Reborn

Throughout Heaven & Earth,I alone am d Honored One
the IRGC has been having generals and commanders dying left and right and the war just started so who knows
Let's see because as of now I don't think we have seen even IRGC going full throttle despite them firing drones and missiles across entire Gulf region and Israel at the same time.

Heck, just today they issued warning to escalate more if US doesn't back down.

So let's see
 
If France was a bloody dictatorship and waged war against,lets say Italy, and has wanted to erase them for 40y, then wanted to go nuclear for years, and then helped the massacre of 5000 Italians (proportionally) of them, and if they had killed ten of thousands of their own people : if Italy and USA went to war against them I don’t think i would cry one second
Yeah I generally am not for intervention but at some point it requires a super power to step into become the world police. Like wouldn't we want the same for the current palestinian situation?
 
We all want peace but the situation for the Palestine / Israel mess is quite more complicated than this Iranian thing
I'm just saying, we would want super powers to step in to stop the war and lead to a path towards peace no? That is quite literally interventionist

We also want people like BB and the rest of the Hamas leadership tried for war crimes, again literally interventionist policies
 
Iranians are not brown
Maybe I'm using it wrong indeed. If you prefer "racialized" work better. I'm just tired of using the same word that is never listened to.


but maybe, just maybe, in front of this regime, right now, with the Iranian people, there is a window for a regime change and maybe this can be for the best.
For the US, yeah. Never for the region. Intervention when it's done for economical and strategic interests is always about exploitation and extraction. Mechanically, it can NEVER be in the interest of the people or beneficial. The US wants to bring back the Shah, meaning they want to return Iran to a system for and only for US interest and a brutal one (tortures, illegal detentions, political executions..).

There is no "better" in this situation, it's an imperialist intervention allowed by racist, strategic and economical western interests. Specifically the US.

If Iran hadn’t been close to going nuclear and hadn’t had its two hands into October 7
Iran has been "weeks away close to go nuclear" for 30 YEARS!! FFS!


And WHAT IF Iran goes nuclear? Ask yourself why you consider it to be a problem. At the moment, Iran is not the one genociding the population of other countries while inviding them ! For what racist reason would Iran having the nuclear bomb be a problem when Israel - who again is currently still genociding others - is allowed to go on without restrictions on that subject? Hm?

And Iran helping Hamas? You mean the resistance against a colonist and genocidal country? Yeah... What about it?

Does this even ever work lol ?
I mean when the country don't respect them... yeah, that's kinda hard all right

:kayneshrug:

"We shouldn't apply them because they doesn't work because we don't apply them" Kinda circular don't you think?



Who believe in that anymore ?
The left and everyone who still have a bit of ethics left.


that didn’t prevent them to go into nuclear, did t prevent them to attack Israel 24/24 and participating to October 7 and didn’t prevent them to kill 40.000 of their own 1 month ago.
Can you tell me how many military bases are surrounding Iran at the moment? I just want to make sure of something.


Lol again

with China and Russia nothing will ever happen to Iran at the UN

it’s a complete dream
Then maybe it's not up to us to inverne. There is something called mutual respect and if you break that, even on international scale, there are repercussion, you can't simply invade your neighboor for oil without getting the heat that comes with it.

Should we help in stopping Iran repress its population through international sanction and commitee? Yeah.
Should we use that excuse to play the imperialist again and exploit their ressources and destroy their economy ? Heck fucking no.

Those who thinks and defend that this intervention is necessary when we KNOW the result won't save anyone and will slowly destroy the country and the region, are no different from the racist colonists from 300 years ago.

This is imperialist mindset.


it’s a complete dream
It's called ethics.


Everything is always about interests, nothing is really « pure » especially between countries
And ? This doesn't justify horrible actions.


If France was a bloody dictatorship and waged war against,lets say Italy
1. France is already fascistic
2. France is imperialist

It's not because France is waging war only on racialized people for the moment that it makes our country a peacefull one.

