Controversial General Political Discussion

[AL sama]

You made a general statement without any context. You said, and I quote, "Logiko is the goat of this forum because right wingers keep trying to hate on him the most and dismiss him."

Since once again, your comment didn't provide any context beyond what was stated, begged the question who counts as right wing, since Logiko's dismissal is forum wide and includes left wingers. For your comment to work, it has to assume every person who's ever dismissed him must be right wing.

It's ok if that wasn't what you meant, doesn't matter if you did, but you have to aware of what you're comment blatantly implied. Sensing some hostility from everyone involved in this comment chain.

let it be he won't understand

you're a leftist I m a centrist and we both dismiss Logiko on countless things

 

[Logiko]

He's actually fucking gaining followers. We gotta trick him into getting perma banned before its too late

I don't think so. I think some people are simply trying to find more positivity here..

The one who really did the job is Blax. It's because he arrived that I changed my strategy and became much less conflictual.

 

[Mathias]

> This forum when some people actually like and support each other and don't blindly hate one another and fight only.

But then again I should stop before Sakazouki insists Logiko and Blax are my boyfriends too, I'm gonna get a harem at this rate.

One more word and you'll only be allowed to post in "One Piece Battledome"

Spoiler

Harem aren't what you think btw

 

[Logiko]

you're a leftist I m a centrist

 

[Uncle Van]

let it be he won't understand

you're a leftist I m a centrist and we both dismiss Logiko on countless things

By definition yes, but what the words actually mean are irrelevant of course

I don't think so. I think some people are simply trying to find more positivity here..

The one who really did the job is Blax. It's because he arrived that I changed my strategy and became much less conflictual.

*whoosh*

 

[AL sama]

By definition yes, but what the words actually mean are irrelevant of course

 

[Logiko]

*whoosh*

 

[Mathias]

I don't know enough about Bengladesh political context. Even if globalization is strong, I don't think that we can compare the entire world to one political compass.

 

[Logiko]

I don't know enough about Bengladesh geographical context. Even if globalization is strong, I don't think that we can compare the entire world to one political compass.

I kind of agree that AL is rather progressive, and you could even say centrist if I'm being really generous yes, I agree.

It's the other point that made me wiggle

 

[AL sama]

I don't know enough about Bengladesh political context. Even if globalization is strong, I don't think that we can compare the entire world to one political compass.

well yeah in my country I'd be considered a leftist not even centrist

 

[Uncle Van]

I don't know enough about Bengladesh political context. Even if globalization is strong, I don't think that we can compare the entire world to one political compass.

For a quick example, Bernie Sanders is center-left by US standards, and center by French standards.

I kind of agree that AL is rather progressive, and you could even say centrist if I'm being really generous yes, I agree.

It's the other point that made me wiggle

Via defintion, core values, and historical context, I'm accurately a leftist. I could be lean more center in Europe. Any examples that does not require assumptions and personal standards to say otherwise?

 

[Mathias]

For a quick example, Bernie Sanders is center-left by US standards, and center by French standards.

I thought Bernie Sanders was lefty though. From what I know at least. Isn't being against trickle down economics left-wing ?

Where would Mamdani be ?

What are we talking about btw exactly ? A country's standards as a society OR politicians/senate/assembly ?

I believe these can be different even if the people supposedly directly vote for their representation.

In the US, the political system is rigged to a two party system. I'm sure you have a big chunk of lefties in the US but they won't be represented in Senate.

 

[Logiko]

Via defintion, core values, and historical context, I'm accurately a leftist. I could be lean more center in Europe. Any examples that does not require assumptions and personal standards to say otherwise?

You are calling yourself whatever you want.

There are reasons why in term of core values and even historical but also sociological context why it's not the case just yet.

At least from the point of view of someone who is actually trying to fight the status co.

I thought Bernie Sanders was lefty though. From what I know at least. Isn't being against trickle down economics left-wing ?

It took two years for Bernie to recognize the genocide...

Van is looking at the left/right spectrum in term of contextual political party.

I believe a worldwide, historical, archeological, sociological and of course materialist approach is much more relevant.

 

[Blax Blah]

Cowabunga
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Average leftist meme

 

[Uncle Van]

I thought Bernie Sanders was lefty though. From what I know at least. Isn't being against trickle down economics left-wing ?

Where would Mamdani be ?

What are we talking about btw exactly ? A country's standards as a society OR politicians/senate/assembly ?

I believe these can be different even if the people supposedly directly vote for their representation.

In the US, the political system is rigged to a two party system. I'm sure you have a big chunk of lefties in the US but they won't be represented in Senate.

Bernie isn't anti-capitalist. He simply believes capitalism is too unregulated and needs to be reigned in. Trinkle down economics wasn't a thing until the 80s, and is simply heavily unregulated capitalism. Since the US is so far up the deep end in capitalism, basic humanitarianism seems radical.

You are calling yourself whatever you want.

There are reasons why in term of core values and even historical but also sociological context why it's not the case just yet.

At least from the point of view of someone who is actually trying to fight the status co.


It took two years for Bernie to recognize the genocide...

Van is looking at the left/right spectrum in term of contextual political party.

I believe a worldwide, historical, archeological, sociological and of course materialist approach is much more relevant.

So as usual, your own criteria that lacks any evidence.

 

[RyoQ]

Al Sama, I fell out of my chair reading this!

Not only did I not say nor imply trans people aren't human, it is not even my belief. Christianity teaches trans individuals are fully human, they are made in God's image and are owed their own dignity, although their dysphoria should not be entertained.

I politely ask that this warning be rescinded.
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King of semantics goes to...

what do you think? @AL sama

 

[Mathias]

It took two years for Bernie to recognize the genocide...

Van is looking at the left/right spectrum in term of contextual political party.

I believe a worldwide, historical, archeological, sociological and of course materialist approach is much more relevant.

I didn't even know that Bernie had recognized the genocide.
But then what ? He became left-wing after two years ?

Bernie isn't anti-capitalist. He simply believes capitalism is too unregulated and needs to be reigned in. Trinkle down economics wasn't a thing until the 80s, and is simply heavily unregulated capitalism. Since the US is so far up the deep end in capitalism, basic humanitarianism seems radical

I know all this but you don’t need to be ancap to be lefty. Regulating capitalism is the plan of many left wing parties.

 

[RyoQ]

He's actually fucking gaining followers. We gotta trick him into getting perma banned before its too late

That's why you guys need me here. I am the anti Logiko. Lol

 

[Blax Blah]

That's why you guys need me here. I am the anti Logiko. Lol

I hope we get to discuss capitalism and you become a leftist

 

[RyoQ]

I hope we get to discuss capitalism and you become a leftist

No, leftism is scum. I may even oppose capitalism and I would still be right wing lmfao