General & Others Is anyone excited about One Piece currently?

#41
Do you get the feeling that this supposed climax where the FV makes his move is extremely underwhelming? Is there any hype left? I don't mean those content creators who are mostly paid off by Oda to act like the chapters are the best thing since slice bread. Like I couldnt care less about what happens anymore! I've become apathetic to it. Maybe it's because Loki is such an overpowered character oit of nowhere or that Luffy has turned into a messianic figure but this story isnt what it used to be.
Your hate is a social contruct. You are literally hating and absolutely disliking an obvectively amazing moment of the story simply because other people are hating. Nothing more.

Yes. What you like can also be influenced by the way people act around you regarding the story. It's a well understood social phenomenon and right now you are evolving on a website where the best way to stand out is to be the most apathetic and hatefull possible without rationnal or based reason. And you did not create any protection against it this influence.

Congrats! You are victim of pure social pressure. Hope this helps.
 
#43
Your hate is a social contruct. You are literally hating and absolutely disliking an obvectively amazing moment of the story simply because other people are hating. Nothing more.

Yes. What you like can also be influenced by the way people act around you regarding the story. It's a well understood social phenomenon and right now you are evolving on a website where the best way to stand out is to be the most apathetic and hatefull possible without rationnal or based reason. And you did not create any protection against it this influence.

Congrats! You are victim of pure social pressure. Hope this helps.
There are a lot of edgelords like this on here. It’s like a snobby attention seeking approach. Having criticism is one thing, but the performative “this manga is shit, Oda is washed…etc” when they spend hours a week on a fan forum mostly dedicated to the series they hate
 
#44
There are a lot of edgelords like this on here. It’s like a snobby attention seeking approach. Having criticism is one thing, but the performative “this manga is shit, Oda is washed…etc” when they spend hours a week on a fan forum mostly dedicated to the series they hate
Exactly. Posters here or haters on twitter really don't realize the current hype One Piece is in. They are young, most of them started a few years ago, perhaps 10 years ago. They have absolutely no idea or memory what it was like back then. BACK BACK then.

Yeah, there was a lot of hype. Yes, forum were blooming. But compared to what is happening with One Piece today, how One Piece is shared ?

It's two completely different universes. One Piece is trending weekly since Wano. I don't know if people realize that it's something that even most TV shows don't even manage to do.

People are HYPED AF
 
#45
Naw dog if One Piece was exciting then I'd be asking AI to make Imu be a woman and submit to me... But I never even thought of that so obviously this isn't exciting. He's not even goon worthy.
 
#46
Again, let me reiterate for the ones in the back:

You can be influenced in your taste through social pressure and you are on a forum where the defaut position is "Oda is washed"

You WILL be influenced by the social pressure. Even I was influenced by it, so I'm trying not to read too much here. Because I know I already adopted some of the hatefull codes. Know that it is the price to pay to stay on this website.
 
#47
People were already saying "this story is not what it used to be" in the middle of Enies Lobby and I still remember arguing with people in the middle of impel down.

Now it's time to listen when I tell you this:

The story is good.
This point depends on how this arc will end. Look if Luffy will be able to stand against Imu, the whole story will lose it's sence. Because Luffy is weaker than Shanks, for example. So it will be the same if Naruto Kakashi was stronger than Madara, or in Bleach, Kisuke Urahara was stronger than Aizen.

So to deal with the Final Villain, you need to call Shanks, and everything will be solved. The whole journey loses its tension.
No one will be risking life from this moment, because this is a fake journey. You don't need this adventure, case you already won from the beginning of this manga.
 
#48
This point depends on how this arc will end.
No it does not. The current moment, scratch that, the current CHAPTERS we are in are literally historical in the paradigm of One Piece. ot only are they amazing, but they are the payoff of 27 years of build-up including Imu.

You guyz need to chill, really. This current moment in the story is absolutely incredible. And I'm talking here on an objective basis, just looking coldly on the narration and the what is happening.


