General & Others Young Kaido clashed with Prime WB and Roger confirmed

[ZenZu]

Himchoku = Hanzo the salamander

Lmfao that avatar. Harald is such a cuck 🤣

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Reminder, yonko fans always used the argument if admirals were as strong as yonko, they would've beaten them a long time ago
What the excuse for Kaido and BM not taking back THE Pirates Island and boost their status as true Xebec's successor?

Tbh Ochoku looks about as old as Whitebeard. It’s possible that Blackbeard needed all that help to defeat way out of prime Ochoku

 

[Kurozumi Wiwi]

Tbh Ochoku looks about as old as Whitebeard. It’s possible that Blackbeard needed all that help to defeat way out of prime Ochoku

And they said Whiki being next to him was a L

 

[MonsterKaido]

Thats just possible explanation , Roger and WB only meet for first 12 years after God valley so why you find it hard to believe that he didnt fight Garp in his last 5 years of voyage ?

Also you are the one with headcanon my friend , you call it confirmed that Kaido fought WB and Roger while manga never directly said that .

Again this is your headcanon. Nothing says garp didn't fought roger post buggy join. You are making a claim so burden of proof false on you bro.

Its canon that Kaido fought yonkos based on his intro.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

And they said Whiki being next to him was a L

He could legit have been a yonko level fighter who just had no interest in expanding his territory

 

[MarineHQ]

He could legit have been a yonko level fighter who just had no interest in expanding his territory

That's the reason he didn't become a Yonkou. He just had pirate island, nothing more. This is way more impressive because he likely didn't have tens of thousands of forces and a huge fleet since he would barely be active on sea.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

That's the reason he didn't become a Yonkou. He just had pirate island, nothing more. This is way more impressive because he likely didn't have tens of thousands of forces and a huge fleet since he would barely be active on sea.

Dude just wanted his money

 

[Djordje]

Again this is your headcanon. Nothing says garp didn't fought roger post buggy join. You are making a claim so burden of proof false on you bro.

Its canon that Kaido fought yonkos based on his intro.

Nothing also says he did , manga fact is Buggy only mentions WB as only person who fought Roger to standstill , even if he fought Garp when Buggy was there it was not to the point of standstill because Buggy would include him too.

Yes its also canon Kaido had 7 L as pirate so he lost those clashes you mention, seeing how there are only handful of character capable of defeating Kaido .

 

[MarineHQ]

Dude just wanted his money

Nah seriously, that's kinda wild. The new world was left totally for the pirates to rule before Sakazuki became FA and even Saint Shanks becoming an emperor didn't threaten Old Ochoku's standing for another 4 years.

 

[MonsterKaido]

Nothing also says he did , manga fact is Buggy only mentions WB as only person who fought Roger to standstill , even if he fought Garp when Buggy was there it was not to the point of standstill because Buggy would include him too.

Yes its also canon Kaido had 7 L as pirate so he lost those clashes you mention, seeing how there are only handful of character capable of defeating Kaido .

You made a claim and failed to bring proof. Concession accepted.

In his flashback his Ls are attributed to him being captured on purpose for food.

 

[Djordje]

You made a claim and failed to bring proof. Concession accepted.

In his flashback his Ls are attributed to him being captured on purpose for food.

YOu created a thread called it confirmed without bringing actual proof , thread failed as excepted.

His L are separated from how many times he was caught by navy and those cases are hinted to be for purpose for food not his loses. Re read manga again.

 

[MonsterKaido]

YOu created a thread called it confirmed without bringing actual proof , thread failed as excepted.

His L are separated from how many times he was caught by navy and those cases are hinted to be for purpose for food not his loses. Re read manga again.

Whatever helps you sleep at night bro.

 

[Djordje]

Whatever helps you sleep at night bro.

Where is actual proof that confirms Kaido faced Roger / WB , this new chapter never mentiones that directly ?

 

[ZenZu]

You made a claim and failed to bring proof. Concession accepted.

In his flashback his Ls are attributed to him being captured on purpose for food.

That's not how it works. You made the positive claim not him. You have to prove it because Djordje has already shown that there is nothing contradictory with what Buggy said as it pertains to Garp. Nothing in the story claims that Garp fought Roger in his final 5 years. You are claiming he did. So you have to prove it.

 

[MonsterKaido]

That's not how it works. You made the positive claim not him. You have to prove it because Djordje has already shown that there is nothing contradictory with what Buggy said as it pertains to Garp. Nothing in the story claims that Garp fought Roger in his final 5 years. You are claiming he did. So you have to prove it.

I made a claim which is in manga aka Roger saying he and garp fought and came close to killing each other multiple times. This is manga fact. Its him who is making a statement which has no basis lol

 

[ZenZu]

I made a claim which is in manga aka Roger saying he and garp fought and came close to killing each other multiple times. This is manga fact. Its him who is making a statement which has no basis lol

No you are claiming that entails the final 5 years. You have to prove that, not him. He simply presented how there is nothing contradictory in the two statements as long as Garp never fought Roger when Buggy was around. Roger had been an active Pirate for decades, Garp and Roger had plenty of time to almost kill each other throughout their careers.

The claim is on you to prove that for a fact Garp had to have fought Roger in Buggy's presence in the final 5 years.

 

[MonsterKaido]

No you are claiming that entails the final 5 years. You have to prove that, not him. He simply presented how there is nothing contradictory in the two statements as long as Garp never fought Roger when Buggy was around. Roger had been an active Pirate for decades, Garp and Roger had plenty of time to almost kill each other throughout their careers.

The claim is on you to prove that for a fact Garp had to have fought Roger in Buggy's presence in the final 5 years.

I don't because roger never gave us a timeline lol. If anything it happened multiple times. Its him again who is making a distinction here based on nothing. Stop acting like a fool.

 

[ZenZu]

I don't because roger never gave us a timeline lol. If anything it happened multiple times. Its him again who is making a distinction here based on nothing. Stop acting like a fool.

Again you don't know how this works. You have to provide proof. Not him. His job was to show that a contradiction does not have to exist. As long as it's not the final 5 years, Buggy's statement can hold. You are claiming a contradiction exists hence you have to prove it.

Don't try to flip it on him. Prove it or drop your claim.

 

[MonsterKaido]

Again you don't know how this works. You have to provide proof. Not him. His job was to show that a contradiction does not have to exist. As long as it's not the final 5 years, Buggy's statement can hold. You are claiming a contradiction exists hence you have to prove it.

Don't try to flip it on him. Prove it or drop your claim.

Tomato tomato. My statement in manga fact. His statement is head canon.

 

[The DevilMaster]

Dude, forget about it, we're fighting a battle that's already won.
Kaidou is the most enviable character in the manga; the portrayal Oda gave him is envied by the entire fandom.

King 1v1, WSM, WSP, WSC, the toughest guy in the world, the strongest drunk in the world, the invincible Kaido, the personification of strength.

That's surreal for just one character; Oda added everything that came to mind to create hype and build the portrait of the greatest individual monster in terms of strength.