Controversial Pot Calling Kettle Black (Nutshell)

[Bisoromi Bear]

It's important to understand the world in term of material and class interests. Being a leftist is not only having leftist opinions, it's also and more than anything having opinions that are in alignment with the interest of the oppressed class, or dominated groups of people. Being a rightist is the opposite. Being a rightist means having opinion & thus material interest that align AGAINST these groups of people.



As I thought, for this one, you do not understand the concept or the materialist reasoning behind the concept. I'm willing to explain, but you need to pay attention. Because it's important.

You believe that people will little money vote left because they have little money. This is evidently not true. The average Trump voter has less money and education. Same with afd voters.
If taking money away from the citizens automatically made them communists, corporate politicians wouldn't be hellbent on taking money away from the citizens.

 

[Monkey D Theories]

I think there’s a very real danger that the Trump administration will collide with foreign governments to eliminate his political rivals.

I’d say Israel is the most likely option, but really any right wing government is a potential ally.

The Trump admin has shown historical levels of corruption. If he were to make a deal with Netanyahu, leveraging unquestioning support for Israel in return for Mossad eliminating Mamdani, Newsom, AOC, etc., I don’t see what either party would have to lose.

He has done lesser collusions in the past, trying to get dirt on Biden with Ukraine, and sending immigrants to foreign prisons. Orchestrating a hit via foreign 3rd parties is the next step and probably the best way to ensure his party stays in power in the long term.

America has done this to other countries. Not unreasonable to think a bad actor could direct this policy inwards to stay in power indefinitely.

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

I think there’s a very real danger that the Trump administration will collide with foreign governments to eliminate his political rivals.

I’d say Israel is the most likely option, but really any right wing government is a potential ally.

The Trump admin has shown historical levels of corruption. If he were to make a deal with Netanyahu, leveraging unquestioning support for Israel in return for Mossad eliminating Mamdani, Newsom, AOC, etc., I don’t see what either party would have to lose.

He has done lesser collusions in the past, trying to get dirt on Biden with Ukraine, and sending immigrants to foreign prisons. Orchestrating a hit via foreign 3rd parties is the next step and probably the best way to ensure his party stays in power in the long term.

America has done this to other countries. Not unreasonable to think a bad actor could direct this policy inwards to stay in power indefinitely.

Not really surprising considering he's definitely top 3 worst presidents we've ever had

 

[Logiko]

You believe that people will little money vote left because they have little money. This is evidently not true. The average Trump voter has less money and education. Same with afd voters.

I do not believe that. There is another factor that is called politicization. If your politicization and the material conditions related to your ethics do not align with your material interests, you won't vote for people who will help you. I explained that multiple times already, especially when I talked about whiteness, or the reactionary side of Trump's working class base.

I think there’s a very real danger that the Trump administration will collide with foreign governments to eliminate his political rivals.

I’d say Israel is the most likely option, but really any right wing government is a potential ally.

The Trump admin has shown historical levels of corruption. If he were to make a deal with Netanyahu, leveraging unquestioning support for Israel in return for Mossad eliminating Mamdani, Newsom, AOC, etc., I don’t see what either party would have to lose.

He has done lesser collusions in the past, trying to get dirt on Biden with Ukraine, and sending immigrants to foreign prisons. Orchestrating a hit via foreign 3rd parties is the next step and probably the best way to ensure his party stays in power in the long term.

America has done this to other countries. Not unreasonable to think a bad actor could direct this policy inwards to stay in power indefinitely.

Yup, that's a very real risk. Trump has proved now that he can do anything and he won't be stopped. So he will do everything. Expect the worse.

about generalizing cops not being a bad thing or whatever

Ok. You need first to know that "Acab" does not only mean "everysingle cops are bastard" but also "Every cops will end up behaving like bastard". To understand why, you need to understand society as a cohesion of structural systems & institutions that shape us. As such, bad & oppressive systems will mostly create bad behaviors. This is the first of 2 issues, do you understand until that point?

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

And two, stuff like "reverse racism isn't real" and acab is something leftists actually want people to believe?

Pushing the idea that "reverse racism" aka racism against white people is not possible is dangerous. It may lead to a future where people of European heritage are discriminated or ethnically cleansed under the pretense that it's justified because white people are always the oppressors and therefore can never be victims of oppression.
We can already witness anti white and anti European bias under the guise of anticolonialism.
Considering that white and European people are, globally speaking, a minority this has the potential to get really hairy in a few decades or centuries.