I mean that's what everybody has been doing for years and nothing came of it.
No. That's not what we have been doing.

If international right had been respected by the west for the last 30 years, the world would have a completely different face right now.
 
Maybe I'm using it wrong indeed. If you prefer "racialized" work better. I'm just tired of using the same word that is never listened to.
wait do you view colored people as inherently radical? LMAO


If international right had been respected by the west for the last 30 years, the world would have a completely different face right now.
You're being incoherent. The Islamic Regime of Iran has been brutal for decades and has been hit with the harshest sanctions and it hasn't stopped them. So clearly your suggestion doesnt work
 
wait do you view colored people as inherently radical? LMAO
radical ? Sorry I didn't understand your sentence.


You're being incoherent. The Islamic Regime of Iran has been brutal for decades and has been hit with the harshest sanctions and it hasn't stopped them. So clearly your suggestion doesnt work
No, I'm not the one being incoherent here. I'm not the one defending an imperialist intervention on the excuse of humanitarian help while said intervention makes 80 dead children in the day.

Perhaps it doesn't work, perhaps the strategy is not the one that should be played, but it's not for us (the west) to decide out of international bond.

Again, let me repeat it very clearly : Any kind of imperialist intervention is unethical by nature.


Lmao

you say that because you never lived in a fascist country or authoritarian
LMAO THAT'S SOOO FUNNY MAN

YOU ARE SO FUCKING RIGHT I'M AS DUMB AS A STICK

I DON'T KNOW WHAT FASCISM OMFG LMAO PTDR MDRRRR

:Rofl: :vistalaugh: :gokulaugh: :gokulaugh: :funky:




It's not like I have been the only one here warning everyone that Trump would descent into fascism while the entire thread was laughing its ass off in ignorance while explaining to me that I was - I quote - "fear mongering". And it's not like I have multiple historical and current data demonstrating fascistic tendanciess nooooooooo

F-ing liberals man..
 
Let's see because as of now I don't think we have seen even IRGC going full throttle despite them firing drones and missiles across entire Gulf region and Israel at the same time.

Heck, just today they issued warning to escalate more if US doesn't back down.

So let's see
Donnie wont back down . The media will start viewing Epstein proceeding again.

Only waiting for mid term for the Orange clown to be lame duck president .
 

Uncle Van

Monké Don't Do Taxes
What does the US congress even do bruh

They’re supposed to be the ones that declare war and levy taxes/duties/tariffs not the executive branch and the president

Literally all they do is just talk in a stern voice and then insider trade
Majority of the house and senate is GOP and Trump loyalist who lets him run amok. Dems claimed that they were briefed at all about Iran and were blindsided.

It's mostly about canceling the mid terms. The approval rating for Trump and the Republicans are super low and could lose many seats to the democrats in the mid terms. This also puts Trump at high risk of getting removed from office given how he's dangerously close to an impeachment with the current seats. He has a violated a shit ton of federal laws and attacked the constitution in his first few months alone.
 
Majority of the house and senate is GOP and Trump loyalist who lets him run amok. Dems claimed that they were briefed at all about Iran and were blindsided.

It's mostly about canceling the mid terms. The approval rating for Trump and the Republicans are super low and could lose many seats to the democrats in the mid terms. This also puts Trump at high risk of getting removed from office given how he's dangerously close to an impeachment with the current seats. He has a violated a shit ton of federal laws and attacked the constitution in his first few months alone.
Have the Mid Terms ever been cancelled
 
Moloch isn't real
Just wait until the alien component of this starts coming up, and we get proof that these religions have always been worshipping advanced beings from this planet and other planets.

I never know how to reply to posts like these, because there's definitely a real being at the core of Moloch, but most of the information we get is sketchy at best. I believe that many of the beings that are worshiped as gods exists in some capacity, but have been wildly overexagated. In some cases by the individual being worshiped as a god themselves.
 
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