Current Events Sanji vs King or Zoro vs King? Pros and cons.

[BangOO🍅]

Doffy even need parasite to stop diable jambe spectre.

 

[Kuruka]

so even though Luffy had 3 extreme diff fights to get to that level, all it takes is a raid suit and some unlogical powerscaling for Sanji to get to that level? Because it doesnt make any sense, it's like reading a book and then skipping 3 chapters and finishing the rest of the book.

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so even though Luffy had 3 extreme diff fights to get to that level, all it takes is a raid suit and some unlogical powerscaling for Sanji to get to that level?

You must have hated water 7 then

 

[ShadyOjiro]

When was it confirmed King is the strongest swordsman in Wano? King is not fire himself, he uses fire to just strengthen his attacks, just like Sanji. Oda has never put more importance to some members of the crew compared to others. Let me ask you, was Pica a swordsman? Was Mr. 1 a swordsman? Their forte was durability and Queen probably is the most durable person out there.
Zoro wanting to cut fire is not a bigger argument than Sanji’s and King’s extremely similar fighting style.

What Swordman thing you talk about?

Zoro fights the 2nd strongest character in the arcs nothing else if you are on board of Zoro defeating BM be my guest lol.

But if you doubt King is a confirmed swordman already btw

If can name a stronger swordman than King please mention it.



We barely know why King is called the wildfire so that's a big headcanon with you there.
According to oden flashback fire raged for days the castle , can sanji do that ?



MR1 was not durable if he fall the first moment Zoro learn to cut metal , Picca was just rock lmao.
So again what is this "must be a durable " enemy?

 

[LadyVados]

Zoro can cut fire against BM too (Prometheus) or Kaido (Boro Breath)

 

[Hedfi]

2. Vergo wasnt at full strength vs Sanji and was still cracking his leg while not taking any damage from his kicks
3. That 1 attack nearly left Sanji unconscious while doffy wasnt using any haki vs sanji (he commented that the kicks were strong)
4. Sanji has COO should have detected the attack
10. King >>>>>>> Oven, nor was it a extreme diff battle
15 Kanjuro is way weaker than Okiku and those ink arrows were a joke

I just went on a couple points for the counter. too much time to counter all points.. so even though Luffy had 3 extreme diff fights to get to that level, all it takes is a raid suit and some unlogical powerscaling for Sanji to get to that level?

2- You don't know that first of all. All we've seen is Sanji goes toe to toe with Vergo even after cracking his shin. I could also say Sanji wasn't going all out and that would lead to nowhere.
3- Luffy, Jozu and many others have COO but couldn't dodge it. It's a hax move.
10- Oven is just a tier lower than King similar to the F6. Don't overestimate someone for your headcanon.
15- Still. He stopped it with his bare body. Many others wouldn't be able too.

 

[chacharealsmooth]

Lmfao Mr.1 could literally turn his body into a blade. Pica literally had a massive katana. Yes they were both swordsmen.

And you're forgetting a recurring theme of Zoro's fights. Trying to cut what cannot be cut. Against Mr.1 it was steel, against Pica it was a mountain/golem and against King it would be fire (which Zoro explicitly expressed interest in cutting)

Marco vs King makes infinitely more sense than Sanji vs King too. He's actually strong enough to fight him, they both have similar DF's, both knocking BM's ship down the waterfall and their positions among their respective crews.

You know, Oda can very well make Queen’s arm work as a flamethrower too. I have never said that Sanji wil take King down alone, but leaving a fight to Zoro and say “I am too weak for him, he is yours” is strictly against his character. Sanji and Zoro never intervened with each other’s opponents, unless they work as a tag-team (I am completely okay with 2v1 or 2v2 and would be more than satisfied). 2v1 with Marco against King is also a good option with Sanji acting as a support or main fighter in the fight, since Marco is needed against Yonkos too.
King, unlike Vergo, Doflamingo or Daifuku, attacked directly with intent to kill, from which there is no turning back. Sanji has no excuses but to fight him at this stage.

