General & Others Next Straw Hat Crew Members and the Grand Fleet
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- Tags #c4ng2g carrot fans are still losers carrot haters are real losers seethe at the rabbit carrot is doing nothing because she doesn't matter carrot will never join the straw hats carrot's story never even began cry about carrot everyone else in the verse neg diffs the bunny imagine thinking stussy won't join its over furry bros keep the bunny on zou nobody else needs her let it go furry bros momo is breeding yamato no character is less relevant than carrot oden larper fans can't read stussy > carrot & yamato stussy supremacy who will be the next nakama of the week? yamato always had a better chance than carrot yamato story is over
Zoro and Sanji fans just want Loki to upscale their favorites, that’s why they want him to join. There’s a high chance that current Loki is already above prime Ray and Gaban LMAOO. This guy is not joining, period.
A real Loki fan wouldn’t even want him to join either. Oda would just sideline him for the rest of the story and quickly water him down. Ally Piece is where the money’s at.
A real Loki fan wouldn’t even want him to join either. Oda would just sideline him for the rest of the story and quickly water him down. Ally Piece is where the money’s at.
Loki has no bearing on how high Zoro and Sanji scale, Luffy does, so whether he joins or not is irrelevant to that.
Only folks that will take Ls are the ones that have him god tier
.Will be funny as hell to see the mental gymanstics y'all play to get urselves outta of that one
Moroever not sure what gives you the divine right to determine who a true Loki fan is
Don't know maybe just maybe some of us really like his character and want him to join coz of that.
Anyways on this Loki for Nakama ting I'm curious what the lads that think Loki doesn't join think his good ending is going to be, coz the only way he stays on Elbaph is if the truth about Aurust Castle is revealed but doing that will plummet Harald's legacy. Given his past he needs a bit happiness and the only way I see that atm is 1.) the misunderstanding on Elbaph is addressed or 2.) him joining the SHs.
Loki has no bearing on how high Zoro and Sanji scale, Luffy does, so whether he joins or not is irrelevant to that.
Only folks that will take Ls are the ones that have him god tier.
Will be funny as hell to see the mental gymanstics y'all play to get urselves outta of that one
Moroever not sure what gives you the divine right to determine who a true Loki fan is
Don't know maybe just maybe some of us really like his character and want him to join coz of that.
Anyways on this Loki for Nakama ting I'm curious what the lads that think Loki doesn't join think his good ending is going to be, coz the only way he stays on Elbaph is if the truth about Aurust Castle is revealed but doing that will plummet Harald's legacy. Given his past he needs a bit happiness and the only way I see that atm is 1.) the misunderstanding on Elbaph is addressed or 2.) him joining the SHs.
Only folks that will take Ls are the ones that have him god tier
.Will be funny as hell to see the mental gymanstics y'all play to get urselves outta of that one
Moroever not sure what gives you the divine right to determine who a true Loki fan is
Don't know maybe just maybe some of us really like his character and want him to join coz of that.
Anyways on this Loki for Nakama ting I'm curious what the lads that think Loki doesn't join think his good ending is going to be, coz the only way he stays on Elbaph is if the truth about Aurust Castle is revealed but doing that will plummet Harald's legacy. Given his past he needs a bit happiness and the only way I see that atm is 1.) the misunderstanding on Elbaph is addressed or 2.) him joining the SHs.
Being integrated into the crew is honestly a disservice at this point. Just look at what happened to Jinbe. He got dumbed down and lost a lot of substance. Oda doesn’t know what to do with him, he literally made him carry boxes throughout Egghead. He also made Jimbo the official driver of the ship, a job that is completely useless and obsolete. At this stage of the story, Oda mostly uses the crew for gags, and side quests lol. If Jimbo sticks out like a sore thumb, just wait until Oda forces Loki into this dynamic lol.
Loki has plenty of things he can do on his own, rallying up the Galleila giants is the main thing and the Harald situation will probably get cleared up.
Why not lol? The story doesn´t revolve around Zoro and Sanji, if Oda wants to make a character stronger then them in the SHP, nothing is stopping him. He arguably did that with the og chicken wings and Oden, and definitely did it in a crew the strawhats will be fighting, with Kuzan joining.
Yeah, but while Oda´s timeframe is always off, he did say the SHP are going to Lodestar/laughtale next, so the adventure part of the story is pretty much over. The Strawhats will need to fight Imu and the world government soon, which Loki will participate in anyway, so is there really an issue with him getting a ride with the crew?
