Controversial General Political Discussion

[Blax Blah]

Either you didn't understand the original post or you seriously need to stop poking your nose.

My post was regarding what's happening across the world which is leading to the rise of rightist.


It has nothing to do with political theory....

For a change, start reading newspapers to see editorials on what's happening in the world

This is gaslighting because I was talking about your list of things the left is doing wrong, and I disagree with all of them except one, build organizations, but those organizations should be unions, not a party



I think you just watch right-wing videos about why the left sucks and you say that here



Political theory is what the left bases itself on so yeah it does have to do with political theory, look up websites like marxists.org, libcom, huge archives of leftist political theory

 

[Reborn]

This is gaslighting because I was talking about your list of things the left is doing wrong, and I disagree with all of them except one, build organizations, but those organizations should be unions, not a party



I think you just watch right-wing videos about why the left sucks and you say that here



Political theory is what the left bases itself on so yeah it does have to do with political theory, look up websites like marxists.org, libcom, huge archives of leftist political theory

And, they are doing those things.

And, I don't need to watch rightist videos. I read newspapers daily which features opinions from all sorts of people and then make my opinions.

And, it seems it's you who fed yourself Leftist echo chambers to fill your mind with.

So, go cry somewhere else.

And, if Logiko helped you then good for him and for you. Appreciate his help but....

Spare me this goat BS

 

[Blax Blah]

Like this quote:


"The Utopists won the battle. They proved that they were the really practical people, and that those who pretended to be practical were imbeciles.




And the only regret expressed now by all who know the Russian peasantry is, that too many concessions were made to those practical imbeciles and narrow-minded egotists: that the advice of the left wing of the unpractical camp was not followed in full. "



This is not a random quote online by some leftist in a speech, this is from the writing Are We Good Enough by Petr Kropotkin from 1888


https://libcom.org/article/are-we-good-enough-peter-kropotkin

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And, they are doing those things.

And, I don't need to watch rightist videos. I read newspapers daily which features opinions from all sorts of people and then make my opinions.

And, it seems it's you who fed yourself Leftist echo chambers to fill your mind with.

So, go cry somewhere else.

And, if Logiko helped you then good for him and for you. Appreciate his help but....

Spare me this goat BS

You're the one constantly crying about Logiko, I don't talk about disliking anyone and I don't talk about hating the right, you are just gaslighting

 

[Reborn]

Like this quote:


"The Utopists won the battle. They proved that they were the really practical people, and that those who pretended to be practical were imbeciles.




And the only regret expressed now by all who know the Russian peasantry is, that too many concessions were made to those practical imbeciles and narrow-minded egotists: that the advice of the left wing of the unpractical camp was not followed in full. "



This is not a random quote online by some leftist in a speech, this is from the writing Are We Good Enough by Petr Kropotkin from 1888

https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/petr-kropotkin-are-we-good-enough

Post automatically merged: Tuesday at 12:42 PM

You're the one constantly crying about Logiko, I don't talk about disliking anyone and I don't talk about hating the right, you are just gaslighting

So why you are having an issue if I am dismissing Logiko's opinion?


It's between me and Logiko

Why you have to butt in?

If you can't take anyone dismissing Logiko and your simping towards him, then put me on ignore.

 

[Blax Blah]

So why you are having an issue if I am dismissing Logiko's opinion?


It's between me and Logiko

Why you have to butt in?

If you can't take anyone dismissing Logiko and your simping towards him, then put me on ignore.

Well this is what I said at the beginning:


"You can tell Wogiko is the GOAT of this forum because right wingers keep hating on him the most and trying to dismiss him "

 

[Reborn]

Well this is what I said at the beginning:


"You can tell Wogiko is the GOAT of this forum because right wingers keep hating on him the most and trying to dismiss him "

And, you quoted me saying that because I got the notification of you quoting me.


So, don't try to act smart.

You can call him goat or wogiko or whatever you like... it's your business.

And, if I am dismissing his opinion then it's my buisness.

Don't poke your nose in mine as I don't do it in yours

 

[Blax Blah]

And, you quoted me saying that because I got the notification of you quoting me.


So, don't try to act smart.

You can call him goat or wogiko or whatever you like... it's your business.

And, if I am dismissing his opinion then it's my buisness.

Don't poke your nose in mine as I don't do it in yours

Yeah but you just happened to be the person doing it at the time

 

[Logiko]

And, this one is classic example why Left is losing the ground.

Bro spend too much time in his echo chambers and feeding on to the leftist narrative that he lost track of ground realities.

Go and read your daily dose of materialistic beliefs....