Yeah. It's actually pretty basic stuff. But your reject of both of these is showing that you do not understand - even after me explaining these concepts to you - what both of these means. OR that you do understand but you do not agree, which is even worse and would be a testimony of your rightist alignmen

just no

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Ok. You need first to know that "Acab" does not only mean "everysingle cops are bastard" but also "Every cops will end up behaving like bastard". To understand why, you need to understand society as a cohesion of structural systems & institutions that shape us. As such, bad & oppressive systems will mostly create bad behaviors. This is the first of 2 issues, do you understand until that point?

Acab stands for all cops are bastards.
If the message you want to convey is "the structure of our society fosters a climate that enables violence among the executive" then find an acronym for it.
Until then acab still means ALL cops are bastards.

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

Pushing the idea that "reverse racism" aka racism against white people is not possible is dangerous. It may lead to a future where people of European heritage are discriminated or ethnically cleansed under the pretense that it's justified because white people are always the oppressors and therefore can never be victims of oppression.
We can already witness anti white and anti European bias under the guise of anticolonialism.
Considering that white and European people are, globally speaking, a minority this has the potential to get really hairy in a few decades or centuries.

just no

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Acab stands for all cops are bastards.
If the message you want to convey is "the structure of our society fosters a climate that enables violence among the executive" then find an acronym for it.
Until then acab still means ALL cops are bastards.

I already know very well that hate towards non-marginalized groups (i.e heterosexual people) is still bad (although it's not as widespread as things like homophobia or hate against black or jewish people for example), I'm not the one you need to convince here. Logiko is the one that seems to believe it's fine to hate on all white people while not understanding that it's essentially just repeating a cycle infinitely expecting things to change between these groups when progress is very clearly not being made since everyone just wants to stab at eachother's necks relentlessly

 

[Logiko]

If the message you want to convey is "the structure of our society fosters a climate that enables violence among the executive" then find an acronym for it.
Until then acab still means ALL cops are bastards.

A message can have multiple explanations. It's similar to all men are trash.

 

[Roo]

A message can have multiple explanations. It's similar to all men are trash.

All men are trash is a bad message and the red pill is the prime example of it

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

A message can have multiple explanations. It's similar to all men are trash.

All women are trash
..What do you mean I'm a misogynist? Obviously I was referring to the women who specifically molest children or kill their own babies or shoplift or other horrible things. The fact you got offended on their behalf means you're actually just mad cause what I said implies you're one of those horrible people (and not that you just simply dislike the fact that I'm being bigoted)

 

[Logiko]

I already know very well that hate towards non-marginalized groups (i.e heterosexual people) is still bad (although it's not as widespread as things like homophobia or hate against black or jewish people for example), I'm not the one you need to convince here. Logiko is the one that seems to believe it's fine to hate on all white people while not understanding that it's essentially just repeating a cycle infinitely expecting things to change between these groups when progress is very clearly not being made since everyone just wants to stab at eachother's necks relentlessly

Did you understand what I just explained. I want to be sure before I continue. (and because I don't won't to go over three lines)

Pushing the idea that "reverse racism" aka racism against white people is not possible is dangerous. It may lead to a future where people of European heritage are discriminated or ethnically cleansed under the pretense that it's justified because white people are always the oppressors and therefore can never be victims of oppression.
We can already witness anti white and anti European bias under the guise of anticolonialism.
Considering that white and European people are, globally speaking, a minority this has the potential to get really hairy in a few decades or centuries.

There are things you need to understand.

All men are trash is a bad message and the red pill is the prime example of it

Nah, it's catchy.

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All women are trash
..What do you mean I'm a misogynist? Obviously I was referring to the women who specifically molest children or kill their own babies or shoplift or other horrible things. The fact you got offended on their behalf means you're actually just mad cause what I said implies you're one of those horrible people (and not that you just simply dislike the fact that I'm being bigoted)

See.. I think you didn't understand what I just wrote here:

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To understand why, you need to understand society as a cohesion of structural systems & institutions that shape us. As such, bad & oppressive systems will mostly create bad behaviors. This is the first of 2 issues, do you understand until that point?

