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[Ravagerblade]

UK: A Brit posted photo of him holding a shotgun while on holiday in Florida, when he returned home UK police arrested him, seized his devices, jailed him overnight for violating the 1986 Public Order Act. The process was the punishment.

After sharing a photo of himself posing with a legally possessed shotgun at a Florida shooting range, a British man was arrested, locked in a cell overnight, interrogated, and lectured that he “must understand how posts make people feel.” Police seized his computer and phone, wiping out his ability to work. Weeks later, all charges were quietly dropped because they were baseless from the start. Critics say the ordeal proves the UK has turned social media into a surveillance trap where innocent people are punished by process alone

This is what Leftists want, The real Fascists.

 

[Logiko]

This is what Leftists want, The real Fascists.

 

[Zenos7]

This is what Leftists want, The real Fascists.

you watch more than the liberal hivemind channel?

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white supremacist

 

[Daniel]

Posting the article for this before it gets deleted or gets hit with a paywall

An IT consultant was arrested by police in Britain after he posted a picture online of himself posing with a gun in the US.

Jon Richelieu-Booth said he was shocked by the “Orwellian” decision by West Yorkshire Police (WYP) to prosecute him over the social media post.

The 50-year-old said that on Aug 13 he had posted a picture of himself on LinkedIn holding a shotgun while on a private homestead with friends during a holiday in Florida.

Mr Richelieu-Booth claims the LinkedIn message contained nothing he considered threatening, with the picture attached to a lengthy post about his day and work activities.

However, he said that a police officer later visited his home to warn him that concerns had been raised about the post.

“I was told to be careful what I say online and I need to understand how it makes people feel,” he said.

Mr Richelieu-Booth said he offered to provide officers with proof that the picture of the firearm had been taken while he was in the US but the officers said that was not necessary.

Mr Richelieu-Booth said two officers then returned to his home shortly after 10pm on Aug 24 and arrested him.

A bail document seen by The Telegraph refers to an allegation of possessing a firearm with intent to cause fear of violence and a further allegation of stalking related to a photograph of a house that appeared on his social media.

He said he was held overnight in a cell before being interviewed.

Mr Richelieu-Booth said he was initially released on bail until late October.

He alleges that police officers then visited his property on three further occasions before he was re-arrested in October for allegedly breaching his bail conditions. However, that charge was later dropped.

Public order offence
The firearms and stalking allegations were also dropped but Mr Richelieu-Booth was charged with a public order offence relating to a different social media post.

He claims not to know which post he was being charged in relation to and does not recall being questioned by police about any specific post made on that date.

He had been due to appear at Bradford magistrates’ court on Nov 25 charged with an offence of displaying “any writing/sign/visible representation with intent to cause harassment/alarm or distress”. However, that charge was also later dropped, he said.

Unable to work
Mr Richelieu-Booth claimed he has been left unable to do his job as a self-employed IT contractor because the force seized his phone and computers.

Describing his ordeal as “massive overreach”, Mr Richelieu-Booth added: “Anybody should be allowed to say anything they wish, as long as it’s not hateful.

“When did we go from a society where you can have a discussion with somebody and go, ‘You know what? I don’t like your opinion. I’m going to disagree with you, but I’m not going to tell you why, I’m going to call the police’.

“When did we get so thin-skinned as a society?”

He said: “I’ve always believed in truth and justice and stood up for the police and believed they are doing an important job of keeping order. Now I have no faith in the police.”

Mr Richelieu-Booth said he was considering making a formal complaint against WYP.

“I will be filing a case against the police, I have been put through 13 weeks of hell and I will be seeking quite a lot of damages,” Mr Richelieu-Booth said.

A West Yorkshire Police spokesman said: “Police received a complaint of stalking involving serious alarm or distress, relating partly to social media posts, several of which included pictures of a male posing with a variety of firearms which the complainant took to be a threat.

“Police investigated and charged a man with a public order offence but the case was then discontinued by the CPS.”

 

[Uncle Van]

This is what Leftists want, The real Fascists.

Leftist can't be fascist by definition.

 

[Mathias]

Conservatives reaction : WAKE UP Britons ! Keir Starmer is behind this !


Reality : Cops vs a jet lag

 

[Ravagerblade]

Leftist can't be fascist by definition.

I don't really care what you have to say, It matters little. The left have been very Authoritative, Don't you turn a blind eye to everything they've done in recent years.

 

[Uncle Van]

I don't really care what you have to say, It matters little.

Irrelevant. You said something that is wrong by definition.

The left have been very Authoritative,

Which isn't fascism by definition

Don't you turn a blind eye to everything they've done in recent years.

What does assuming someone is "turning a blind eye" got to do with terms being used incorrectly by definition?

 

[Monkey D Theories]

the fact that Obama is advocating for an ethnonationalist, white supremacist and fundamentally fascist ideology is a problem.

How did Obama advocate for any of these things?

 

[Logiko]

How did Obama advocate for any of these things?

Supporting Israel, Supporting the US's imperialism, supporting capitalist politics etc. He did it through politics. Supporting white supremacy sociologically doesn't necessarily mean sayin "I hate black people". White supremacy is a system of domination first. It's linked to many sub systems and political methods or ideologies. Even democrats ones. Especially democrat ones.

 

[Monkey D Theories]

I'm sorry, but you are completely biased on the question. You have been ignoring MAJOR problems for a long time now. Zionism is like Nazism, not only in ideology but also in practice. The only difference at the moment is the fact that Zionism is still restricted by the territory, by the social pressure of the world and by the resources, but the comparison is solid and stands on real data.

“Zionism” is a catch all term for a broad range of ideologies concerning the creation of a Jewish state in the levant.