Look if Luffy will be able to stand against Imu, the whole story will lose it's sence. Because Luffy is weaker than Shanks, for example.
Who told you that?

I know who > Your headcanons.

And even if it were true, this is not an excuse, Luffy is supposed to be able to take Imu. Will he manage that? Probably not, he is scared and Imu is too strong at the moment. He will lose the first round. But he will come back.


So to deal with the Final Villain, you need to call Shanks, and everything will be solved. The whole journey loses its tension.
I see words, and I don't see any logic.

1. We don't know if Imu is the final villain.
2. Imu has a time limit, he will be soon gone, he is here to takeover Loki, not wreck Luffy.
3. Shanks arriving would not be making the story lose tension it would SAVE the crew. We are already in a point of high tension. We need Shanks right now, it's not an option. The gang needs help right now or everyone will suffer!

You need to read and understand the stakes:

- The freaking King of the world is unleashing his power without any resistance aside from Loki
- Imu has the power to takeover anyone if he needs to aside from Luffy and Loki
- There are 2, potentially 3 powered up holy knights that are about to wreck the place.
- There is no Zoro
- There is no Sanji
- There is no Usopp
- There is no Brook
- Gaban can't move
- There are only injured Giants, Jinbe, Franky, Chopper and Nami
- Imu is wreaking Loki
- Loki is almost down
- Luffy is scared

This is not an average crisis here. We are in a potential Sabaody configuration without Kuma to help us get out.
 
#49
No it does not. The current moment, scratch that, the current CHAPTERS we are in are literally historical in the paradigm of One Piece. ot only are they amazing, but they are the payoff of 27 years of build-up including Imu.

You guyz need to chill, really. This current moment in the story is absolutely incredible. And I'm talking here on an objective basis, just looking coldly on the narration and the what is happening.
No, this is not a payoff. If MC is stronger than Villain, who is 800 years old and has crazy powers, won the war against a much stronger character with the same powers as MC, you should just end the manga immediately. This is not incredible in any way. This will be just Disney Mickey Mouse, not even The Lion King.
Pay Off happened in Attack on Titan when MC became evil, that is the only excuse that can explain the idea of MC who is stronger than any of his opponents at the beginning of the Final Saga.

Who told you that?

I know who > Your headcanons.

And even if it were true, this is not an excuse, Luffy is supposed to be able to take Imu. Will he manage that? Probably not, he is scared and Imu is too strong at the moment. He will lose the first round. But he will come back.
Yes, he shouldn't, or this will be the biggest failure that Oda made in the story. For me, this will be the last one.
1. We don't know if Imu is the final villain.
Sure, but he is 800 years old King of the World, who is beyond that? Teach can be FV but he already was portrayed as joke himself.
Imu has the power to takeover anyone if he needs to aside from Luffy and Loki
But this power is not working on MC. So this means nothing. Fake power.
There are 2, potentially 3 powered up holy knights that are about to wreck the place.
Again, this is nothing, because Imu is stronger than any of his subordinates. So if MC is stronger than Imu, you should just end the manga.
There is no Zoro
- There is no Sanji
- There is no Usopp
- There is no Brook
3. Shanks arriving would not be making the story lose tension it would SAVE the crew. We are already in a point of high tension. We need Shanks right now, it's not an option. The gang needs help right now or everyone will suffer!
Especially because of this. If Luffy can stall Imu's future story in a moment will turn into garbage, because no one else will be able to push Luffy to a higher extent.
Everything else will be fake tension that Luffy could already overcome.
- Loki is almost down
- Luffy is scared

This is not an average crisis here. We are in a potential Sabaody configuration without Kuma to help us get out.
Exactly, so if Shanks appears and helps with Imu, this will be fine to some extent, ending. Imu is nerfed, so if Luffy+Shanks will be able to stop him right now, this will be fine. But if Luffy alone could be able to stand against Imu, this is over. Everything else will be fake tension.

