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https://www.theverge.com/news/827658/meta-17-strike-policy-sex-trafficking-testimony-lawsuit
17 strikes?? 17 FUCKING STRIKES?! So Facebook decided that pedophiles deserve SIX OUTS WORTH OF CHANCES TO MOLEST CHILDREN?!?! Marijuana dealers get three strikes at best, but child abusers get 17 STRIKES WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK!!! Every single person involved here, from Zuckerberg on down, should be dipped into a pool of pirahnas dick first
17 strikes?? 17 FUCKING STRIKES?! So Facebook decided that pedophiles deserve SIX OUTS WORTH OF CHANCES TO MOLEST CHILDREN?!?! Marijuana dealers get three strikes at best, but child abusers get 17 STRIKES WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK!!! Every single person involved here, from Zuckerberg on down, should be dipped into a pool of pirahnas dick first
https://www.theverge.com/news/827658/meta-17-strike-policy-sex-trafficking-testimony-lawsuit
17 strikes?? 17 FUCKING STRIKES?! So Facebook decided that pedophiles deserve SIX OUTS WORTH OF CHANCES TO MOLEST CHILDREN?!?! Marijuana dealers get three strikes at best, but child abusers get 17 STRIKES WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK!!! Every single person involved here, from Zuckerberg on down, should be dipped into a pool of pirahnas dick first
17 strikes?? 17 FUCKING STRIKES?! So Facebook decided that pedophiles deserve SIX OUTS WORTH OF CHANCES TO MOLEST CHILDREN?!?! Marijuana dealers get three strikes at best, but child abusers get 17 STRIKES WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK!!! Every single person involved here, from Zuckerberg on down, should be dipped into a pool of pirahnas dick first
What does a strike consist on btw ? Someone reporting a post ?
It does seem like an oddly specific number…maybe because 17 is the same age that child molesters get sick of abusing minors, right before they become legal? As far as what constitutes a strike, I’d guess it’s a mix of unwanted public comments/private DMs being reported, but the article mentions how Meta made it difficult to navigate that process. Either way, sacrificing the safety of minors in the interest of driving engagement is truly one of the most evil things this already shady corporation could do and they all deserve the harshest punishment possible 
https://www.theverge.com/news/827658/meta-17-strike-policy-sex-trafficking-testimony-lawsuit
17 strikes?? 17 FUCKING STRIKES?! So Facebook decided that pedophiles deserve SIX OUTS WORTH OF CHANCES TO MOLEST CHILDREN?!?! Marijuana dealers get three strikes at best, but child abusers get 17 STRIKES WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK!!! Every single person involved here, from Zuckerberg on down, should be dipped into a pool of pirahnas dick first
17 strikes?? 17 FUCKING STRIKES?! So Facebook decided that pedophiles deserve SIX OUTS WORTH OF CHANCES TO MOLEST CHILDREN?!?! Marijuana dealers get three strikes at best, but child abusers get 17 STRIKES WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK!!! Every single person involved here, from Zuckerberg on down, should be dipped into a pool of pirahnas dick first
Thieves protecting thieves.
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Can someone remind me why I’m expected to treat this whore’s husband’s death with the utmost respect when she’s being flippant and crass about publicly cucking him postmortem?? I know, I know, [insert underheated/fascistic conservative double standard here], it’s just wild that anyone can see this kind of shit every single day and still believe that Republicans have a shred of decency
Can someone remind me why I’m expected to treat this whore’s husband’s death with the utmost respect when she’s being flippant and crass about publicly cucking him postmortem?? I know, I know, [insert underheated/fascistic conservative double standard here], it’s just wild that anyone can see this kind of shit every single day and still believe that Republicans have a shred of decency
Predators defending predators, more like…and I can’t even imagine how sick this must make you as a survivor, but even without that context, I’m hopping mad over this indefensibly cruel bullshit. Can’t wait for our resident smooth brained bootlickers to NOT chime in with any condemnations, they truly do not give a fuck about anyone except themselves and the con men they blindly worship 
Predators defending predators, more like…and I can’t even imagine how sick this must make you as a survivor, but even without that context, I’m hopping mad over this indefensibly cruel bullshit. Can’t wait for our resident smooth brained bootlickers to NOT chime in with any condemnations, they truly do not give a fuck about anyone except themselves and the con men they blindly worship
You just gotta look at how female predators especially teachers are treated by the media and society and that speaks volumes alone on the lack of justice, honesty, accountability and fairness in the world. But as we know with the "rich elites", there are countless male predators getting away with doing way worse to unimaginable amounts of poor innnocent children than what was done to me and that drives me almost literally rabid with fury and angst.
