Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1174 Spoilers Discussion
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I guess Sanji legs aren't burning hot either.
And you call me a clown. Your post is another example of poor reading comprehensive skills.
The notes said dragons, as in plural and King attack isn't a real dragon. It's nothing but flames and Zoro already had the ability to cut flames prior to fighting King. It wouldn't make any sense to say slay if it was talking about King's attack.
Zoro's flying dragon blaze scared BM and Kaido. That tells us Zoro already had the power to cause Kaido significant damage before obtaining CoC and without need to use asura mode. His asura mode attack, while he's in a severely weakened and injured state, scarred Kaido. It's reasonable to believe and makes perfect sense an attack with overwhelming CoA and CoC haki can slay dragons like Kaido with one hit.
He's the thing you're missing. Kaido greatest power is his incredibly strong and durable body. That's the part of Kaido's power that Oda hypes up the most. If you have the power to defeat his durability there goes a huge part of the battle difficulty. Loki is not as durable as Kaido. Shamrock proved that. Attacks that are very effective against Kaido durable body will be even more effective against Loki's.
And you call me a clown. Your post is another example of poor reading comprehensive skills.
The notes said dragons, as in plural and King attack isn't a real dragon. It's nothing but flames and Zoro already had the ability to cut flames prior to fighting King. It wouldn't make any sense to say slay if it was talking about King's attack.
Zoro's flying dragon blaze scared BM and Kaido. That tells us Zoro already had the power to cause Kaido significant damage before obtaining CoC and without need to use asura mode. His asura mode attack, while he's in a severely weakened and injured state, scarred Kaido. It's reasonable to believe and makes perfect sense an attack with overwhelming CoA and CoC haki can slay dragons like Kaido with one hit.
He's the thing you're missing. Kaido greatest power is his incredibly strong and durable body. That's the part of Kaido's power that Oda hypes up the most. If you have the power to defeat his durability there goes a huge part of the battle difficulty. Loki is not as durable as Kaido. Shamrock proved that. Attacks that are very effective against Kaido durable body will be even more effective against Loki's.
What's sad is you throwing a tantrum at both MonsterKaido and Levi for stating a larger and stronger dragon is stronger than the only top tier who got injured by a wing. They're just being realistic. Again, nothing bad about that. Oh, by the way, you can try to be nonchalant about this as much as you can. I already saw through your game bud. It's agenda posting over again. Stop pretending. You're just like us, lol.
Is Kaido strong as a top tier? Yes.
This does not change the fact that Loki is currently far stronger when it comes to both feats and portrayal. Kaido is the WSC? Imu already exists.
Is his mythical zoan df as hyped as Loki's? Nope.
Is base Kaido stronger than base Loki? Nope.
Is Kaido's kanabo stronger than Ragnir? Nope.
Is Kaido able to kill a HK? Nope.
BASE Loki can easily keep his own against Kaido. That's the point you fail to realise. Adding even more abilities just increases the gap even further. Like I said, it's practically game over for Kaido if Loki is even awakened.
I also don't see how Loki is relevant for Admiral fans rn? Like, this might be the case during his introduction but now it's quite obvious Loki is a monster on his own who can hardly be scaled down to any top tier rn.
Is Kaido strong as a top tier? Yes.
This does not change the fact that Loki is currently far stronger when it comes to both feats and portrayal. Kaido is the WSC? Imu already exists.
Is his mythical zoan df as hyped as Loki's? Nope.
Is base Kaido stronger than base Loki? Nope.
Is Kaido's kanabo stronger than Ragnir? Nope.
Is Kaido able to kill a HK? Nope.
BASE Loki can easily keep his own against Kaido. That's the point you fail to realise. Adding even more abilities just increases the gap even further. Like I said, it's practically game over for Kaido if Loki is even awakened.
I also don't see how Loki is relevant for Admiral fans rn? Like, this might be the case during his introduction but now it's quite obvious Loki is a monster on his own who can hardly be scaled down to any top tier rn.
Nika is simultaneously a god of liberation, destruction, and laughter because he will liberate the oppressed by destroying the “World” (aka Imu) while laughing.
It’s definitely possible that Loki’s fruit is just some important companion of Nika, but I think that would be problematic for a few reasons:
1. Powerscaling: Loki is already capable of bullying beyond PK level characters, despite not even being Awakened or fully mastering his Haki. It’s already hard enough to imagine how Luffy can reach Loki’s level, let alone become strong enough to make Loki look like his pet.
2. If we assume the the dragon and serpent in the murals were just the pets of the Sun God and Earth God, then where the fuck are the Forest God and Earth God in the mural? We see the Sun God and (likely) Sea God in the mural, so where are the other 2 Gods? And why are the pets of 2 of the Gods being depicted as equal in stature to Nika and Imu in the mural? And where is the Forest God’s and Sea God’s Hellfire Serpent / Nidhogg equivalent?