If Oda is going to have someone unfreeze the giants, you don´t think he´s want to do it on screen with the SHP around?
Yeah, but while Oda´s timeframe is always off, he did say the SHP are going to Lodestar/laughtale next, so the adventure part of the story is pretty much over. The Strawhats will need to fight Imu and the world government soon, which Loki will participate in anyway, so is there really an issue with him getting a ride with the crew?
If Oda is going to have someone unfreeze the giants, you don´t think he´s want to do it on screen with the SHP around?
On this topic, I’m not gonna lie, I wouldn’t be surprised if it was a squirrel 😂
Oda is obsessed with subverting expectations and everybody at this point either thinks it’s going to be a Fenrir or a Nihogg so it might be something entirely different.
For each case, there is a cover page that might hint at it both and Kiringham’s nightmares for both monsters have their tongues out. Then there’s the argument for Loki being in chains being Fenrir like or the squirrel hinting at Nidhogg. Currently I think the stronger argument is for the nidhogg for a variety of reasons. 1.) the width of its legs matches that of the dragon Oda drew on the rpg cover page 2.) the kanji for kiringham’s nightmare nidhogg is 電竜 (Electric Dragon) which would explain Loki’s ability to use electricity 3.) being a dragon that can fly Loki doesn’t need to board the ship. He can just fly over it.
My issue with the Nidhogg however is that it is too bloody obvious which is very unlike Oda.
So honestly think he’s baiting us lol
Back to the squirrel argument though, in the first place ratstoskr and Nidhogg in Norse mythology are not on good terms so the notion that both are partners of sorts is odd in which case ratatoskr might be a mislead and it’s just a bloody squirrel lol
Next, one argument that I thought of that hasn’t been explored yet is Ratstoskr being a messenger that traverse the world tree so basically between Asgard and Nifelim so in order words life & death. Can see Oda potentially utilizing that concept as a base for ratstoskr’s abilities to be able to interfere with life/death thus being able to kill immortals.
Reason being that whether it’s the Fenrir of the Nidhogg. I can’t really see a specific reason for why Rocks thought it was necessary for his plans to topple Imu. I mean both are strong but how is it any different from Kaido’s DF for example. If said DF had the ability to kill immortals though then it’d make sense why it’s so valuable coz just CoC ain’t killing Imu who is probably an immortal in the very sense of the word.
Oda is obsessed with subverting expectations and everybody at this point either thinks it’s going to be a Fenrir or a Nihogg so it might be something entirely different.
For each case, there is a cover page that might hint at it both and Kiringham’s nightmares for both monsters have their tongues out. Then there’s the argument for Loki being in chains being Fenrir like or the squirrel hinting at Nidhogg. Currently I think the stronger argument is for the nidhogg for a variety of reasons. 1.) the width of its legs matches that of the dragon Oda drew on the rpg cover page 2.) the kanji for kiringham’s nightmare nidhogg is 電竜 (Electric Dragon) which would explain Loki’s ability to use electricity 3.) being a dragon that can fly Loki doesn’t need to board the ship. He can just fly over it.
My issue with the Nidhogg however is that it is too bloody obvious which is very unlike Oda.
So honestly think he’s baiting us lol
Back to the squirrel argument though, in the first place ratstoskr and Nidhogg in Norse mythology are not on good terms so the notion that both are partners of sorts is odd in which case ratatoskr might be a mislead and it’s just a bloody squirrel lol
Next, one argument that I thought of that hasn’t been explored yet is Ratstoskr being a messenger that traverse the world tree so basically between Asgard and Nifelim so in order words life & death. Can see Oda potentially utilizing that concept as a base for ratstoskr’s abilities to be able to interfere with life/death thus being able to kill immortals.
Reason being that whether it’s the Fenrir of the Nidhogg. I can’t really see a specific reason for why Rocks thought it was necessary for his plans to topple Imu. I mean both are strong but how is it any different from Kaido’s DF for example. If said DF had the ability to kill immortals though then it’d make sense why it’s so valuable coz just CoC ain’t killing Imu who is probably an immortal in the very sense of the word.
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Oda can’t even let Jimbo or Yamato join for that very reason lol. Plus, Loki is arguably stronger than even Luffy, and people still seem to ignore that Oda explicitly established him as nerfed for the rest of the arc. On top of that, Loki killed an amped Harald and made Gaban and Shanks look like chumps.
