Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1164 Spoilers Discussion

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Yeah, I'm not the retard who thinks Aokiji is equal to Garp the "Fist" based on sound effects. When Aokiji does this, come and talk to me.

"I'm not a retard who thinks that author included and focused on sound effects of them training and showing that Kuzan's punching sound effect and destruction of the ship finally reached Garp's ...was all for nothing because it did not mean anything!!!!"
 

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Man even as a bum no one manages to aura farm quite like this man. He might have the best VA in the business.

I genuinely believe if we lose this voice, Oda will feed him to Koby due to aura loss. Sometimes Oda needs a reminder of who is own characters are, look no further than Sanji's treatment after the OPLA it's been much improved.
 
Garp was teaching young Kuzan how to destroy battleships. It's really not that deep. Set the agenda aside for a second.



Oda made the flashback to show Garp was Kuzan's teacher.
Nope the scene with onomathopees is literally implying Kuzan growth with time in power. Brennew says that strength isn't something u are born with. U achieve it. Kuzan did the same training and got that strength. Why wouldn't he.

You can talk about Haki difference
 
Garp was teaching young Kuzan how to destroy battleships. It's really not that deep.
Lol. Garp taught Kuzan how to do this:



And yes, obviously, dfless Kuzan will not be 100% prime Garp's strength and attacks, Garp honed his fist to fist combat to perfection. The point is, doing the above as a supposed DF merchant is hell of a feat, given he has that as a side hustle to an awakened top tier Logia.
 
Man even as a bum no one manages to aura farm quite like this man. He might have the best VA in the business.

I genuinely believe if we lose this voice, Oda will feed him to Koby due to aura loss. Sometimes Oda needs a reminder of who is own characters are, look no further than Sanji's treatment after the OPLA it's been much improved.
Oda drawing Bunta Sugawara insert
 
Idk about as a duo but as individuals, yes easily.

Rocks is everything Roger fans hallucinated Roger being.

Even if we disregard the whole Jiaga affair,

Rocks defeated or sunk every Marine ship he ever came across without fear. Whitebeard ran from fodder Marines.

Rocks subordinated all Yonko through his strength. Roger ducked Big Mom actively, never went to Wano to face Kaido, and never actually defeated Whitebeard but was only equal to him.

Rocks destroyed the fucking Gates of Justice. That is seriously the best individual achievement of any Pirate imo. We will never again see another Pirate brave enough to destroy the Gates other than maybe Teach or Luffy.

Rocks rivaled Harald in power, their very first Reverie Haki clash was a 5 Km wide clash. I don’t even think Primebeard and Roger (from the Wano flashback) had a 1 Km Haki clash lol. Definitely none of these jobbers on God Valley have shown Haki anywhere close to that level.

And Rocks didn’t simply inconclusively clash with Harald once and never again, he and Harald later had an extreme diff life or death battle showing that yes, Rocks was relative to Harald in power.

Rocks negged Garling and a bunch of DR’d Davy clan members. The same Garling scarred Whitebeard.

Rocks had multiple encounters and battles with Imu, as far as we know Roger never even laid eyes on Imu outside of God Valley where Imu was there for Rocks anyway. It’s like Imu didn’t take Roger seriously at all but personally intervened to combat Rocks.

Rocks is seriously the man, he is the strongest Pirate we will probably ever see prior to Joy Boy/Davy Jones/EOS Luffy and Teach. No other Pirate will do what Rocks has done.

And of course, I saved by far his best feat for last,

He allegedly killed a turf restrained Jiaga with the help of hostages while no other Pirate in history has even defeated an Admiral let alone killed one.

Seriously Rocks is the fucking man. He is as much of a complete monster as Gargling is a complete fraud.
Eternal pass to leech off Jones for you mister.
 
Oda juxtaposed Koby's Honesty Impact with a flashback of him training with the battleship bags like his predecessors did to symbolize his growth, but Oda wasn't trying to say anything when he drew Kuzan and Garp's punches sounding indistinguishable after decades of the apprentice training with his mentor.
Fucking lmfao, what agenda brainrot did to this fandom is unforgivable.
 
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