Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1164 Spoilers Discussion

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now that i look back, rocks calling imu king of the (bilge) rats is huge... in myths, a rat king is usually a bunch of said rodents stuck together in a hidden and filthy place of a ship/vessel, sometimes stuck with their tails which makes them an overall stronger and horrifying monster! this essentially means if imu dies, every gorosei and knight will instantly vanish just like saturn!

so rocks' description is more apt than being a joke., most likely imu and the gorosei communicate due to this and even from marijoa to egghead... a shared conscience dictated by imu himself, not some form of haki or voice of all things.
 
now that i look back, rocks calling imu king of the (bilge) rats is huge...
Apparently, the Japanese idiom used is to be intended as "a rat who became king", meaning someone poor, raised on the streets, who had no right to the crown.

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The latest chapters give more details in the directions taken by Rocks pirates since the God Valley event

> Ochoku was a traitor working for the Government and responsible in Don Marlon's death
> Big Mom decided that post-GV was the right moment to split and form her crew, and Streusen was her follower
> Kaido was only aiming for a fruit and testing it's powers before getting manhandled by Xebec, most likely the moment Big Mom stated she saved his life, and with his speech around people betraying others when they see them losing, it might be the moment he decided it was time for him to form his own crew
> Captain John was aiming at taking all the treasures and bail with his crew before being stopped by Ganzui, but apparently he is still alive, eventhough we know he'd still be killed at one point by his own crew
> Ganzui incapacitated John and aimed at doing the same with Shiki to keep the treasures for himself
> Shiki ended up defeating Ganzui as a retaliation and while it's unclear yet, he presumably ended up taking the treasures with the ambition to form his fleet(the one later known as the largest in the world)
> Glorosia loves Roger and was Shakky's former captain, a Shakky currently with Rayleigh, so safe to assume she'd take a ride on their ship, but with Roger ignoring her leading her to go back to Amazon Lily

As for Whitebeard, he currently clashed with Demon Xebec, and he isn't mentioned to be defeated like Big Mom and Kaido, so very curious in what he'd do, especially considering his honorable nature as a man who was a long time with Xebec

I'm assuming Stussy will just try to cling him judging by how much she loves him, but we know that the feeling isn't mutual, with Whitebeard ending up forming his crew at one point and Marco having some unclear thoughts about her since his days as a rookie in his crew

We know Gil Bastar was killed at one point since he was part of Moria's zombie army in Thriller Bark

The unknown are Barbel and Kyo, with Kyo originally portrayed as Shiki's former rival, so could his fate be related to Shiki?
 
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