Controversial General Political Discussion

[Kizaruber Eats]

French are seen as more arrogant somehow which can be true or false. And also it might be influenced by Americans who believe their biggest foe in NATO are the French for many reasons for instance leaving NATO during the Iraq war. It’s not a very sociologically peer-reviewed paper take BUT it’s a quick opinion yes.

That makes sense unfortunately. The British also overtly hate the French but they love going to France and their food and women lmao. Bunch of hypocritical tsunderes. It's probably just typical xenophobia and nationalistic superiority complex but I find it weird they fixate on France so much especially.

That's interesting to know though thanks, but ironically the French were known for being extremely brave and ruthless in the past, resilient, mighty and such lol. Ironically I've seen some people make fun of France but then praise Foreign Legion too.

They're just jealous France is more culturally, artistically, culinarily etc superior and interesting.

 

[RayanOO]

Logiko and JDB both are banned for constantly insulting others for their political views

F*** y***

Based on statement I read from the French Minister - plan is detoxify France from USA technology.

Some other countries are exploring the same idea.

EU also signed FTA with India yesterday and entire trade by 2032 would be in Euros or Rupees with no trade in US Dollars

wére still a far cry from being being able to do and lets see what the real plan will be

but at least the spirit is here

 

[Kizaruber Eats]

Well, it started. France announced to shift from US video conferencing technology/platforms by 2027.

 

[AL sama]

F*** y***

 

[Mathias]

Well, it started. France announced to shift from US video conferencing technology/platforms by 2027.

Then they announced that they’ll start doing whatever this is by the time that the government and president changes

 

[Uncle Van]

I doubt it's fear tactics. It's actually a rising concern and populist demands in many of European countries to make the shift.


I read a statement of one of the Minister which said - USA warns EU of China but China never threatened to take EU territory, USA did by weaponizing Tariffs.

Well, it started. France announced to shift from US video conferencing technology/platforms by 2027.

Trump is simply making Europe speedrun their independence from America. Countries are dumping US treasuries and limiting deals on a global scale. The US is still the reverse currency, but it's smart thing for counties to prepare for a full cut off later down the line seeing how America does not respect them and is constantly trying to strong arm them into being subservient.

 

[Mathias]

I think he said fuck yeah though

 

[Midnight Delight]

Trump is simply making Europe speedrun their independence from America. Countries are dumping US treasuries and limiting deals on a global scale. The US is still the reverse currency, but it's smart thing for counties to prepare for a full cut off later down the line seeing how America does not respect them and is constantly trying to strong arm them into being subservient.

I wonder how the Tech morons who attended Trump's speech a year feel about Trump pretty much cutting off their EU customers

 

[Reborn]

Then they announced that they’ll start doing whatever this is by the time that the government and president changes

Its still a very significant geopolitical move because it's happening in background of Greenland mess and threats from Trump.

Trump is simply making Europe speedrun their independence from America. Countries are dumping US treasuries and limiting deals on a global scale. The US is still the reverse currency, but it's smart thing for counties to prepare for a full cut off later down the line seeing how America does not respect them and is constantly trying to strong arm them into being subservient.

Your clown President yesterday raised tariffs on South Korea because Korean parliament was taking time in passing the trade deal.


He's sowing seeds of mistrust with every single US ally

 

[AL sama]

I think he said fuck yeah though

don't try to defend your fellow snail-eater

 

[Uncle Van]

Its still a very significant geopolitical move because it's happening in background of Greenland mess and threats from Trump.


Your clown President yesterday raised tariffs on South Korea because Korean parliament was taking time in passing the trade deal.


He's sowing seeds of mistrust with every single US ally

Orange man wants America to be completely independent, but his idea of American independence is everyone else being completely dependent on America and being afraid to leave. Ever since he threatened taking Greenland by force, the EU and Canada had enough and China is sweeping up all the new trade deals.

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

He's sowing seeds of mistrust with every single US ally

Agent krasnov doing agent krasnov things

French are seen as more arrogant somehow which can be true or false. And also it might be influenced by Americans who believe their biggest foe in NATO are the French for many reasons for instance leaving NATO during the Iraq war. It’s not a very sociologically peer-reviewed paper take BUT it’s a quick opinion yes.

