot of victories for my faction in multiball.
Im notorious for not breaking alliances, even if it loses, so, if i sided with town its unlikely that changes unless town is the primary reason we lose.
But, if Nibel had told me we were doing a pro scum ally with mafia deal, I'd have gone along with it.
team first, i respect that. Whatever my cult leader commands, praise cat christ.
I just bring a big desire to kill mafia, combined a big desire not to get our cultists picked off by mafia.
So, I get your strategy perspective. For reference, I almost always win multiball games, so if I have bad habits theyve been reinforced quite a bit by that positive reinforcement.
I might have above an 80 percent winrate in those, so, I get there's other valid kinds of play, but me being a valuable ally has led to a lot of victories for my faction in multiball.
Im notorious for not breaking alliances, even if it loses, so, if i sided with town its unlikely that changes unless town is the primary reason we lose.
But, if Nibel had told me we were doing a pro scum ally with mafia deal, I'd have gone along with it.
team first, i respect that. Whatever my cult leader commands, praise cat christ.
Not everyone plays that way here by any means lol. Just a fair many subscribe to that limited crossfire play as a strategy. Just hunt the other team as much as is needed to keep town off your own back while trying to get mislynches too.
I feel like it tends to be more optimal from experience because I’ve seen mafia 1 & mafia 2 (or whatever factions at play) rip reach other apart in a way that town didn’t have to do their jobs lol.
(Also I think many of us are just scummy mfers who would rather see another anti town faction win than see town win lol)
I feel like it tends to be more optimal from experience because I’ve seen mafia 1 & mafia 2 (or whatever factions at play) rip reach other apart in a way that town didn’t have to do their jobs lol.
(Also I think many of us are just scummy mfers who would rather see another anti town faction win than see town win lol)