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

Did you understand what I just explained. I want to be sure before I continue. (and because I don't won't to go over three lines)



There are things you need to understand.


Nah, it's catchy.

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See.. I think you didn't understand what I just wrote here:

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Idk what you mean but I'm not trying to start arguments here or anything like that. I'm just speaking my mind here, all women are trash. I clearly do not have some type of unhealed trauma related to women that is making me act like this!

 

[Roo]

“Catchy” = good message lmao

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

I already know very well that hate towards non-marginalized groups (i.e heterosexual people) is still bad (although it's not as widespread as things like homophobia or hate against black or jewish people for example), I'm not the one you need to convince here. Logiko is the one that seems to believe it's fine to hate on all white people while not understanding that it's essentially just repeating a cycle infinitely expecting things to change between these groups when progress is very clearly not being made since everyone just wants to stab at eachother's necks relentlessly

The stabbing each others necks thing is bound to become worse as corporate cunts are profiting from conflict. The Palantir guy said something along the lines of no conflict is bad for business.
The polarization in exacerbated by social media is actively being propagated by bad actors in the background whose goal it is to pit different groups against one another and bring civil society to ruin. Whether it's China, the US, Russia, tech bros, temu or whoever.

There are things you need to understand.

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similar to all men are trash.

They are not.
Ask the boys who live a life of (sexual) abuse at the hands of their own mothers what they think of this phrase. If they are brainwashed enough they might even agree with you.

 

[Logiko]

Idk what you mean but I'm not trying to start arguments here or anything like that. I'm just speaking my mind here, all women are trash. I clearly do not have some type of unhealed trauma related to women that is making me act like this!

“Catchy” = good message lmao

Can you boys do me a favor? I don't like that, but I don't know how to do it without going into a big text of explanation. Go to your local AI overlord and ask it this: "Why does it make sense for a leftist to say "all men are trash? Explain their reasoning to me in detail".

Thanks for your attention, I have a reaction to watch in the meantime.

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

Can you boys do me a favor? I don't like that, but I don't know how to do it without going into a big text of explanation. Go to your local AI overlord and ask it this: "Why does it make sense for a leftist to say "all men are trash? Explain their reasoning to me in detail".

Thanks for your attention, I have a reaction to watch in the meantime.

A) a i is unreliable

B) I'm not a man🤣🤣🤣 at least not in the biological sense

 

[Roo]

Can you boys do me a favor? I don't like that, but I don't know how to do it without going into a big text of explanation. Go to your local AI overlord and ask it this: "Why does it make sense for a leftist to say "all men are trash? Explain their reasoning to me in detail".

Thanks for your attention, I have a reaction to watch in the meantime.

I can understand why women might have an issue with men, just like I can understand why someone might be racist

doesnt mean id agree with their generalizations lol

 

[Midnight Delight]

B) I'm not a man🤣🤣🤣 at least not in the biological sense

Didn't you admit being a guy

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

The stabbing each others necks thing is bound to become worse as corporate cunts are profiting from conflict. The Palantir guy said something along the lines of no conflict is bad for business.
The polarization in exacerbated by social media is actively being propagated by bad actors in the background whose goal it is to pit different groups against one another and bring civil society to ruin. Whether it's China, the US, Russia, tech bros, temu or whoever.

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They are not.
Ask the boys who live a life of (sexual) abuse at the hands of their own mothers what they think of this phrase. If they are brainwashed enough they might even agree with you.

Some people, thankfully mostly people who are online, seem to believe that it's fine that little boys get molested and manipulated by the women in their life. Because "men are born evil". Like I said before this is just bioessentialism.
It's either that or "Bro you're so lucky that a hot woman slept with you!" ignoring the age gap and/or lack of consent plus the incest (if it's incestuous, although there are cases like teachers molesting kids but ykwim)

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

Nah, it's catchy.

You just summed up why populism works

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molest children or kill their own babies or shoplift

One doesn't belong with the other two🙈

Idk what you mean but I'm not trying to start arguments here or anything like that. I'm just speaking my mind here, all women are trash. I clearly do not have some type of unhealed trauma related to women that is making me act like this!

There's a reason the word femcel exists

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

You just summed up why populism works

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One doesn't belong with the other two🙈



There's a reason the word femcel exists

To be fair I never said those were crimes on equal levels lol.