Nazism is an explicitly fascist movement

It’s an apples to oranges comparison that you are only making because it’s politically convenient to you.

just for example, there are schools of Zionist thought that are socialist: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labor_Zionism

is that also “Nazism”? This is inane

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Supporting Israel, Supporting the US's imperialism, supporting capitalist politics etc. He did it through politics. Supporting white supremacy sociologically doesn't necessarily mean sayin "I hate black people". White supremacy is a system of domination first. It's linked to many sub systems and political methods or ideologies. Even democrats ones. Especially democrat ones.

The way you talk about these things just seems to lack nuance

 

[Logiko]

“Zionism” is a catch all term for a broad range of ideologies concerning the creation of a Jewish state in the levant.

Nazism is an explicitly fascist movement

It’s an apples to oranges comparison that you are only making because it’s politically convenient to you.

just for example, there are schools of Zionist thought that are socialist: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labor_Zionism

is that also “Nazism”? This is inane

No, the insanity is the fact of trying to defend zionism in the middle of a genocide resulting of this ideology. Zionism became Nazism, not because, it was nazism but because it has the ingredients ideologically. Again, ethnonationalism is a form of fascism by nature. Like it or not. What zionism is now can be compared to nazism

The way you talk about these things just seems to lack nuance

You don't need nuance on every subjects. We are witnessing a genocide because of zionism and imperialism. It's not the time for nuances. (this, is, in itself, a nuance. The fact of always requesting nuance is not a nuanced opinion, it's fake rationnalism and ethics).

 

[AverageBuggyEnjoyer]

What are "Conservatives" trying to conserve at this point? I'm not even trolling, I just want them to restate their declared objective out loud, as maybe that'll help them realize how retarded the current Trump administration is

 

[Ravagerblade]

Irrelevant. You said something that is wrong by definition.



Which isn't fascism by definition



What does assuming someone is "turning a blind eye" got to do with terms being used incorrectly by definition?

No, what you're trying to imply is that the left cannot, by definition by Authoritative, Which is wrong by how they act. You are hiding behind definitions. Very C4N like, snake ish. They try to remake definitions to suit their agenda.
They are Authoritative, just not Nationalistic. I'll call them Fascist in name, Does that make you feel better? smh.

Supression of Opposition, also something they do.

 

[Monkey D Theories]

No, the insanity is the fact of trying to defend zionism in the middle of a genocide resulting of this ideology. Zionism became Nazism, not because, it was nazism but because it has the ingredients ideologically. Again, ethnonationalism is a form of fascism by nature. Like it or not. What zionism is now can be compared to nazism



You don't need nuance on every subjects. We are witnessing a genocide because of zionism and imperialism. It's not the time for nuances. (this, is, in itself, a nuance. The fact of always requesting nuance is not a nuanced opinion, it's fake rationnalism and ethics).

you don’t understand what Zionism is. It’s not a singular ideology, it’s a nationalist movement that has many different schools of thought.

Yes some types of Zionism can be compared to Nazism.

But that’s far from every Zionist

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https://www.timesofisrael.com/j-str...inced-israel-committing-genocide-in-gaza/amp/

this guy is a Zionist and acknowledges Israel is committing a genocide in Gaza, and condemns said actions.

Is he still a Nazi?

 

[Ravagerblade]

you don’t understand what Zionism is. It’s not a singular ideology, it’s a nationalist movement that has many different schools of thought.

Yes some types of Zionism can be compared to Nazism.

But that’s far from every Zionist

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https://www.timesofisrael.com/j-str...inced-israel-committing-genocide-in-gaza/amp/

this guy is a Zionist and acknowledges Israel is committing a genocide in Gaza, and condemns said actions.

Is he still a Nazi?

I think what would be best for everyone is for the PM to step down and allow somebody else to run Israel, perhaps someone more moderate.

 

[Logiko]

No, what you're trying to imply is that the left cannot, by definition by Authoritative, Which is wrong by how they act. You are hiding behind definitions. Very C4N like, snake ish. They try to remake definitions to suit their agenda.
They are Authoritative, just not Nationalistic. I'll call them Fascist in name, Does that make you feel better? smh.

Supression of Opposition, also something they do.

You must never have lived real authoritarianism to say something like that.

Hope that it doesn't catch you

What are "Conservatives" trying to conserve at this point? I'm not even trolling, I just want them to restate their declared objective out loud, as maybe that'll help them realize how retarded the current Trump administration is

Their own interests and place in the hierarchy of class, gender and race.

 

[Logiko]

you don’t understand what Zionism is. It’s not a singular ideology, it’s a nationalist movement that has many different schools of thought.

Yes some types of Zionism can be compared to Nazism.

But that’s far from every Zionist

I don't Fucking care if Zionism was a buddhist relaxation method 300 years ago, I only care how it is applied as a system NOW. Simply because this is what people are facing at the moment and what zionist are defending.

By nature, ethnonationalism is fascism and colonialism. You don't like that? Accept it, because I won't budge.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/j-str...inced-israel-committing-genocide-in-gaza/amp/

this guy is a Zionist and acknowledges Israel is committing a genocide in Gaza, and condemns said actions.

Is he still a Nazi?

No, just a colonist.

 

[AverageBuggyEnjoyer]

Their own interests and place in the hierarchy of class, gender and race.

No that's the reality of every politician. I'm asking them to just write out the stated goal (as in what they lie about to the public but some here actually still believe them lol)

 

[Logiko]

No that's the reality of every politician. I'm asking them to just write out the stated goal (as in what they lie about to the public but some here actually still believe them lol)

That's the big scam.. Most politician believe in their own BS.

They are just acting for their own interest first. But they make themselve believe that maintaining these interest will create peace. As such, the first "victim" of their lie are themselves.