Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1164 Spoilers Discussion

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Why can't he be KotW without being PK? IMU is currently KotW without the One Piece treasure.

BB's combination of DFs will just become a danger nobody saw coming, which will allow BB to defeat & absorb IMU.

Meanwhile, Luffy's journey will get him the treasure, which will be used to stop BB.

King of Land vs King of Sea
Two Ds with similar yet opposite ideologies duking it out EOS, after the third outsider (IMU) has already been defeated by the side of the wronged Ds (Davies), who themselves need to be stopped before turning into something much worse--thus, by stopping this new, bigger threat, JB's will will also be fulfilled, bringing the world together as one.
 
Why cant be KotW without being PK? IMU is currently KotW without the One Piece treasure.
Because the entire point of this series is to take down the upper echelon of the WG which requires The One Piece and the Ancient Weapons to do it.

So yes, becoming King of the World without Pirate King fundamentally makes zero sense since Teach is actively also trying to become Pirate King.
 
Wait he's fighting him 1v1? I thought Xebec attacked them 1vs3 and tossed them all aside in one go, with WB being the only one to somewhat counter while getting tossed aside?

It's not bad, but at the end of the day he's still constantly being grouped with the other Yonkou instead of Roger and Garp. He's in a very awkward spot this entire flashback, he should have never been a part of this, he doesn't fit.
WB portrayal was doomed the moment it was revealed he was subordinate to Xebec in 957. What happened overall in this flashback was only inevitable judging by how this clown author treats subordinates. Pissleigh and Gabum also some others examples from this fb.
 
Because the entire point of this series is to take down the upper echelon of the WG which requires The One Piece and the Ancient Weapons to do it.

So yes, becoming King of the World without Pirate King fundamentally makes zero sense since Teach is actively also trying to become Pirate King.
Xebec showed us what happens if one tries to become king of the world without considering the One Piece: the guy saw Imu, made into the very heart of the WG's world conspiracy and could do absolutely nothing against it.

Or Whitebeard, the guy that said he'll save Ace isn't the all-seeing prophet some people think he is.
I mean Xebec was a retcon
He didn't have Xebec in mind when he wrote marineford
 
Am I missing smtg. Why are admiral and shiki fans celebrating like they won?

Have they forgotten an admiral got offscreen hypetooled by rookie Xebec and DIED to injuries sustained despite treatment? :milaugh:

Meanwhile BM and Kaido survive the encounter against Domi prime Xebec (at least 100x stronger than rookie Xebec) without any scars. On top of being nowhere near their prime. Even Primebeard got low-diffed here

Oda clearly outlining the diff between prime admirals and rookie yonkos with the way he puts em against Xebec

This the best exit that any god valley pirate could take, losing only to a demi-god tier as rookies. Nothing less for Waido and Winmum :steef:@park_min young @MonsterKaido @Philosoraptor @The DevilMaster @mly90 @Hanzo hattori @Jokerr @Jyg-Lyg @Levi @Blahmigooo @Blazing Lion @Shimotsuki Fenaker
I really doubt they were defeated — we just haven’t gotten an update on their condition yet. In the next chapter, they’ll be back on their feet again.
 
Because the entire point of this series is to take down the upper echelon of the WG which requires The One Piece and the Ancient Weapons to do it.

So yes, becoming King of the World without Pirate King fundamentally makes zero sense since Teach is actively also trying to become Pirate King.
BB has several plans in motion, not just a single one. If he can get a better combo with three DFs than he would with the OP, he'd take that chance and defeat IMU. He did the same with the Shichibukai position, wanting to use Luffy as an offer, then pivoting to Ace instead.

The point of the series is to free people. Single individuals at first, then islands, then the whole world.
The OP can still be used against the new head of the WG if this one turns to be Eldritch Teach.
 
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