Controversial General Political Discussion

[Midnight Delight]

@Midnight Delight did you see the Qatar helicopter that went down? The IRGC took credit for it but turns out there were Turkish military in it lmao.

Will the Watermelon Merchant say anyt

 

[Zenos7]

Right, that’s what his teachings were ACTUALLY bout….

 

[Reborn]

Why does it need to come from nothing?

I think people simply don't understand what nothing means in this context

 

[Jesse Pinkman]

@Midnight Delight did you see the Qatar helicopter that went down? The IRGC took credit for it but turns out there were Turkish military in it lmao.

If Erdogan enters this war , IRGC could be cooked . Turkish military is on another level.

 

[MonochromeYoru]

It's just not reasonable because we know he's always wanted to do it, and he was already unpopular prior to the files. It doesn't track

"we know he always wanted to do it"

as reborn said, he somehow didn't do it for 5 whole years even tho he always wanted to do it

and just as some insane shit about him were coming out from the files, suddenly he's ready to do it

Coincidences can happen, not everything is some grand conspiracy lmao

pushing it aside as mere coincidence is exactly how they get away with this lol

The ICE stuff was already tanking their polling, I find it hard to believe "distractions" will take away from an already unpopular presidential term.

I mean whats stopping me from saying the epstein files are a distraction from the ICE militarization?

The ICE stuff is probably way more unpopular than the epstein stuff

ice stuff was after/at the same time as the files started to come out

it's a classic strat they like. flood the zone so there's less time to react to each thing

and it seems to be working well enough

 

[Midnight Delight]

If Erdogan enters this war , IRGC could be cooked . Turkish military is on another level.

It was before Gulen
Now I am not sure

 

[Reborn]

I agree not consulting NATO and EU allies was major blunder.
I simply think Don has gone senile worst part is his neco con cults like Mark levin , Graham and Murdoch advocating him he is doing great job.

He is America's problem. If America doesn't do anything about him then we should just grab popcorns and sit tight because it's never a dull week with him in power lmao

 

[Roo]

"we know he always wanted to do it"

as reborn said, he somehow didn't do it for 5 whole years even tho he always wanted to do it

and just as some insane shit about him were coming out from the files, suddenly he's ready to do it

He literally bombed a general in the 4 years he was in office before?

Difference is he now has BB who's willing to go to war with him.

pushing it aside as mere coincidence is exactly how they get away with this lol

Get away with what? He's already tanking in polls regardless

ice stuff was after/at the same time as the files started to come out

it's a classic strat they like. flood the zone so there's less time to react to each thing

and it seems to be working well enough

You see how unhinged this mentality is? You can literally attribute the ICE stuff to a "distraction" from the epstein files lmao

I just don't think the U.S voters care that much about the files, not as much as to swing elections

 

[Roo]

If Erdogan enters this war , IRGC could be cooked . Turkish military is on another level.

Erdogan would rather die than go to a war that makes him side with Israel lmao

 

[Midnight Delight]

Erdogan would rather die than go to a war that makes him side with Israel lmao

Yet he has zero issues with Business Contracts with Israel

 

[Reborn]

Erdogan would rather die than go to a war that makes him side with Israel lmao

I guess same reason applies on why Gulf aren't being on offense.

Fighting a war alongside Israel...

 

[Jesse Pinkman]

He is America's problem. If America doesn't do anything about him then we should just grab popcorns and sit tight because it's never a dull week with him in power lmao

I think this war is more about than about Oil.

If US and Israel succeeds:

1. Putin’s infulence will reduce further in the world . Its start of downfall for him.

2. Xi can kiss his Middle kingdom dream good bye . Taiwan invasion will never happen.

3. With Iran as puppet it will make Israel - Saudi middle east hegamony .

It was never about democracy it has been through history . Netanyahu’s Genghiz khan statement was enough for me.

 

[Roo]

I guess same reason applies on why Gulf aren't being on offense.

Fighting a war alongside Israel...

UAE and Bahrain are already Israel allies, Kuwaitt by de factor is also allied. I think those countries are just waiting on the Saudis to do anything as they are the local powerhouse of the Gulf.

 

[Reborn]

I think this war is more about than about Oil.

If US and Israel succeeds:

1. Putin’s infulence will reduce further in the world . Its start of downfall for him.

2. Xi can kiss his Middle kingdom dream good bye . Taiwan invasion will never happen.

3. With Iran as puppet it will make Israel - Saudi middle east hegamony .

It was never about democracy it has been through history . Netanyahu’s Genghiz khan statement was enough for me.

I doubt Trump and BIbi are so visionary neither Russia and China influence would suffer that much.

 

[Roo]

I doubt Trump and BIbi are so visionary neither Russia and China influence would suffer that much.

The Neocon rationale in Washington is that they are destroying China's influence and I do think there's some truth to it. Venezuela, Iran and Cuba? All connected to China and Russia

 

[Reborn]

UAE and Bahrain are already Israel allies, Kuwaitt by de factor is also allied. I think those countries are just waiting on the Saudis to do anything as they are the local powerhouse of the Gulf.

Saudis would be pressured by Pakistan to not be on offense.

Their security pact is big headache for Pakistan right now who wants to avoid getting dragged into the war against Iran at any cost.

 

[Roo]

Saudis would be pressured by Pakistan to not be on offense.

Their security pact is big headache for Pakistan right now who wants to avoid getting dragged into the war against Iran at any cost.

Pakistan can just call Iran another indian proxy and call it day

 

[Reborn]

The Neocon rationale in Washington is that they are destroying China's influence and I do think there's some truth to it. Venezuela, Iran and Cuba? All connected to China and Russia

China's economic influence runs deeper and wider than these 3 nations.

 

[Jesse Pinkman]

I doubt Trump and BIbi are so visionary neither Russia and China influence would suffer that much.

Maybe . I just watch all this crazy military podcast lately lol.

I doubt this democracy and so called Regime change ever worked in Iraq and Afghanistan . Even if Iran regime is toppled whats guarantee if the newregine will be any good imagine some extremists gets hold on to power .

 

[Uncle Van]

@Reborn @Uncle Van do you fellas think there will be boots on ground in Kharg island .

No way to tell whether it will or not with absolution, but the likelihood increases as Trump gets clowned on more and loses momentum.

Trump and Israel thought the attack would be quick and easy like with Venezuela and didn't account for Iran actually having backbone.