Spoiler One Piece Chapter 989 Spoilers Discussion

[comrade]

Yes, it's obvious that current Sanji is stronger than his siblings. But that's not the point. Since there was never a fight between him and King. All that happened was that King tried hard to breach Sanji's durability, who just tried to protect Momo. So all we are comparing is, how successful was King in hurting and damaging Sanji with a free try hard hit, vs how easily Katakuri trashed Ichiji who has superior durability due to the additional exoskeleton. Not to mention that Ichiji out of all siblings has incredible damage output with his Kizaru-like lasers, just putting holes in Oden and the other Big Mom pirates, with Oven lying on the floor like trash and bleeding. Yet Katakuri wasted him.

 

[Finalbeta]

I believe Asura might have tripled Zoro's Doriki

What do you guys think?

It tastes pretty legit imo

 

[Ravagerblade]

And how you confirm Sanji isn't more durable than his siblings? As a matter of fact, Sanji has better showings as far as it concerns durability as he tanked a city busting move with 0 damage. Was it ever specified all raid suits are equally durable?

Besides BIg Mom and the customized bullets made for raid suits, Did anyone from BM pirates damage a Vinsmoke bypassing RS durability on panel?

When did Sanji tank such a thing?

The bullet's are made for the Vinsmokes; yes, but It was their skin. Big Mom had Pudding shoot Reiju to confirm it. She wasn't in the raid suit then. Katakuri neg'ed Ichiji.

 

[ShishioIsBack]

Sure, but Katakuri’s feats are also far better than Big Mom’s lol. So you have to take that into consideration too.

Whose feats are not far better than Big Mom's lol?
Zoro's feats shits on Big Moms, I mean royally shit on them

 

[Kuruka]

Sanji couldn't escape with his geppo cuz the rest of BMP have it too.

So something beyond geppo is needed which is provided by the RS.

Was oven flying?
We are talking bout aerial mobility(not speed on group or something).

Niji is way faster than anyone in BMP ?
BM catch him ...kata is faster ... Smoothie or Cracker probably.


"whether you want to achnoledge the light speed thing or not."
Welp if I do you gonna be mad lol Zoro evaded Kuma ligth Speed attacks pre TS .
Do you wanna go there ?lol

Better sword give better dmg if you Haki is Hugh enough to work with it otherwise it's useless.
Defense aspect is the same ,ones haki must be superior otherwise the sword breaks Mihawk says it.


RS dmg about increase due giving the user more speed quite simple.
The speed can't be adquired by the user alone so the RS is needed.

RS durability is not conditional dummy Swords need haki otherwise they break.

Big mom couldn’t even catch the straw hats chasing them the whole arc.
Also to say the commanders are faster than niji is head canon.
You could make an arguement for kata though but he’s mainly shown reaction speed not running.

Reaction speed is different than running speed.
Also are you arguing that a no name sword is just as good as wado or Emma? All it takes is a little haki lmao?
Then why did Mihawk break all zoros swords except for wado back in Baratie?

 

[Ace]

Sanji’s base kick broke Niji’s jaw.

Judge’s named attack to Sanji’s chin did barely any damage.
:zorothink:

 

[Ravagerblade]

I believe Asura might have tripled Zoro's Doriki

What do you guys think?

It tastes pretty legit imo

Baseless.

 

[ShishioIsBack]

Yes, it's obvious that current Sanji is stronger than his siblings. But that's not the point. Since there was never a fight between him and King. All that happened was that King tried hard to breach Sanji's durability, who just tried to protect Momo. So all we are comparing is, how successful was King in hurting and damaging Sanji with a free try hard hit, vs how easily Katakuri trashed Ichiji who has superior durability due to the additional exoskeleton. Not to mention that Ichiji out of all siblings has incredible damage output with his Kizaru-like lasers, just putting holes in Oden and the other Big Mom pirates, with Oven lying on the floor like trash and bleeding. Yet Katakuri wasted him.

I would say RS Sanji is far more durable than RS ichiji. That suit is designed for defense.

 

[Akuma_Law]

no matter what sanji does sanji haters gonna find away to downplay or people would just downplay his opponent

why is it hard to admit sanji is strong?

That is true
Tanking a YC1 lethal attack is something even the Sanji fanboys didn't dream of, and before that he succeeded in mission to rescue Momonusuke in between two Yonko commanders it's all crazy

 

[Finalbeta]

Baseless.

Not if you use your brain

Then it sounds good

 

[WesMidnight]

I believe Asura might have tripled Zoro's Doriki

What do you guys think?

It tastes pretty legit imo

0 chance, it is signifcantly less hyped than G3 PISTOL

 

[Ravagerblade]

Whose feats are not far better than Big Mom's lol?
Zoro's feats shits on Big Moms, I mean royally shit on them

So Zoro can carve through however much KM's of Skull to the outside of Onigashima with one casual slash?

 

[Jo_Ndule]

I said he can give him a BETTER fight, compared to the Vinsmokes, not that he can give him a good fight.

Low diff is still more than what ichiji accomplished.

Yes

And how you confirm Sanji isn't more durable than his siblings? As a matter of fact, Sanji has better showings as far as it concerns durability as he tanked a city busting move with 0 damage. Was it ever specified all raid suits are equally durable?

Besides BIg Mom and the customized bullets made for raid suits, Did anyone from BM pirates damage a Vinsmoke bypassing RS durability on panel?

He's not

Oda didn't go through all these exoskeleton and RS stuff just for Sanji to have better dura than his siblings when his recent feats are all thanks to RS not his own body.

So yeah, all Vinsmokes have same dura with RS. His siblings are even better.

ichiji self exploded coz he was trash,, and casual kata rendered him unconscious and bled

King can't even make Sanji bleed from. The face or nose from this attack.

 

[comrade]

I would say RS Sanji is far more durable than RS ichiji. That suit is designed for defense.

I think as for durability, all Raid Suits are the same. Additionally, each Raid Suit comes with specific powers. Niji has speed and electricity, Ichiji has his lightning beams, Sanji has invisibility.

 

[Violent Sanji]

What makes you think Zoro can't survive that attack even without Raid Suit?

If zoro doesn’t block with his swords then he would have a hole in his chest. Most One piece characters don’t have durability just look a whitebeard random swords and bullets were going threw him.

 

[Akuma_Law]

Jinbe and Robin stepping in infront big mom was very expected

 

[Ravagerblade]

Not if you use your brain

Then it sounds good

Sometimes I wonder if you use yours. Never heard Ashura was a triple Power leveling Mechanic. It does help with AP but not what your claiming.

 

[SaintBellkin]

Oh its the Usual Zoro Sanji again

 

[Roronoa-sama]

Moreover kaku and Lucci are CP0, how someone can compare Kaku with Jabura (he doesn't have luck with love too jajaja)

 

[Finalbeta]

0 chance, it is signifcantly less hyped than G3 PISTOL

But Zoro had never the pleasure to fight off Lucci whilst using his Asura mode :P