Exactly that too, isnt it strange how they always call the LGBT the predators, the wokies, the leftists etc, calling them groomers but they are more silent than the fucking void of space itself when many, many, many right leaning figures are exposed for doing the same shit they accuse lefties of doing and FAR worse even?
That's exactly what it is too, it's all self serving peacocking parading as faux concern of others, "think of the children" but means much more worse than what they want you to think, never has the implications of a seemingly "innocent" phrase had such secretly evil connotations behind it and thus so damning. They want to believe it's all exclusive to one side but it's also a purposeful misdirection, a scapegoat to protect themselves and hide their own crimes, their own skeletons.
It's not a coincidence all the people who targeted me just conveniently happened to lean hard right in life. Really must be a coincidence too, surely?
I've seen people on the left say they should just become right wing grifters because they don't have to try and just put out Cocomelon tier slop constantly for adult children who will watch it blindly and never question it, throwing money at them just so they can have the right to feel what they want to feel and not jutisfy themselves. And I've witnessed firsthand, anti woke youtubers getting thrown literal thousands of dollars at them in streams, up to 500 dollars per donation even multiple of those from the same person in a stream. In streams that were done almost everyday at least. I'm constantly amazed how I've not resorted to drowning myself in alcohol and or drugs after witnessing such soul destroying horrors or well experiencing FAR worse in life than that first hand as we just discussed too ofc.
People love to think I'm immature/childish but they dont realise is, I never had a childhood. It was robbed from me, taken away from me by those who wanted me to violate me and prevent me from ever being happy, functional, "normal" etc, And those same people will are the same ones who will cry about the masses of predators out there and that "our" and "their" children aren't safe, when they neglect their own children, when they're not emotionally and physically abusing them too. The irony is so damning, so cutting, even Nietzsche would probably feel nauseous at the sheer nihilistic despair of it all or something. Or maybe not. I'm not good with metaphors/analogies.
Thank you though for understanding. As I get older, its been getting harder for me to accept as I realise how much of my youth as taken from me and I was robbed of what many others take for granted and have no idea how truly irreplaceable, invaluable it is and I'll never get to experience again in my life properly. I was forced to grow up prematurely and immediately and the whole "immature" behaviour I exhibit has always been a front I have put on for most of my entire life now at least as a vain coping mechanism to try and keep myself going when I feel I have nothing left to live for anymore. Sorry to get so bleak there but I don't want to sugarcoat it or sugarcoat it too much at least. Some things need to be said. What I experienced was "far milder" than what most abuse victims go through, but it damaged me so much permanently for life even after 15 years of therapy I'm still struggling, that I can't even imagine what people who have suffered far worse can cope but I'm not surprised at how much they spiral, rely on vices and have mental breakdowns and self harm due to it too. I just feel genuine pity, sadness for them. Pain.
I had a friend who was weirdly similar to Chester Bennington in appearance and he experienced far worse abuse than me, unimaginable, truly some of the most extreme abuse a poor child can get and from his own adoptive parents instead too. Unsurprisingly they leaned very hard right too. Coincidence again I swear, these weird coincidences are so weird. There was a time I had to try to calm him down in voice chat for hours at extremely late at night/morning whilst dealing with fresh severe traumas myself, so that was "fun". But I don't regret it either as he's still alive and doing a lot better ofc, I might have saved his life that day as I knew he wanted to take his own life, he has talked about it before and I wouldn't blame him after all he's been through and survived. I don't know how he keeps himself going but I respect it, the man is a soldier, a warrior and he refuses to give up no matter how much he wants to though. Sadly we drifted apart eventually but I check up on him every once in a blue moon online and he seems to be doing well, in a better place by the looks of it and I'm glad for him, he deserves and needs that ofc.
Thank you though for understanding. As I get older, its been getting harder for me to accept as I realise how much of my youth as taken from me and I was robbed of what many others take for granted and have no idea how truly irreplaceable, invaluable it is and I'll never get to experience again in my life properly. I was forced to grow up prematurely and immediately and the whole "immature" behaviour I exhibit has always been a front I have put on for most of my entire life now at least as a vain coping mechanism to try and keep myself going when I feel I have nothing left to live for anymore. Sorry to get so bleak there but I don't want to sugarcoat it or sugarcoat it too much at least. Some things need to be said. What I experienced was "far milder" than what most abuse victims go through, but it damaged me so much permanently for life even after 15 years of therapy I'm still struggling, that I can't even imagine what people who have suffered far worse can cope but I'm not surprised at how much they spiral, rely on vices and have mental breakdowns and self harm due to it too. I just feel genuine pity, sadness for them. Pain.