Yeah you are right, I can't understand what it means to struggle in life or to live in poverty, I forgot that the last decade of my life is just an illusion

I just haven't seen leftists here dislike Logiko and Nameless, Reborn, and Ravager and Herrera just hate on him, all right wingers

Well, to be fair, I fight a lot with Toby as I disagree with him a lot even tho I consider him an ally. But this is nothing compared to the hate coming from rightist here, you are right

there he is disliked for liking Carrot, it isn't the same thing

Also because I'm a pain in the ass to people who love to hate on One Piece

Second off,

Yeah I have a halo effect towards you it is what it is, but I'm aware of it so I'm pretty immune, and we disagree on a lot, like about God

Well. If you say so. But I don't know how to receive a compliment without undermining it.. I'm like Chopper in real life for real. I'm not even joking.

You people simply don't read the fucking newspapers it seems

This may be part of your problem here

I read newspapers daily which features opinions from all sorts of people

Listening to both side will make you only assimilate the most conservatist one.

This is a basic leftist principle. We are not perfect and not immune to biases. We are literally wired to assimilate the information that we agree with and the right (as a political spectrum) is MAINLY existing through this principle.

Leftism is, by defaut, a counter intuitive ideology in an idealist system.. So if you listen to "both sides" without critical thinking or political recoil, you will always have a greater chance to assimilate more the rightist rethoric than the leftist one.

Leftism is about understanding who we are as human and understanding the system that shape ou mind and ideology.

If you think you are better than you own material condition of existence and can override them on your own by the strenght of your spirit, you are nothing more than an idealist, which is fine aas long as you keep a big ethical process in your thinking, as idealists have a much greater chance to end up rightists and conservatist (and thus, harmfull) as I explained to Van earlier.

So, don't try to act smart.

You can call him goat or wogiko or whatever you like... it's your business.

Damn, I'm a trigger subject

 

[Reborn]

Yeah you are right, I can't understand what it means to struggle in life or to live in poverty, I forgot that the last decade of my life is just an illusion




Well, to be fair, I fight a lot with Toby as I disagree with him a lot even tho I consider him an ally. But this is nothing compared to the hate coming from rightist here, you are right





Also because I'm a pain in the ass to people who love to hate on One Piece





Well. If you say so. But I don't know how to receive a compliment without undermining it.. I'm like Chopper in real life for real. I'm not even joking.

This may be part of your problem here



Listening to both side will make you only assimilate the most conservatist one.

This is a basic leftist principle. We are not perfect and not immune to biases. We are literally wired to assimilate the information that we agree with and the right (as a political spectrum) is MAINLY existing through this principle.

Leftism is, by defaut, a counter intuitive ideology in an idealist system.. So if you listen to "both sides" without critical thinking or political recoil, you will always have a greater chance to assimilate more the rightist rethoric than the leftist one.

Leftism is about understanding who we are as human and understanding the system that shape ou mind and ideology.

If you think you are better than you own material condition of existence and can override them on your own by the strenght of your spirit, you are nothing more than an idealist, and idealist have a much greater chance to end up rightist and conservatist as I explained to Van earlier.



Damn, I'm a trigger subject

Nah I am good with reading newspapers. It helps me to know both sides and frame opinions in more constructive ways than just to stick with one frame of mind.

 

[Blax Blah]

Yeah you are right, I can't understand what it means to struggle in life or to live in poverty, I forgot that the last decade of my life is just an illusion




Well, to be fair, I fight a lot with Toby as I disagree with him a lot even tho I consider him an ally. But this is nothing compared to the hate coming from rightist here, you are right





Also because I'm a pain in the ass to people who love to hate on One Piece





Well. If you say so. But I don't know how to receive a compliment without undermining it.. I'm like Chopper in real life for real. I'm not even joking.

This may be part of your problem here



Listening to both side will make you only assimilate the most conservatist one.

This is a basic leftist principle. We are not perfect and not immune to biases. We are literally wired to assimilate the information that we agree with and the right (as a political spectrum) is MAINLY existing through this principle.

Leftism is, by defaut, a counter intuitive ideology in an idealist system.. So if you listen to "both sides" without critical thinking or political recoil, you will always have a greater chance to assimilate more the rightist rethoric than the leftist one.

Leftism is about understanding who we are as human and understanding the system that shape ou mind and ideology.

If you think you are better than you own material condition of existence and can override them on your own by the strenght of your spirit, you are nothing more than an idealist, which is fine aas long as you keep a big ethical process in your thinking, as idealists have a much greater chance to end up rightists and conservatist (and thus, harmfull) as I explained to Van earlier.



Damn, I'm a trigger subject

When I listen to right wing political videos I just keep debunking them as I'm hearing their arguments and that's not what I am looking for when I want to listen to something

 

[Logiko]

Nah I am good with reading newspapers. It helps me to know both sides and frame opinions in more constructive ways than just to stick with one frame of mind.

So you are doing exactly what I explained:

You think that you can protect yourself, on your own, without political awareness from reactionnary rethorics, just with the simple help of your own spirit and determination.

