Speculations Is Kid dead?
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Because the Barto club will continue to exist as a pirate crew
the kid pirates won’t. They won’t die, but they will probably end up serving Teach.
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Again if Xebec had Shiki and WB, you can’t seriously think that Janitor and Koby’s victim are the best Teach will have.
the kid pirates won’t. They won’t die, but they will probably end up serving Teach.
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Again if Xebec had Shiki and WB, you can’t seriously think that Janitor and Koby’s victim are the best Teach will have.
The thing is, Oda made it to where Imu has 13 guys that can only be defeated by conquerors.
Which makes it to where any major ally Luffy has that is a conqueror has a decent chance of playing some role in the finale.
That said at this point I could see Kid legitimately being dead. I am just doubtful as I think it would be a pretty meaningless death.
Which makes it to where any major ally Luffy has that is a conqueror has a decent chance of playing some role in the finale.
That said at this point I could see Kid legitimately being dead. I am just doubtful as I think it would be a pretty meaningless death.
Hmm
1- Luffy
2- Hancock
3- Zoro
4- Katakuri
5- Loki
6- Shanks
7- Garp
8- Rayleigh
9- Gaban
10- Yamato
11- Chinjao
12- Sengoku
Which leaves one more spot for a potential ally
Doffy- He has a axe to grind with the holy land and Luffy has been known to have temporary alliances with people that where once an enemy
Kidd- status currently unknown likely dead but if he is not then he can fill that final spot in the conquerors roster
Dragon- Hasn't been confirmed but we can speculate he has it and we already know he wants to take down the celestial dragons
Sanji- Potential to gain conquerors in the near future and one of the wings of the pirate king
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1- Luffy
2- Hancock
3- Zoro
4- Katakuri
5- Loki
6- Shanks
7- Garp
8- Rayleigh
9- Gaban
10- Yamato
11- Chinjao
12- Sengoku
Which leaves one more spot for a potential ally
Doffy- He has a axe to grind with the holy land and Luffy has been known to have temporary alliances with people that where once an enemy
Kidd- status currently unknown likely dead but if he is not then he can fill that final spot in the conquerors roster
Dragon- Hasn't been confirmed but we can speculate he has it and we already know he wants to take down the celestial dragons
Sanji- Potential to gain conquerors in the near future and one of the wings of the pirate king
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Just using wano for reference, I doubt the old legends or even the mid gens will be that important in the finale. They had decades to do something and they didn’t. The story is them waiting to pass the torch to the worst generation.
It’s like Marco in Wano. He fought Big Mom and the calamities but it was the wings and the captains that ultimately beat them.
It’s like Marco in Wano. He fought Big Mom and the calamities but it was the wings and the captains that ultimately beat them.
Unfortunately, Oda made a flashback where Rocks was looking for 2 devil fruits, and Captain Johns fruit wasn´t one of them. Even though it´s heavily implied those are the only 2 methods, I´m not going to pretend that Kidd and Law will ever have enough Haki to injure Imu, even if that´s a way to harm Imu
(it isn´t)
(it isn´t)
Rocks didn’t even know about Nika lol. Also, his goal was to completely overthrow the WG, not merely defeat one of Imu’s puppets.
In any case, Kid and Law didn’t really surpass Big Mom either, yet they won. It will be the same thing if they fight an Imu puppet. Law has a feasible route to damage Imu as Imu is hinted at having the ope ope no mi, and Kid is a confirmed CoC user.
In any case, Kid and Law didn’t really surpass Big Mom either, yet they won. It will be the same thing if they fight an Imu puppet. Law has a feasible route to damage Imu as Imu is hinted at having the ope ope no mi, and Kid is a confirmed CoC user.
Rocks not knowing about Nika isn´t particularly relevant. He does know about his ancestor Davy Jones, and how he fought Imu. He went all in on 2 special DF´s. He might have missed one, but I find it highly unlikely he wouldn´t have known about Haki as a method Davy Jones used against Imu, and just the two fruits, one of which Davy Jones wouldn´t have even had.
Imu having the Ope surgery done on him doesn´t mean Law could reverse it or do anything special to him, and Kidd´s Haki feats are not anything notable. The idea of him being stronger than 6 Advanced Haki users is just baseless.
