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What will be Loki next power ?


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I have a hard time believing No Amp Saturn ~ Xebec.

We kinda already saw what Xebec did to Saturn's replacement. So yea lol....I'd say that's good enough reason to say Harald is a bigger deal than the Gorosei.
Shouldn’t all the Gorosei be Hakimen? Their Yokai forms seem to be a result of the Abyssal Pact, meaning they had no DFs when they were mere HKs. Imu isn’t just picking any random HK to become an Elder, so their Haki must have been pretty powerful
 
Nah if he was free to roam the world he would have the highest bounty, he's not the type to sit in his territory doing nothing like the Yonkos, my man went after the WG straight after killing Harald he would've been the worst pirate roaming the sea imho
We don’t know what he was doing nor when he decided to really make his move and attack Mary Geoise. There were lulls in his journey, he even met Lola and Big Mom.
 

ZenZu

The only one who can beat me is me
Idk about the non amp versions but lets focus on amped ones. They are techically the same.
Also, dont forget context, Garling did not display aCoC back in GV, same treatment Roger gave to Oden is the same situation.
It means nothing. Conqueror with infusion trashing those without infusion is nothing unusual.
Well that's the entire point of comparison. How they fare before amps.

The non amped version of Harald is on par with the very best of his era. Xebec. I cannot say the same for the Gorosei. Between how unimpressive Saturn was, and how his replacement got portrayed like a fodder to Xebec, there's your reason for why Harald is treated differently.
 

Fujishiro

Its going to be daijobu.
Well that's the entire point of comparison. How they fare before amps.

The non amped version of Harald is on par with the very best of his era. Xebec. I cannot say the same for the Gorosei. Between how unimpressive Saturn was, and how his replacement got portrayed like a fodder to Xebec, there's your reason for why Harald is treated differently.
The Abyssal Seal must be a huge boost btw.
 

nik87

Kitetsu Wanker
Well that's the entire point of comparison. How they fare before amps.

The non amped version of Harald is on par with the very best of his era. Xebec. I cannot say the same for the Gorosei. Between how unimpressive Saturn was, and how his replacement got portrayed like a fodder to Xebec, there's your reason for why Harald is treated differently.
It may be true because Elders are that, old... Harald is still in his prime while they are walking mummies.
Only Jupiter is in prime age. We will see how they will be treated in an arc where they need to actually fight instead of stalling arc like EH...

Don't forget Yamato in that handful of strongest list though.
After fighting WSC on near equal ground, she is exactly that.
 

ZenZu

The only one who can beat me is me
Shouldn’t all the Gorosei be Hakimen? Their Yokai forms seem to be a result of the Abyssal Pact, meaning they had no DFs when they were mere HKs. Imu isn’t just picking any random HK to become an Elder, so their Haki must have been pretty powerful
What does this have to do with being Xebec's near equal? Katakuri is powerful in the grand scheme of things, Gorosei can be more powerful than that.

Harald is on that "PK lvl" of power without amps.

Was Saturn even "PK lvl" with them? :kobeha:

That's the difference.
 

Fujishiro

Its going to be daijobu.
Nah if he was free to roam the world he would have the highest bounty, he's not the type to sit in his territory doing nothing like the Yonkos, my man went after the WG straight after killing Harald he would've been the worst pirate roaming the sea imho
He wouldnt have lasted long though given that he was going to go after the WG and just die, Shanks stopped him because it wasnt time yet. They needed more, like Nika amongst others.
 

Fujishiro

Its going to be daijobu.
What's that, I have no idea what the seals are. Is that the same seal the Gorosei have? What are the different kinds?
The Gorosei said that there are 3 seals.

Shallow Seal which Shanks had which seemingly gave no power boost.
Deep Seal which Harald was given and gave him a sensible power boost.
Abyssal seal which is an unknown (well we know the Elders have it but thats it), Im assuming it gives an even bigger power boost then the Deep Seal one but costs more for Imu to make. Maybe he can only make 5 at a time AkA the Elders.
 

ZenZu

The only one who can beat me is me
What part of I don't read this manga, did you not understand lol? All I know is that dude got a boost, it's a higher lvl than what Shanks had because it allows Imu to take over from anywhere. And his downfall was paralleled with Xebec's Domi.

Idk what the Gorosei have.

The Gorosei said that there are 3 seals.

Shallow Seal which Shanks had which seemingly gave no power boost.
Deep Seal which Harald was given and gave him a sensible power boost.
Abyssal seal which is an unknown (well we know the Elders have it but thats it), Im assuming it gives an even bigger power boost then the Deep Seal one but costs more for Imu to make. Maybe he can only make 5 at a time AkA the Elders.
Ah ok. So based on this, my guess is that seal is linked to the yokai powers the Gorosei have. That's probably the difference. Unless I'm missing something.
 

Fujishiro

Its going to be daijobu.
What part of I don't read this manga, did you not understand lol? All I know is that dude got a boost, it's a higher lvl than what Shanks had because it allows Imu to take over from anywhere. And his downfall was paralleled with Xebec's Domi.

Idk what the Gorosei have.



Ah ok. So based on this, my guess is that seal is linked to the yokai powers the Gorosei have. That's probably the difference. Unless I'm missing something.
Yeah their Yokai powers which should be a power boost + agelesness imo.
 
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