I genuinely don’t know if Zoro or Sanji is even beating someone on the level of a fully juiced Harald. Their next major opponents already point toward fighters like Shiryu, not monsters of that caliber. And there’s no real narrative path for Kuzan versus Loki either. Kuzan is clearly being set up to fall to Koby, the groundwork for that has already been laid out. Kuzan is not even a real BBP btw, I’m still not convinced lol. Just recall Kuzan’s words to Smoker in Punk Hazard.
I genuinely don’t know if Zoro or Sanji is even beating someone on the level of a fully juiced Harald. Their next major opponents already point toward fighters like Shiryu, not monsters of that caliber. And there’s no real narrative path for Kuzan versus Loki either. Kuzan is clearly being set up to fall to Koby, the groundwork for that has already been laid out. Kuzan is not even a real BBP btw, I’m still not convinced lol. Just recall Kuzan’s words to Smoker in Punk Hazard.
If we go by linear power scaling, Loki is the strongest in the verse besides Imu lol.
Domi Xebec~HK Harald>Xebec>Roger=Garp=WB>Kaido>/~BM. If we assume Roger-Garp-WB got stronger(since Kaido abd BM were stated to have gotten way stronger), then PK Roger>/~Xebec, but he aint taking GV Roger and Garp at the same time.
Seeing how some push Loki to be above HK Harald cause of the last chapter, Loki is way stronger than even Luffy. Ain't no way Oda is having someone stronger than Zoro and Sanji join the crew let alone LUFFY lol.
Better hope Oda is just not giving a damn about how the scaling looks.
Domi Xebec~HK Harald>Xebec>Roger=Garp=WB>Kaido>/~BM. If we assume Roger-Garp-WB got stronger(since Kaido abd BM were stated to have gotten way stronger), then PK Roger>/~Xebec, but he aint taking GV Roger and Garp at the same time.
Seeing how some push Loki to be above HK Harald cause of the last chapter, Loki is way stronger than even Luffy. Ain't no way Oda is having someone stronger than Zoro and Sanji join the crew let alone LUFFY lol.
Better hope Oda is just not giving a damn about how the scaling looks.
Unless Oda finds a hack.
His devil fruit might have the power reverse Imu powers. Xebec said he absolutely needed that fruit alongside the other. It's like Natural counter of Imu devil fruit.
But against normal opponent it won't do much. But again Only conqueror coating Loki is strong but I'll still place that Loki below Luffy.
What Loki did is like Luffy getting a free Bajrang gun shot any opponent who is smiling and not defending.
His devil fruit might have the power reverse Imu powers. Xebec said he absolutely needed that fruit alongside the other. It's like Natural counter of Imu devil fruit.
But against normal opponent it won't do much. But again Only conqueror coating Loki is strong but I'll still place that Loki below Luffy.
What Loki did is like Luffy getting a free Bajrang gun shot any opponent who is smiling and not defending.
I don't think he does to be honest and there is precedent for this.
Would be interesting if Loki is indeed that strong as we'd have another legendary figure of the same ilk as Nika and Davy Jones but there hasn't really been any indication of that from the narrative. Rocks statement to Imu was who do you fear more "Nika" or "Davy Jones" so more likely than not these are the only other two god tiers other than Imu. Even the Giants and Loki himself are Nika admirers. So narrative weight-wise, Nika > Elbaf's legendary DF.
So yh other than another Nika, Davy Jones type reveal, I can't really see a narrative justification for him being that strong even when more so when you consider that this mofo is still growing lol
I think as opposed to a Nika or a Davy Jones, Loki will prolly fit more into that Shirahoshi category but we'll see.
Would be interesting if Loki is indeed that strong as we'd have another legendary figure of the same ilk as Nika and Davy Jones but there hasn't really been any indication of that from the narrative. Rocks statement to Imu was who do you fear more "Nika" or "Davy Jones" so more likely than not these are the only other two god tiers other than Imu. Even the Giants and Loki himself are Nika admirers. So narrative weight-wise, Nika > Elbaf's legendary DF.
So yh other than another Nika, Davy Jones type reveal, I can't really see a narrative justification for him being that strong even when more so when you consider that this mofo is still growing lol
I think as opposed to a Nika or a Davy Jones, Loki will prolly fit more into that Shirahoshi category but we'll see.