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For a quick example, Bernie Sanders is center-left by US standards, and center by French standards.
Via defintion, core values, and historical context, I'm accurately a leftist. I could be lean more center in Europe. Any examples that does not require assumptions and personal standards to say otherwise?
I kind of agree that AL is rather progressive, and you could even say centrist if I'm being really generous yes, I agree.
It's the other point that made me wiggle
It's the other point that made me wiggle
I thought Bernie Sanders was lefty though. From what I know at least. Isn't being against trickle down economics left-wing ?
Where would Mamdani be ?
What are we talking about btw exactly ? A country's standards as a society OR politicians/senate/assembly ?
I believe these can be different even if the people supposedly directly vote for their representation.
In the US, the political system is rigged to a two party system. I'm sure you have a big chunk of lefties in the US but they won't be represented in Senate.
Where would Mamdani be ?
What are we talking about btw exactly ? A country's standards as a society OR politicians/senate/assembly ?
I believe these can be different even if the people supposedly directly vote for their representation.
In the US, the political system is rigged to a two party system. I'm sure you have a big chunk of lefties in the US but they won't be represented in Senate.
You are calling yourself whatever you want.
There are reasons why in term of core values and even historical but also sociological context why it's not the case just yet.
At least from the point of view of someone who is actually trying to fight the status co.
It took two years for Bernie to recognize the genocide...
Van is looking at the left/right spectrum in term of contextual political party.
I believe a worldwide, historical, archeological, sociological and of course materialist approach is much more relevant.
There are reasons why in term of core values and even historical but also sociological context why it's not the case just yet.
At least from the point of view of someone who is actually trying to fight the status co.
It took two years for Bernie to recognize the genocide...
Van is looking at the left/right spectrum in term of contextual political party.
I believe a worldwide, historical, archeological, sociological and of course materialist approach is much more relevant.
Bernie isn't anti-capitalist. He simply believes capitalism is too unregulated and needs to be reigned in. Trinkle down economics wasn't a thing until the 80s, and is simply heavily unregulated capitalism. Since the US is so far up the deep end in capitalism, basic humanitarianism seems radical.
So as usual, your own criteria that lacks any evidence.
So as usual, your own criteria that lacks any evidence.
I'm basing my point of view on scientific research but ok
I'd say more like a sos-dem centrist, a little bit on the right of Melenchonchon
I don't consider that guy a strong ally, but I'm ok with calling him a leftists. He actually tries to change this F-ing system.
This refusal to recognize the genocide is a massive red flag tho.
Pretty much yea, complete lack of out-group empathy, refusal to recognize your biases, refusal to even question yourself, dehumanizaing rethoric of marginalized, reactionnary rethoric etc.
A person that see the horrors of capitalism and the evidences that regulations do not negate said horrors... and says "nope, I still believe in regulation".. is not a direct ally to leftism. Class conscience and struggle is the basic necessity of leftism.
It's a question of who we choose to fight with and who we fight against.
That would be a good start to bridge the conversation.
Listen more to John Oliver. That's a fair advice I can give you.
I'd say more like a sos-dem centrist, a little bit on the right of Melenchonchon
I don't consider that guy a strong ally, but I'm ok with calling him a leftists. He actually tries to change this F-ing system.
This refusal to recognize the genocide is a massive red flag tho.
Pretty much yea, complete lack of out-group empathy, refusal to recognize your biases, refusal to even question yourself, dehumanizaing rethoric of marginalized, reactionnary rethoric etc.
A person that see the horrors of capitalism and the evidences that regulations do not negate said horrors... and says "nope, I still believe in regulation".. is not a direct ally to leftism. Class conscience and struggle is the basic necessity of leftism.
It's a question of who we choose to fight with and who we fight against.
That would be a good start to bridge the conversation.
Listen more to John Oliver. That's a fair advice I can give you.
@Logiko NFP was left wing despite having the sore losers from the PCF and the PS. Green party is lefty as in socdem and LFI is like whatever new constitution written by the people for a more democratic republic. I don’t see much socialism in there tbh. What does ancap even stand for in the end ? Ancap isn’t an ideology in itself, you need precise words and structured theories like certain kinds of socialism or whatever