 

[Finalbeta]

None will fight King

Zoro is too busy with a yonko to waste his precious time and the results of his intense Enma training

Sanji isn't powerful enough and an F6 would stick more to his power level

 

[bennbeckman]

You must have hated water 7 then

I enjoyed the 1v1s, I enjoyed Robins story, very fitting for her role she played. Still dont get that powerscaling either

 

[SinOfGreed]

You know, Oda can very well make Queen’s arm work as a flamethrower too. I have never said that Sanji wil take King down alone, but leaving a fight to Zoro and say “I am too weak for him, he is yours” is strictly against his character. Sanji and Zoro never intervened with each other’s opponents, unless they work as a tag-team (I am completely okay with 2v1 or 2v2 and would be more than satisfied). 2v1 with Marco against King is also a good option with Sanji acting as a support or main fighter in the fight, since Marco is needed against Yonkos too.
King, unlike Vergo, Doflamingo or Daifuku, attacked directly with intent to kill, from which there is no turning back. Sanji has no excuses but to fight him at this stage.

Like i said, Sanji won't get priority over Zoro (swordsman) or Marco (aerial). There are too many interactions for King that have yet to be had for Sanji to just 1v1 him in Act 3 of all places.

 

[BangOO🍅]

if we used logic
King able to fly and a swordsman.
The problem is, there is 2 variable there.
King isnt only swordsman, but he is also a fly fighters.
So if you say Sanji will fight King, you missing the swordsman variable.
And if zoro will fight king, you missing the fly ability.

 

[kurwa]

Queen is not a swordsman lol. His swords don't even have sheaths. King is the only one confirmed to be a swordsman

I always knew Mihawk was sheatless fraud

 

[bennbeckman]

2- You don't know that first of all. All we've seen is Sanji goes toe to toe with Vergo even after cracking his shin. I could also say Sanji wasn't going all out and that would lead to nowhere.
3- Luffy, Jozu and many others have COO but couldn't dodge it. It's a hax move.
10- Oven is just a tier lower than King similar to the F6. Don't overestimate someone for your headcanon.
15- Still. He stopped it with his bare body. Many others wouldn't be able too.

2. Really? He was in full clad COA vs Law, that was forsure his Full strength.
There is an argument of Sanji not going out. But when they show his leg cracking that hints towards how durable he is.
3. That's a logical argument, im pretty sure Luffy wasnt ever being controlled by doffy, but i can give you that point
10. Skrimishing and going extreme diff... 2 very very different things. Also very 2 sided. Sanji not having an extreme diff fight doesnt give him the chance to get stronger
15. Idk why you're making out Kanjuro's ink arrows to an attack as powerful as a yonkos, which did Damage and not sink ships, (which denjiro did with one slice, etc)

 

[chacharealsmooth]

Like i said, Sanji won't get priority over Zoro (swordsman) or Marco (aerial). There are too many interactions for King that have yet to be had for Sanji to just 1v1 him in Act 3 of all places.

Neither will Zoro over Sanji. This has never been a story of “who is more important” or “who Oda likes more”. Taking down heavy hitters of BP at this stage makes sense because BMP are coming in the next stage. They are, whether you like it or not, great contribution to BP’s forces.

 

[RJO]

When was it confirmed King is the strongest swordsman in Wano? King is not fire himself, he uses fire to just strengthen his attacks, just like Sanji. Oda has never put more importance to some members of the crew compared to others. Let me ask you, was Pica a swordsman? Was Mr. 1 a swordsman? Their forte was durability and Queen probably is the most durable person out there.
Zoro wanting to cut fire is not a bigger argument than Sanji’s and King’s extremely similar fighting style.

+ kaido can breathe fire, zoro can cut that

 

[BangOO🍅]

and King and Queen portrayed to be on the same level.
the only thing make him "stronger" its because his card order.

 

[SinOfGreed]

Neither will Zoro over Sanji. This has never been a story of “who is more important” or “who Oda likes more”. Taking down heavy hitters of BP at this stage makes sense because BMP are coming in the next stage. They are, whether you like it or not, great contribution to BP’s forces.

When it comes to who fights the swordsman, Zoro gets priority. That much is common sense.

 

[chacharealsmooth]

+ kaido can breathe fire, zoro can cut that

Kaido can breathe fire, BM is literally using a mini sun which cannot be countered unless you have water on you or you can cut fire. They are much better options.

 

[BangOO🍅]

i just realize yoru doesnt have a sheath but he called to be a world strongest swordsman

 

[bennbeckman]

i just realize yoru doesnt have a sheath but he called to be a world strongest swordsman

It's too big, he carries that mofo on his back, his mini blade does have a sheath though

 

[Tobra]

I always knew Mihawk was sheatless fraud

this one hurts.....