3. If Loki doesn’t have the Forest God DF, then who does? Imo the existence of the Sun God DF pretty much necessitates that the other 3 Gods that were placed on the Sun God’s level should have DFs of their own. Also, Imu clearly has a Zoan DF (Sea God DF most likely) on par with Luffy’s, so we already pretty know for a fact that one of the other 3 Gods also has a corresponding DF, making it even more likely that the other 2 should have DFs of their own. Blackbeard is the anti-Luffy and Davy Jones was placed on the same pedestal as Joyboy, so BB also having or obtaining a God DF (probably Earth God) is pretty much set in stone imo. I don’t see why the Forest God would be the only odd man out and not have a DF incarnation, so I don’t consider that a serious option
It’s definitely possible that Loki’s fruit is just some important companion of Nika, but I think that would be problematic for a few reasons:
1. Powerscaling: Loki is already capable of bullying beyond PK level characters, despite not even being Awakened or fully mastering his Haki. It’s already hard enough to imagine how Luffy can reach Loki’s level, let alone become strong enough to make Loki look like his pet.
2. If we assume the the dragon and serpent in the murals were just the pets of the Sun God and Earth God, then where the fuck are the Forest God and Earth God in the mural? We see the Sun God and (likely) Sea God in the mural, so where are the other 2 Gods? And why are the pets of 2 of the Gods being depicted as equal in stature to Nika and Imu in the mural? And where is the Forest God’s and Sea God’s Hellfire Serpent / Nidhogg equivalent?
3. If Loki doesn’t have the Forest God DF, then who does? Imo the existence of the Sun God DF pretty much necessitates that the other 3 Gods that were placed on the Sun God’s level should have DFs of their own. Also, Imu clearly has a Zoan DF (Sea God DF most likely) on par with Luffy’s, so we already pretty know for a fact that one of the other 3 Gods also has a corresponding DF, making it even more likely that the other 2 should have DFs of their own. Blackbeard is the anti-Luffy and Davy Jones was placed on the same pedestal as Joyboy, so BB also having or obtaining a God DF (probably Earth God) is pretty much set in stone imo. I don’t see why the Forest God would be the only odd man out and not have a DF incarnation, so I don’t consider that a serious option
I think anyone could defeat Domi rocks he just stands still like this crying
NOTHING IMPRESSIVE TO KILL A CRYING STANDING STILL MAN THAT WANTS TO DIE1!1!
NOTHING IMPRESSIVE TO KILL A CRYING STANDING STILL MAN THAT WANTS TO DIE1!1!
So yeah, that is impressive, unlike Garling killing defenseless Rocks which is equal to Loki killing defenseless Harald.
At this point, you have to either join Garling or Sanjuan Wolf, depending what exactly you wank here.
@SakazOuki @Elder Lee Hung @soupongo @Sentinel
Maaaaann y'all mfs best hope this dude lives up to the hype y'all putting him at, and doesn't get exposed as below even crippled Kuzan as a fighter. CAUSE IF HE DOES, I'm turning troll Demon mode on y'all when i comeback end of the year for abandoning The Great Sakazuki, The Great Issho, The Great Aramaki, The Great Borsalino, for a downgraded fake Ancient Giant who's gonna be a glorified pet for Nika.
The "Oda just a bad writer" shit ain't gone cut it.
Y'all thought that fake "Sakazuki strongest marine in history" was a tough time. OHH HELL NAH.
If it turns out he actually already clears Dragon/Shanks/Admirals/Roger/Garp going into the fight, then uhhh... have fun and see you never.
Maaaaann y'all mfs best hope this dude lives up to the hype y'all putting him at, and doesn't get exposed as below even crippled Kuzan as a fighter. CAUSE IF HE DOES, I'm turning troll Demon mode on y'all when i comeback end of the year for abandoning The Great Sakazuki, The Great Issho, The Great Aramaki, The Great Borsalino, for a downgraded fake Ancient Giant who's gonna be a glorified pet for Nika.
The "Oda just a bad writer" shit ain't gone cut it.
Y'all thought that fake "Sakazuki strongest marine in history" was a tough time. OHH HELL NAH.
If it turns out he actually already clears Dragon/Shanks/Admirals/Roger/Garp going into the fight, then uhhh... have fun and see you never.
Gaban and Shanks have a similar feat — they blitzed HK Harald multiple times and heavily wounded him, finishing the fight if he wasn't immortal. Unfortunately, they just couldn't seal the deal due to immortality, that's his point.