I had a friend who was weirdly similar to Chester Bennington in appearance and he experienced far worse abuse than me, unimaginable, truly some of the most extreme abuse a poor child can get and from his own adoptive parents instead too. Unsurprisingly they leaned very hard right too. Coincidence again I swear, these weird coincidences are so weird. There was a time I had to try to calm him down in voice chat for hours at extremely late at night/morning whilst dealing with fresh severe traumas myself, so that was "fun". But I don't regret it either as he's still alive and doing a lot better ofc, I might have saved his life that day as I knew he wanted to take his own life, he has talked about it before and I wouldn't blame him after all he's been through and survived. I don't know how he keeps himself going but I respect it, the man is a soldier, a warrior and he refuses to give up no matter how much he wants to though. Sadly we drifted apart eventually but I check up on him every once in a blue moon online and he seems to be doing well, in a better place by the looks of it and I'm glad for him, he deserves and needs that ofc.
Apologies for the trauma dumping but I had to get it off my chest. Hearing all this shit about people being exposed for being predators and abusers is exhausting, it seems to be way more common and everywhere and there are some on the left too like that too, don't get me wrong but it's way more common on the right for sure. Or at least they are much louder about it and much better at gettting caught/exposed over it too. Not to mention how many far right politicians in USA tried to contest the ban of child marriages recently and still support it but I digress.
Don't even get me started on the the rise of the EXTREME open racism lately online and the racism I have experience again IRL a while ago too, also from people who weirdly enough leaned right again. Who wanted to keep "Britain pure and white only". If these coincidences keep happening, I might actually have to get suspicious. Everytime I go out, I get death glares from white people constantly, not all of them but there's always a certain few, always the older generations who keep doing it and the "not racists" are always strangely silent about the extreme violence and hate crimes towards non-white people for some odd reason and it's the "not racists" who keep posting absolutely unforgivable, unimaginable actually openly racist shit online too.
Oh wait never mind I'm ranting about them anyway too lmao.
When I first wanted to give up on life for good decades ago, I kept myself from doing it and thus going by telling myself, life has to get better, the racism will stop, people will become more understanding, accepting and that is somewhat true but it feels like we've gone 2 steps forward and 1 step backward too as a race or w/e, this problem is so prevalent worldwide. Seeing stories of Canadians being extremely openly racist and aggressive towards Indians online and in person, seeing it happen firsthand here to myself and others and so on. USA is self explanatory and you guys will know from living there and seeing and hearing all about it there too ofc.
Now I'm seeing my younger self glaring with absolutely indignant fury at me that speaks a thousand words and none of them pleasant either.
It fucking sucks. I don't meant to be so pessimistic but I really had hoped racism would permanently become a thing of the past, along with pedophilia and other things and I realise in hindsight, how truly naive I was back then and what I experienced back then doesn't even compare to the multiltudes of horrors I have seen and heard about online and in the news and such.
Life is better in some ways but man, it's so hard to look back on myself decades ago and tell him, "you were right though" when he felt that racism would still thrive, along with other forms of discrimination and ignorance, abusers would still go free and continue abusing others en masse and so on. Immorality would prosper.
Now I'm seeing my younger self glaring with absolutely indignant fury at me that speaks a thousand words and none of them pleasant either.
It fucking sucks. I don't meant to be so pessimistic but I really had hoped racism would permanently become a thing of the past, along with pedophilia and other things and I realise in hindsight, how truly naive I was back then and what I experienced back then doesn't even compare to the multiltudes of horrors I have seen and heard about online and in the news and such.
Life is better in some ways but man, it's so hard to look back on myself decades ago and tell him, "you were right though" when he felt that racism would still thrive, along with other forms of discrimination and ignorance, abusers would still go free and continue abusing others en masse and so on. Immorality would prosper.
What you said is complete truth as always man. They love to say the quiet parts out loud and purposely use noise, volume to distract from what really matters and stay silent on or even silence, cover up what they are ashamed and guilty of too.
Nah not really. Right wing ideology tends to ignore issues with the system and put blame on the individual. Various right wing ideologies need an outgroup or perceived inferior to blame issues of the nation on. The further you go to the right, the more willing you are to crack down on outgroups.
Extremely condensed and more generalized, but whenever I get the energy to go all in on left vs center vs right, I'm quickly defeated by my low attention span lol
Extremely condensed and more generalized, but whenever I get the energy to go all in on left vs center vs right, I'm quickly defeated by my low attention span lol
Yep. Here's some more simplified shit before my brain betrays me again.
Left = the system itself is working exactly as intended in causing problems and needs to be replaced
Center= the system is broken and a few tweaks can fix it
Right = the system is fine. Certain people within the system is what's causing the issue.
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Leftist believe that at least majority of the problems in society is material. Bad things happen when a person's basic material needs aren't meet. The prioritize equality of outcome.