France and US go way back much longer than US and Germany (which basically didn't exist back then)
Maybe France is just REALLY disappointed?
The French - US relationship is also of a completely different nature than the German US one

I don’t want another jackass trillionaire just with a French flag

Yea this would kinda be worse to have in Europe. They might still feel inspired by the US tech feudalist and gradually establish their own corporate cities. Here's to hoping Europe can preserve its somewhat democratic spirit that is barely existent in the US and entirely absent in China.

Well, it started. France announced to shift from US video conferencing technology/platforms by 2027.

Honesty, experts have been highly critical of US hardware dependence for many years. This is a movement that's been snowballing ever since the nsa and Snowden stuff

 

[Mathias]

don't try to defend your fellow snail-eater

How dare you ? I'm a mexican-hairless eater

 

[Reborn]

Orange man wants America to be completely independent, but his idea of American independence is everyone else being completely dependent on America and being afraid to leave. Ever since he threatened taking Greenland by force, the EU and Canada had enough and China is sweeping up all the new trade deals.

I think he seriously believes US debt crisis is because US gives alot to the world and hardly gets anything.

However, his way of correcting deals to have more benefits for USA involves forcing other nations to submit to USA demands or face penalties.

His imposition of tariffs last year was already a massive blunder but Greenland? That really triggered Europeans and rightly so.

And, to make it worse, he ridiculed European nations and leaders in his Davos speech right in front of them.

He wants to Make America Great Again but he's making "Make America Gone Again" as his approach will end up escalating - shift from US dollar and shift from US led world order and could isolate USA

 

[Midnight Delight]

Biggest problem is that the EU doesn't have a Tech friendly environment

 

[CoC: Color of Clowns]

France has announced to ban/replace US global tech/ platforms

Good. Even after things clear over, we have to stop countries from gaining tech monopolies.

You give them a carrot, they'll try to copyright monster catching mechanics and act like they created it.

Everything produced in society is only possible through communal effort, so it's fucking stupid for people to be able to monopolize stuff like this.

 

[Midnight Delight]

Good. Even after things clear over, we have to stop countries from gaining tech monopolies.

The thing is
America got this kind of monopoly more from how practically it was the only country with it was possible

Let's not act like something like Facebook is inevitable if we isolate a society for 1000 years

The way early coders managed to create languages through numbers isn't that possible in a culture like Germany's or Italy's

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

Good. Even after things clear over, we have to stop countries from gaining tech monopolies.

You give them a carrot, they'll try to copyright monster catching mechanics and act like they created it.

Everything produced in society is only possible through communal effort, so it's fucking stupid for people to be able to monopolize stuff like this.

Wait till you see the corporations that patent GMO plants, bribe EU politicians to phase out mandatory gmo declaration on products, forcing GMOs on unwilling consumers and mandating that whenever a non gmo farmer's crops are accidentally cross pollinated with patented GMOs those crops can't be sold and are the property of the GMO company because they hold the patent.

Feudalism 2.0 and I don't see the violent revolution this should be provoking.
We wouldn't even need a violent revolution if only those people who are perfectly physically capable finally moved their asses.

It's not as if west European protesters would face complete mass slaughter if they were to gather by the millions and March in a peaceful protest across the continent.
They are extreme cowards that are comfortable with being subordinates.
People in more dangerous countries have infinitely more courage than these West European eternal infants.

 

[Midnight Delight]

The thing is
America got this kind of monopoly more from how practically it was the only country with it was possible

Let's not act like something like Facebook is inevitable if we isolate a society for 1000 years

The way early coders managed to create languages through numbers isn't that possible in a culture like Germany's or Italy's

In a way

You could talk about how Gun Powder was innovated in China and it barely took a century before even the Mamluks had better Gun Powder

But that's kind of irrelevant untill an effective decentralisation of the Internet , something Russia has been trying to do for a while now

 

[Kizaruber Eats]

You give them a carrot