Imu having the Ope surgery done on him doesn´t mean Law could reverse it or do anything special to him, and Kidd´s Haki feats are not anything notable. The idea of him being stronger than 6 Advanced Haki users is just baseless.
Two DFs being important to Rocks’s plan doesn’t mean they are the only ways to hurt Imu
Especially if he isn’t even using his true body. Each of the 5 gorosei can potentially be a puppet of Imu’s, and in fact Luffy is already fighting one of Imu’s puppets now with Gunko before the final war.
Rocks wanted to defeat Imu entirely, not just one of his puppets.
They are part of the worst generation, they are built up to surpass the previous generations. They are in their early 20s and already beat a yonko and earned 3 billion berry bounties.
Consider the gap between Dressrosa Law and end of Wano Law. They could likely grow just as much, if not more by the finale.
Especially if he isn’t even using his true body. Each of the 5 gorosei can potentially be a puppet of Imu’s, and in fact Luffy is already fighting one of Imu’s puppets now with Gunko before the final war.
Rocks wanted to defeat Imu entirely, not just one of his puppets.
They are part of the worst generation, they are built up to surpass the previous generations. They are in their early 20s and already beat a yonko and earned 3 billion berry bounties.
Consider the gap between Dressrosa Law and end of Wano Law. They could likely grow just as much, if not more by the finale.
I need to give my damn opinion about it.
Kid's dream was rejected by The Heavens!
Shanks, who represents a much larger concept, smashed him at the same time Blackbeard smashed Law because he also has a much larger concept associated to him.
If he's not dead, he's as good as dead because Shanks destroyed his dream (for the second time).
What the hell even was Kid's dream? Nobody knows. It's so unimportant that it's not even mentioned. As far as I know, there's no pattern for him. He was never following some great cosmic laws or anything like that.
He's not even a D member like Law is.
He's not Eustass D Kid, he's just Eustass Kid lmao
Law and Blackbeard fighting actually meant something because it was a D versus a D, but Kid just got wiped out by a fallen Holy Knight candidate.
Kid's dream was rejected by The Heavens!
Shanks, who represents a much larger concept, smashed him at the same time Blackbeard smashed Law because he also has a much larger concept associated to him.
If he's not dead, he's as good as dead because Shanks destroyed his dream (for the second time).
What the hell even was Kid's dream? Nobody knows. It's so unimportant that it's not even mentioned. As far as I know, there's no pattern for him. He was never following some great cosmic laws or anything like that.
He's not even a D member like Law is.
He's not Eustass D Kid, he's just Eustass Kid lmao
Law and Blackbeard fighting actually meant something because it was a D versus a D, but Kid just got wiped out by a fallen Holy Knight candidate.
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It heavily implies that those are the only ways to beat Imu based on Rocks´s statements, but it´s not an outright confirmation. The fact that Oda didn´t have him say anything about training Haki, getting Harald to train his haki, nor his subordinates tells us enough, sometimes the omission of something is more than enough.
Despite what people have headcanon´d themselves into believing, Imu´s vessals have never been stated to be like, 5 tiers below him.
Yes, Luffy is fighting Gunkimu, with the help of Loki, who has one of the 2 fruits.
Nah, The majority of the worstgeneration won´t be surpassing anyone, they´re just the most chaotic. Oda wasn´t even comfortable having Kidd or Law win 1v1´s against Big Mom for a reason.
They can double or even tripple in strength, and they´re not suddenly going to have haki that scales above 5 ACOC users, and even if they did, Oda is only really implying you can fight Imu with special DFs, so it doesn´t even matter.
Despite what people have headcanon´d themselves into believing, Imu´s vessals have never been stated to be like, 5 tiers below him.
Yes, Luffy is fighting Gunkimu, with the help of Loki, who has one of the 2 fruits.
Nah, The majority of the worstgeneration won´t be surpassing anyone, they´re just the most chaotic. Oda wasn´t even comfortable having Kidd or Law win 1v1´s against Big Mom for a reason.
They can double or even tripple in strength, and they´re not suddenly going to have haki that scales above 5 ACOC users, and even if they did, Oda is only really implying you can fight Imu with special DFs, so it doesn´t even matter.