Right wingers believe that a person's hard work and morality determines their place in society, and those with bad material conditions and commits crime are because of their lack of merit and moral failures. The prioritize equality of opportunity instead of outcome.
Centrist are against radical changes on either side and dont want to change the ecomonic system. They prefer to uphold to status quo and have a vested interest in thing remaining the same. They acknowledge the problems facing marginalized groups but refuse any economic reforms and instead, tried to uplift via more representation. They are hated by the left and right for good reason lol
Left = the system itself is working exactly as intended in causing problems and needs to be replaced
Center= the system is broken and a few tweaks can fix it
Right = the system is fine. Certain people within the system is what's causing the issue.
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Leftist believe that at least majority of the problems in society is material. Bad things happen when a person's basic material needs aren't meet. The prioritize equality of outcome.
Right wingers believe that a person's hard work and morality determines their place in society, and those with bad material conditions and commits crime are because of their lack of merit and moral failures. The prioritize equality of opportunity instead of outcome.
Centrist are against radical changes on either side and dont want to change the ecomonic system. They prefer to uphold to status quo and have a vested interest in thing remaining the same. They acknowledge the problems facing marginalized groups but refuse any economic reforms and instead, tried to uplift via more representation. They are hated by the left and right for good reason lol
Oooh nice, this is the most concise and thus understandable explanation I've seen for all the main political sides or whatever lol.
When you break it down with how each side views the system and thus approaches it, that explains so much in so little damn.
Centrists wanting to protect the status quo is something I've seen come up many times and it really does show when you hear takes from certain major e-celebs and how they fence sit and don't take sides. (Well not so directly and publicly anyway usually.)
It makes so much sense the right focus on a person centered perspective or whatever, which in turn should lean towards more personal accountability and thus individual responsibility. Or something like that lol. they fact they focus specifically on merit and morality is so true too, which I can understand but there's a lot of hypocrisy om their parts there ofc.
Leftists focusing on attacking the system and destroying and or replacing it makes sense too. the whole anarchy and rebellion, revolutions and "Punk culture".
Kinda makes me think of that British Punk Spiderman vs the order and control obsessed, the morality focuses Miguel O'Hara Spiderman in the 2nd Spiderverse film, heh.
Thanks for the summary man, that was a great read and something to dwell on, to think about. a lot of things make a lot more sense now. I had a rough idea anyway but this really clarified it for me.
When you break it down with how each side views the system and thus approaches it, that explains so much in so little damn.
Centrists wanting to protect the status quo is something I've seen come up many times and it really does show when you hear takes from certain major e-celebs and how they fence sit and don't take sides. (Well not so directly and publicly anyway usually.)
It makes so much sense the right focus on a person centered perspective or whatever, which in turn should lean towards more personal accountability and thus individual responsibility. Or something like that lol. they fact they focus specifically on merit and morality is so true too, which I can understand but there's a lot of hypocrisy om their parts there ofc.
Leftists focusing on attacking the system and destroying and or replacing it makes sense too. the whole anarchy and rebellion, revolutions and "Punk culture".
Kinda makes me think of that British Punk Spiderman vs the order and control obsessed, the morality focuses Miguel O'Hara Spiderman in the 2nd Spiderverse film, heh.
Thanks for the summary man, that was a great read and something to dwell on, to think about. a lot of things make a lot more sense now. I had a rough idea anyway but this really clarified it for me.
Glad its makings easier to grasp for you. Everyone tossing terms back n' forth that are inaccurate by definiton, combined with the many ideologies within each political side can make things confusing as fuck lol.
This is what a quick explanation on some of the core values of the 3 key sides. Lemme know if you ever want to know some of stuff in more detail(in a very simplified way of course lol).
This is what a quick explanation on some of the core values of the 3 key sides. Lemme know if you ever want to know some of stuff in more detail(in a very simplified way of course lol).
Indeed. On the left, we believe that we are the product and a part of our universe, a piece of the puzzle. This means that we believe that to change ourselves, we must change the universe or at the very least, the systems (economical or social) that shape us.
But the more we go right the more people believe in the power of the mind to shape this universe. The mind can therefore create on its own the condition for success or failure. This is why people on the right will try to change the individuals instead of changing the universe.
This relationship of agency of the individual on its reality can be traced in pretty much all types of politics and political debate. A random ex: People on the right will believe in individual punishments to stop crime, but the left will say "crime is a result of bad systems" = conflict.
But the more we go right the more people believe in the power of the mind to shape this universe. The mind can therefore create on its own the condition for success or failure. This is why people on the right will try to change the individuals instead of changing the universe.
This relationship of agency of the individual on its reality can be traced in pretty much all types of politics and political debate. A random ex: People on the right will believe in individual punishments to stop crime, but the left will say "crime is a result of bad systems" = conflict.