General & Others IMU vs THE ENTIRE WORLD GOVERNMENT

[MonsterKaido]

1. He doesn't need ranged attacks to fight law. Mingo was beating mostly in cqc and stayed close to law so law couldn't set up in tricks. Smoker was beating law mainly in cqc and wasn't using ranged attacks much. The key to stopping law is being good enough to beat him in cqc without letting him get his kit off. Most of what Mingo did vergo could do if he had fought that way. He could force law into cqc like Mingo did, he can physically overpower law like Mingo did, he knows all law's tricks like Mingo does, and he can deal with law's teleporting by being fast enough to react to it. Literally the difference is vergo just went at law not caring if law hit him while Mingo fought law cautiously and actively didn't let law hit him with anything.

2. I asked how Mingo will land parasite. When he got luffy in it luffy could barely move. The only time parasite has ever worked is when a character is distracted or stationary. Mingo has never just pulled out parasite and immediately trapped someone in it. He didn't just immediately use on law and luffy because it wouldn't have worked.

3. The entire point with vergo powering up and Mingo hyping him was that in the past law couldn't do anything to vergo when he did it before. Vergo just charged at law and didn't care if law hit him because he didn't think law's moves would work on him. It wasn't about blitzing he was going to torture law. His goal wasn't to just beat law but punish and humiliate him like he did in the past. You just keep making stuff uplike law somehow blitzing vergo then vergo trying to blitz law. If Mingo did what vergo did he'd be neg diff. Vergo can fight how smoker and Mingo did where both were winning because of the physical difference and being better at cqc than law. This entire law point is you just not understanding the fight. Just cuz law neg diff vergo doesn't mean Mingo can. Law could because his df allows those types of 1 shot attacks while mingos doesn't.

--Bolded - Mingo =/= Vergo. Mingo was using his DF to dodge law's attacks.
--Vergo will need mingo's DF to do same things doffy did.

--All mingo has to do is use awakening to hold vergo and land his parasite.

--No. Doffy thought vergo's haki will negate law's hax which failed. Vergo only was doing good against law when he had law's heart. Plain and simple. Doffy thought wrong and law had became strong enough to neg vergo with his heart.

 

[Robin swan]

Vergo is not relevant to this thread guys.

He's relevant as the premise of the thread is wrong. The op listed Mingo crew as a point that villain leaders can solo thier crews to say imu can the entire wg. A big reason Mingo can't is vergo I mentioned pika and the rest of mingo's crew.

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--Bolded - Mingo =/= Vergo. Mingo was using his DF to dodge law's attacks.
--Vergo will need mingo's DF to do same things doffy did.

--All mingo has to do is use awakening to hold vergo and land his parasite.

--No. Doffy thought vergo's haki will negate law's hax which failed. Vergo only was doing good against law when he had law's heart. Plain and simple. Doffy thought wrong and law had became strong enough to neg vergo with his heart.

1. Mingo was toying with law and could easily dodge his attacks on multiple occasions he was literally holding law like a rag doll. Mingo didn't need his df to dodge law. Vergo doesn't need Mingo df to dodge law all he needs is to use his bamboo to stop Law's sword or physically grab law and dodge any ranged attacks.

2. Again this is a team fight what is everyone else doing while Mingo is focused on vergo trying to trap him? Yea attacking Mingo and they know mingo's df would only need to cut the threads on vergos body to free him or anyone parasite used on. This isn't 1 v 1 1 ollowed by a 1 v 1 followed by a 1v1 till Mingo beat his whole crew. It's the entire crew attacking Mingo all at once which Mingo would lose.

3. Dude the point was vergo didn't care if law hit him because he thought it wouldn't work. If vergo knew law's attacks would would he would have blocked law's slash with his bamboo. Vergo wasn't trying to blitz law but torture and humiliate him. He didn't try to even attempt to stop law because he didn't think anything law had would work. If Mingo did the same thing vergo did he get neg diffed just like vergo. While if vergo fought like like Mingo did he'd overboard beat him. This isn't hard vergo only lost so bad because he underestimated law. Him losing neg diff doesn't show that gap between law and himself nor has in baring on fighting Mingo. Stop trying to use this as it's a terrible point. The character himself was glazing vergo but clearly that's showing Mingo could neg diff him because law did.

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

I was completely and utterly correct

 

[BoaHancocksHusband]

Oda has a power ranking pattern for EVERY MAJOR VILLAIN GROUP in the series.

Arlong can beat his whole crew alone. Crocodile can beat all of Baroque works alone. Enel can beat all of the priests. Lucci can beat all of CP-9. Moriah can beat all his crew. Doffy can beat all his crew. Big mom can beat all her crew. Kaido can beat all his crew.

This is the pattern from the start of the series to now. And the reason Oda does this is because he wants to make sure to tell the audience that Luffy winning matters more than EVERYONE ELSE winning.

As in the alliance beating the entire Beast pirates in Wano is cool, but if Luffy lost, that’s the end. Luffy losing to Kaido means that everything else the alliance did is a waste of time. Because Kaido is single-handedly more of a threat than his whole crew.

This is the pattern of the entire series and now we have arrived at the final boss. And the pattern will NOT change.

Imu will be stronger than THE ENTIRE WORLD GOVERNMENT COMBINED.

I mean the WHOLE Government. The Gorosei. The Holy knight. CP-0. The Fleet Admiral. Kong. Garp. Sengoku. The Admirals. The VAs. All of them, together, will all be weaker than Imu.

This isn’t even technically power creep since it’s just the same pattern as from the start of the series.

Again, the reason is the same. It’s so that Luffy can single-handedly outshine all his allies and crew. Luffy is the savior. What he does MUST outscale what everyone else does, COMBINED.

Big Mom being the exception.

her crew solos the verse if not for Crackers low IQ. (Not hiding his real body in Big Moms butt)

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

Big Mom being the exception.

her crew solos the verse if not for Crackers low IQ. (Not hiding his real body in Big Moms butt)

Perospero literally says that during her hunger rampage, there was nothing the entire family could do to stop her

one of the few times Oda has a character directly confirm this power hierarchy

 

[BoaHancocksHusband]

Perospero literally says that during her hunger rampage, there was nothing the entire family could do to stop her

one of the few times Oda has a character directly confirm this power hierarchy

Perospero was more worried about his own butt being perorerorin’d by big mom if she discovered the wedding cake was not real. Her crew negs her put her fatass in Hansel and Gretel or something Mont D’Or the goat lol.

 

[Konstantis]

Imu can take as the whole world as gauntlet to be honest

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

Imu can take as the whole world as gauntlet to be honest

If Nika has some natural counter to him then no

But Imu must be able to take everyone who works under him because that’s just how Oda sets these things up all the time

 

[Konstantis]

If Nika has some natural counter to him then no

But Imu must be able to take everyone who works under him because that’s just how Oda sets these things up all the time

Nika needs to find One Piece to be able to do something I guess

 

[kekaro]

It was always implied, and sometimes strictly shown, that the leader of the villain group can take down all his subordinates

This is like an ancient old take i dont know why the usual twerkers tweaking about it

And the twerkers are i meant are twerking everywhere, ironic