There will be zero chances that someone else will be able to do the same thing that Imu did. As you said, this is the first encounter with the probable Final Villain. We are already reading Final Saga. There will be no place in the future to lose the fight. Especially against Teach at Laughtale, because Teach is Luffy's rival, he can't lose even the first battle, because this would mean he is unworthy to gain One Piece. Plus, Teach was bleeding from Law alone. Again, like it or not, we are facing right now the King of the World. He is the only one, there's no 4-of people who is like him. This title belongs only to him. So there will be no future tension if Luffy is able to stand against him. You can just put Luffy against anyone, and he still wins the fight. So just end the manga there.
 
#50
No, this is exactly what I wanted to see from the moment the timeskip happened. Younko was always filler for me, because this was just an optional fight. While right now the whole WG line is on stake, because the whole WG serves the King of the World. If Oda makes this arc ending Nika-peace again, I will just drop this series. This is the moment when everyone's life has to be put on stake. A moment of real tension and an unpredictable ending of arc.
Bro Elbaf is filled Nika ass lickers
 
#51
No it does not. The current moment, scratch that, the current CHAPTERS we are in are literally historical in the paradigm of One Piece. ot only are they amazing, but they are the payoff of 27 years of build-up including Imu.

You guyz need to chill, really. This current moment in the story is absolutely incredible. And I'm talking here on an objective basis, just looking coldly on the narration and the what is happening.



Who told you that?

I know who > Your headcanons.

And even if it were true, this is not an excuse, Luffy is supposed to be able to take Imu. Will he manage that? Probably not, he is scared and Imu is too strong at the moment. He will lose the first round. But he will come back.



I see words, and I don't see any logic.

1. We don't know if Imu is the final villain.
2. Imu has a time limit, he will be soon gone, he is here to takeover Loki, not wreck Luffy.
3. Shanks arriving would not be making the story lose tension it would SAVE the crew. We are already in a point of high tension. We need Shanks right now, it's not an option. The gang needs help right now or everyone will suffer!

You need to read and understand the stakes:

- The freaking King of the world is unleashing his power without any resistance aside from Loki
- Imu has the power to takeover anyone if he needs to aside from Luffy and Loki
- There are 2, potentially 3 powered up holy knights that are about to wreck the place.
- There is no Zoro
- There is no Sanji
- There is no Usopp
- There is no Brook
- Gaban can't move
- There are only injured Giants, Jinbe, Franky, Chopper and Nami
- Imu is wreaking Loki
- Loki is almost down
- Luffy is scared

This is not an average crisis here. We are in a potential Sabaody configuration without Kuma to help us get out.
You're just yapping. All Konstantis is saying is that if the big Event that's being built up is ruined through plot convenience, it would be bad. That's just a fact
 
#53
Bro Elbaf is filled Nika ass lickers
Yes, but it has a different build-up and can end differently
You're just yapping. All Konstantis is saying is that if the big Event that's being built up is ruined through plot convenience, it would be bad. That's just a fact
Yes, if SH crew will be saved again with a plot convenience, everything else will be helped with plot convenience. And plot convenience is nothing else but bad writing. This happened in Wano's jail, this happened many times before this. But this outcome is most important of the series. If the solution will be the same, I will say there's no hope for any tension in the future, because everything will be fake tension.
 
#56
I disagree. From the Narrative stake, the whole Final Saga was just built up for Imu, and this arc should put him in the Final Villain place. Imu has to be recognized as the Monster from the Mural who fought against the whole world. This means Imu has to win this battle.
Quick Elbaf recap for you:
Your issue is that you're massively overrating Imu. He's not the FV and he won't matter that much in the final saga (BB victim).
Once Elbaf is over he will lose relevance, just like the Gorosei did after Egghead.
Luffy, BB, Shanks, Buggy > Imu
 
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