It'd be like saying Skypiea Luffy > Zoro + Wiper - everyone else on the island because he soloed Enel. Well duh, he was the only one who could hurt him matchup wise. That doesn't help him vs the others in a battle.
Canonically, if Gaban and Shanks could also attack Harald's soul, they would've killed him too.
It'd be like saying Skypiea Luffy > Zoro + Wiper - everyone else on the island because he soloed Enel. Well duh, he was the only one who could hurt him matchup wise. That doesn't help him vs the others in a battle.
Canonically, if Gaban and Shanks could also attack Harald's soul, they would've killed him too.
Do I have an agenda? Yes
Do I bring shitload of headcanon for it? No
Your post is full of headcanon, there is probably zero direct comparison available and yet you are stating things like they are facts.
Also where did I throw a tantrum on Levi and MonsterKaido. MK is a fraud, he shits on Mihawk whenever he can, he downscales King and he jumped ship.
Do I bring shitload of headcanon for it? No
Your post is full of headcanon, there is probably zero direct comparison available and yet you are stating things like they are facts.
Also where did I throw a tantrum on Levi and MonsterKaido. MK is a fraud, he shits on Mihawk whenever he can, he downscales King and he jumped ship.
That man has aCOC defenses up which 2 aCoC users combined barely managed to surpass.
So yeah, that is impressive, unlike Garling killing defenseless Rocks which is equal to Loki killing defenseless Harald.
At this point, you have to either join Garling or Sanjuan Wolf, depending what exactly you wank here.
So yeah, that is impressive, unlike Garling killing defenseless Rocks which is equal to Loki killing defenseless Harald.
At this point, you have to either join Garling or Sanjuan Wolf, depending what exactly you wank here.
@SakazOuki @Elder Lee Hung @soupongo @Sentinel
Maaaaann y'all mfs best hope this dude lives up to the hype y'all putting him at, and doesn't get exposed as below even crippled Kuzan as a fighter. CAUSE IF HE DOES, I'm turning troll Demon mode on y'all when i comeback end of the year for abandoning The Great Sakazuki, The Great Issho, The Great Aramaki, The Great Borsalino, for a downgraded fake Ancient Giant who's gonna be a glorified pet for Nika.
The "Oda just a bad writer" shit ain't gone cut it.
Y'all thought that fake "Sakazuki strongest marine in history" was a tough time. OHH HELL NAH.
If it turns out he actually already clears Dragon/Shanks/Admirals/Roger/Garp going into the fight, then uhhh... have fun and see you never.
Maaaaann y'all mfs best hope this dude lives up to the hype y'all putting him at, and doesn't get exposed as below even crippled Kuzan as a fighter. CAUSE IF HE DOES, I'm turning troll Demon mode on y'all when i comeback end of the year for abandoning The Great Sakazuki, The Great Issho, The Great Aramaki, The Great Borsalino, for a downgraded fake Ancient Giant who's gonna be a glorified pet for Nika.
The "Oda just a bad writer" shit ain't gone cut it.
Y'all thought that fake "Sakazuki strongest marine in history" was a tough time. OHH HELL NAH.
If it turns out he actually already clears Dragon/Shanks/Admirals/Roger/Garp going into the fight, then uhhh... have fun and see you never.
I think we all can make bets that the losers will wear whatever avatar of choice the winners give them and they have to wear it for at least 3 months.
I guess Sanji legs aren't burning hot either.
And you call me a clown. Your post is another example of poor reading comprehensive skills.
The notes said dragons, as in plural and King attack isn't a real dragon. It's nothing but flames and Zoro already had the ability to cut flames prior to fighting King. It wouldn't make any sense to say slay if it was talking about King's attack.
And you call me a clown. Your post is another example of poor reading comprehensive skills.
The notes said dragons, as in plural and King attack isn't a real dragon. It's nothing but flames and Zoro already had the ability to cut flames prior to fighting King. It wouldn't make any sense to say slay if it was talking about King's attack.
The editor comment is meaningless, it´s just a description of what happened at the end of the chapter and trying to make it sound cool. Yes, Zoro could literally kill dragons since PH, but they added the comment because he cut a ¨dragon¨ in that chapter because it sounds cool, they aren´t thinking deeply or significantly about the story at all, and the fact that they say something like ¨sanjis legs are burning hot¨ is just describing what happened in the chapter, and there´s nothing more interesting happening(as if Sanji couldn´t have burning hot legs since prior to that in the story anyway).
This is just an assumption, Loki was tied up to seastone and couldn´t defend himself, nor use his devil fruit at all. There´s literally no reason to believe any character in the series wouldn´t be injured in that situation, with the likes of Luffy nearly passing out from Seastone touching him at some point in the series.
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