Character Discussion WB was one of odas best characters but every flashback he makes him worse and more retarded
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The same Whitebeard who pre-TS bitched out from going after Teach?? Yes Oda made him worst post-TS by showcasing the same tendencies Newgate already showcased pre-TS.
You think Whitebeard was a better for sacrificing hundreds of his so called "Sons" to save 1 son vs not going after Kaido for some pointless revenge in a war where his sons would die? This is more consistent to being a "father"?? One would assumee a Whitebeard fan would be thankful Oda showed him as a competent "father" post-Ts lol.
Newgate made it clear, he as a pirate isn't buddy buddy with Xebec. Xebec attacked him, and he said "iight im out". He's a pirate.
You think Whitebeard was a better for sacrificing hundreds of his so called "Sons" to save 1 son vs not going after Kaido for some pointless revenge in a war where his sons would die? This is more consistent to being a "father"?? One would assumee a Whitebeard fan would be thankful Oda showed him as a competent "father" post-Ts lol.
Newgate made it clear, he as a pirate isn't buddy buddy with Xebec. Xebec attacked him, and he said "iight im out". He's a pirate.
He knew he won't be long in this world, someone with Emperor potential should take the helm from him, unfortunately that guy is Ace. He might thinking for some time about the D member mentioned by Roger who will reach the LaughTale and change the world, again it's Ace. However he realized he was wrong about it when fate didn't go Ace way which his death proved why he is wrong. In the meantime, he realized Luffy is probably the one.
Son who is alive, paraded around and about to be publicly executed in a broadcast to rest of the world.
Versus brother who had died years prior to his knowledge.
An important context here.
Whitebeard's crew is basically like a yakuza family. They will fight to save their member, but if the member is already dead, they would not fight to avoid more deaths.......the dude is already dead. Especially when the hostage situation is meant as a public challenge. If you don't answer that call, then nobody in your crew is safe.
Versus brother who had died years prior to his knowledge.
An important context here.
Whitebeard's crew is basically like a yakuza family. They will fight to save their member, but if the member is already dead, they would not fight to avoid more deaths.......the dude is already dead. Especially when the hostage situation is meant as a public challenge. If you don't answer that call, then nobody in your crew is safe.
Sure, none of this changes the fact... as a FATHER he sacrificed hundreds of his sons to save one, in an all out war where he had 0 chances of saving Ace. Lol.
He didn't attempt a covert rescue mission. No this man thought he with his sick self had a chance to go at the Marines with 6 top tiers on their side... all while Garp just smiling at him had this dude tripping out. 😮💨
All you did was give me the reasoning as to why he chose to save Ace. That reasoning is a selfish reasoning, which is completely fine. As everybody is selfish in one piece to an extent. But let's not pretend or act as if his character already wasnt flaws pre-TS.
As a Pirate CAPTAIN its not an issue, since pirates are selfish about their goals. As a dude pretending to be the mother Teresa of OP-verse, yea that's hypocritical.
Not that its an issue for me personally, most characters in OP are hypocritical in some aspects.
He didn't attempt a covert rescue mission. No this man thought he with his sick self had a chance to go at the Marines with 6 top tiers on their side... all while Garp just smiling at him had this dude tripping out. 😮💨
All you did was give me the reasoning as to why he chose to save Ace. That reasoning is a selfish reasoning, which is completely fine. As everybody is selfish in one piece to an extent. But let's not pretend or act as if his character already wasnt flaws pre-TS.
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As a Pirate CAPTAIN its not an issue, since pirates are selfish about their goals. As a dude pretending to be the mother Teresa of OP-verse, yea that's hypocritical.
Not that its an issue for me personally, most characters in OP are hypocritical in some aspects.
What big shots?? Even without Whitebeard, WBPs would've been an emperor tier crew. None of the emperors would've attacked em.
They were far and clear the strongest yonko crew. They just had a weak ass yonko who couldnt last few hours without life support machine.
His desire to rescue Ace had nothing to do with "my crew is gonna die after I die, so let me secure Ace atleast." The blud just wanted to see Ace become the PK like his actual father. Thats it. He prioritized the life of Ace over others. Hence he even stood back watching Oars get chopped up, didnt do shit about it. Only ever made move when the fight came to him.
They were far and clear the strongest yonko crew. They just had a weak ass yonko who couldnt last few hours without life support machine.
His desire to rescue Ace had nothing to do with "my crew is gonna die after I die, so let me secure Ace atleast." The blud just wanted to see Ace become the PK like his actual father. Thats it. He prioritized the life of Ace over others. Hence he even stood back watching Oars get chopped up, didnt do shit about it. Only ever made move when the fight came to him.
The sons wanted to save their brother WB didnt force anyone, they come to fight for ace as they all loved him
That's literally the point of whole arc. Ace thought since he is son of roger he didnt deserve to be loved but when he saw people are willing to sacrifice their lives over him and how much loved he is he cried out of joy even tho people were going to die saving him
Thats the whole point of marineford and Ace, one of oda's best and most beautiful characters to this day, sadly his dumbass death ruins all of this
That's literally the point of whole arc. Ace thought since he is son of roger he didnt deserve to be loved but when he saw people are willing to sacrifice their lives over him and how much loved he is he cried out of joy even tho people were going to die saving him
Thats the whole point of marineford and Ace, one of oda's best and most beautiful characters to this day, sadly his dumbass death ruins all of this
The sons wanted to save their brother WB didnt force anyone, they come to fight for ace as they all loved him
That's literally the point of whole arc. Ace thought since he is son of roger he didnt deserve to be loved but when he saw people are willing to sacrifice their lives over him and how much loved he is he cried out of joy even tho people were going to die saving him
Thats the whole point of marineford and Ace, one of oda's best and most beautiful characters to this day, sadly his dumbass death ruins all of this
That's literally the point of whole arc. Ace thought since he is son of roger he didnt deserve to be loved but when he saw people are willing to sacrifice their lives over him and how much loved he is he cried out of joy even tho people were going to die saving him
Thats the whole point of marineford and Ace, one of oda's best and most beautiful characters to this day, sadly his dumbass death ruins all of this
1- Confirmed simp for Shakky - not Chad anymore
2. Run away from Garp ( I dont give a fuck about excuse he still run away ) - ruined his no scar on his back reputation
3. Xebec won him in davy jones fight and served as his underling - lost all special aura
4. Didnt have same portrayal Garp and Roger had - it appears he was only equal to sick Roger
5. Dumb as fuck for not realising Xebec is not himself and for leaving his captain in moments he needed him the most - utter demolition of his character
I had huge respect for him and Fujitora as characters seems Fujitora is my only hope now.
2. Run away from Garp ( I dont give a fuck about excuse he still run away ) - ruined his no scar on his back reputation
3. Xebec won him in davy jones fight and served as his underling - lost all special aura
4. Didnt have same portrayal Garp and Roger had - it appears he was only equal to sick Roger
5. Dumb as fuck for not realising Xebec is not himself and for leaving his captain in moments he needed him the most - utter demolition of his character
I had huge respect for him and Fujitora as characters seems Fujitora is my only hope now.