When I listen to right wing political videos I just keep debunking them as I'm hearing their arguments and that's not what I am looking for when I want to listen to something

Yes, but you have a political awereness and a good ethic basis that can protect you from the biases that comes with reactionnary rethorics. Which is cool.

People like Reborn, not so much.

 

[Reborn]

So you are doing exactly what I explained:

You think that you can protect yourself, on your own, without political awareness from reactionnary rethorics, just with the simple help of your own spirit and determination.



Yes, but you have a political awereness and a good ethic basis that can protect you from the biases that comes with reactionnary rethorics. Which is cool.

People like Reborn, not so much.

Sure whatever makes you sleep better at night

 

[Logiko]

Sure whatever makes you sleep better at night

 

[CoC: Color of Clowns]

Breaking news: the entire Press Pool for the Whitehouse has been disbanded for being critical of Trump.

Instead the new Press Pool will be a pool full of 12-year-olds, the kind of pool Trump feels comfortable in.

If Maxwell and Diddy actually both get pardoned... woof.

 

[Logiko]

Instead the new Press Pool will be a pool full of 12-year-olds, the kind of pool Trump feels comfortable in.

 

[CoC: Color of Clowns]

https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/1nzo29i
This is they way: mock them. All the censorship on social media about Israel/Trump memes mocking them? Taking down the statue with Trump and Epstein holding hands?

These bullies are GUTLESS, and the moment you push them back and call them "weird" like Walz did, they LOSE IT.

This is why I love Luffy as a character: he is truly what fascists hate most.

A clown laughing in their face, confirming they were always just a giant, bad joke to begin with, that got spread by way too many fools, the same way those fools spread kids.

All of the media censorship?

Crappy clowns like Trump can't even handle being laughed, at, LOL

The kind of special extra-thick Snowflakes that would melt in Antarctica if left out in the sun long enough.

Strong?

Lol, can't take a joke the same way they can't take the truth. They'll take peoples' kid, though, in the middle of the night.

When the people running World Governments are actually more spoiled, petty, and ignorant than the preppy girl cliques in middle school, oof.

 

[Reborn]

https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/1nzo29i
This is they way: mock them. All the censorship on social media about Israel/Trump memes mocking them? Taking down the statue with Trump and Epstein holding hands?

These bullies are GUTLESS, and the moment you push them back and call them "weird" like Walz did, they LOSE IT.

This is why I love Luffy as a character: he is truly what fascists hate most.

A clown laughing in their face, confirming they were always just a giant, bad joke to begin with, that got spread by way too many fools, the same way those fools spread kids.

All of the media censorship?

Crappy clowns like Trump can't even handle being laughed, at, LOL

The kind of special extra-thick Snowflakes that would melt in Antarctica if left out in the sun long enough.

Strong?

Lol, can't take a joke the same way they can't take the truth. They'll take peoples' kid, though, in the middle of the night.

When the people running World Governments are actually more spoiled, petty, and ignorant than the preppy girl cliques in middle school, oof.

Just curious

Why Bernie Sanders never got the real shot to fight the election from Democratic party in past 15 years? He seems like much better candidate than Hilary, Trump, Biden and Kamala

 

[CoC: Color of Clowns]

Just curious

Why Bernie Sanders never got the real shot to fight the election from Democratic party in past 15 years? He seems like much better candidate than Hilary, Trump, Biden and Kamala

They threatened him.

JFK's assassination was a warning to all US politicians that their lives are expendable. Hence the Trump shooting.

Kamala was good, but she didn't have the guts to fully call out the evils of the international and American powers. Neither did Walz.

Bernie's pretty much been the only one who has for decades. Since he's a 100% certified Jew, who actually tries to act like Christ, Bernie's able to get away with criticizing the Judeo-Christian terrorist elements in these governments more than most.

One person can't save this country.

Only a people can.

Bernie was the best candidate we had since... probably Ralph Nader.

When my parents were cool, they voted for Ralph Nader (Clown Edit: Whoops it was Ross Perot... LOL). Hehhhhhhhhhhh. My Mom's trying, tho, gotta give her flowers/a lot of credit, love ya, Mom (we're at the part of Egghead in the anime where Saturn stabs Vegapunk and Luffy goes back into Gear 5, God I was screaming at the useless Marines to cuff Luffy before he Gear 5'd, and she was laughing. Dorry and Brogy just showed up

I disagree with Ron Paul on a lot, but he would have been a legitimate president.

Ross Perot, also.

The system is designed to stop anyone who isn't controllable via blackmail from getting elected.

 

[AL sama]

I m happy Blax is finally somewhat behaving according to his true self like a human

 

[Logiko]

I m happy Blax is finally somewhat behaving according to his true self like a human

He always behaved like a human