Controversial Be smart and quit One Piece OR admit you love it

ZenZu

The only one who can beat me is me
#41
I agree. This is more of an intervention than anything. I genuingly believe that people, even those who hate it or managed to convinced themself through peer pressure that One Piece was bad, completely love the story.

The problem is the effect the trashtalk has on the long term when it becomes a system.



I'll be very honest here. I'm scared as F to publish anything because I know for a fact - because I analyzed it to understand it - that nothing will ever come close to what Oda is capable of doing in OP. EVEN in the last yonko Saga.

People are genuingly missing the complexity of the story simply because Luffy is laughing a bit too much while making Pizza with two officials. They are unknowingly killing their own enjoyment quite literally for a bit of clout and social recognition, it's scary.



Show me the truth then.
Brother, unless your paycheck is somehow tied to this story you need to relax. Oda the millionaire is laughing his way to the bank while you're hyperventilating over people's opinions on his story.
 
#42
Using the Yonko Saga to try to showcase Oda's talent at writing is not a good idea at all. This saga exposed all of Oda's weaknesses and the issues existing within One Piece.

It was truly in this saga that the magic was definitively lost forever.
 
#44
Brother, unless your paycheck is somehow tied to this story you need to relax. Oda the millionaire is laughing his way to the bank while you're hyperventilating over people's opinions on his story.
They're the most communist and rich hating person ever until it comes to bootlicking Oda who's a millionaire with very questionable track records. Proof enough money/dopamine can make anyone forget their morals
 
#45
Brother, unless your paycheck is somehow tied to this story you need to relax. Oda the millionaire is laughing his way to the bank while you're hyperventilating over people's opinions on his story.
It's not about Oda, it's not about One Piece anymore (even if it was for a time). Now it's about people who find, in One Piece, a safe place. Similar to what people can live with diverse subject or domain like an activity or religion.

I'm talking about a story that help people get through their day in a period where the world wants to bury the populations under more and more authoritarianism. I've seen a new generation in search for community, meaning and positivity, come to One Piece to breeze.

One Piece is not just a simple story anymore. It's a mean of protest, a mean of community, a tool of hope and positivity, something people use to find meaning or love, something people use to find a way to escape, something people use to fight or to cheer.

This is why you must not underestimate its importance and the effect our toxicity can have on others.
Using the Yonko Saga to try to showcase Oda's talent at writing is not a good idea at all. This saga exposed all of Oda's weaknesses and the issues existing within One Piece.

It was truly in this saga that the magic was definitively lost forever.
:beckmoji:
They're the most communist and rich hating person ever until it comes to bootlicking Oda who's a millionaire with very questionable track records. Proof enough money/dopamine can make anyone forget their morals
:catUp:
 
#46
"Imu in Elbaf is impressive but not enough impressive"
This one is true though, you can't pretend it isn't.
Oda has failed to make Imu look threatening. Forget about him being final villain, compared to guys like Aizen and Madara that also aren't FV, Imu is still nothing threatening.
Aizen one shotted captain Komamura in his villain debut, then when he went into action himself, he low diffed 4 captains by himself.
Then compare him to Acnologia, Acnologia soloed the whole guild of Fairy Tail, then one shot killed the highly hyped God Serena.

Imu?
In Egghead he was twerking to Joyboy's haki.
In Elbaf he was stalled and fighting kinda evenly against non hybrid Loki (compare it to Aizen 1 vs 4ing captains low diff).

Hell, Elbaf Imu doesn't even feel as threatening as Water 7 Lucci who bodied Luffy and Zoro together.
 

ZenZu

The only one who can beat me is me
#47
This one is true though, you can't pretend it isn't.
Oda has failed to make Imu look threatening. Forget about him being final villain, compared to guys like Aizen and Madara that also aren't FV, Imu is still nothing threatening.
Aizen one shotted captain Komamura in his villain debut, then when he went into action himself, he low diffed 4 captains by himself.
Then compare him to Acnologia, Acnologia soloed the whole guild of Fairy Tail, then one shot killed the highly hyped God Serena.

Imu?
In Egghead he was twerking to Joyboy's haki.
In Elbaf he was stalled and fighting kinda evenly against non hybrid Loki (compare it to Aizen 1 vs 4ing captains low diff).

Hell, Elbaf Imu doesn't even feel as threatening as Water 7 Lucci who bodied Luffy and Zoro together.
To be fair Aizen trapped Yammamoto so he doesn't have to fight/deal with him.

Loki is closer to the Yammamoto equivalent here. The captains were the other top tiers who Imu already kind of embarrassed in the flashback.
 
#48
This one is true though, you can't pretend it isn't.
Of course I can wdym? Elbaph is amazing.


Oda has failed to make Imu look threatening.
Yeah. Sorry, but if what Oda depicted is not scary enough, your expectation is unrealistic.
FV, Imu is still nothing threatening.
Aizen one shotted captain Komamura in his villain debut, then when he went into action himself, he low diffed 4 captains by himself.
Then compare him to Acnologia, Acnologia soloed the whole guild of Fairy Tail, then one shot killed the highly hyped God Serena.
This is why powerscaling eventually corrupt the enjoyment of a story.
 
#49
You guyz transformed the powersystem of One Piece which is IMPOSSIBLE to powerscale (due to the number of factors) into a tool to examine the coherency of the story. This is the recipy to destroy any enjoyment.
 

K!NG HARA$H!MA

Hustlerversity Graduate
#50
In a way, Logiko is right.


Some people here are so obsessively hate reading One Piece so much that it is unhealthy.

Like why are you constantly over-analazying and over-explaining plot points of a series that you hate?

Hate is a exhausting emotion, consistent hating means you have serious issues. You are just obnoxious and give a bad energy to people who are actually enjoying this series


For me, it's just indifference mostly. Since 2022s, I barely read full chapters. I mostly read spoilers and I don't posts much in spoilers thread anymore.


I think it's just general sentiment in WG, it's just indifference not hate . Agenda posting is what drive discussions here and even then the forum is good as dead most of time.


Too many people are over invested as well and it has become a routine to just follow the series even if it is "bad".


When first I started following the series until now, there has been some level of One Piece reference every day. It has been well over a decade now.



It's just that much ingrained in people's life,
so I understand why people couldn't drop it.
 
#51
It's not about Oda, it's not about One Piece anymore (even if it was for a time). Now it's about people who find, in One Piece, a safe place. Similar to what people can live with diverse subject or domain like an activity or religion.

I'm talking about a story that help people get through their day in a period where the world wants to bury the populations under more and more authoritarianism. I've seen a new generation in search for community, meaning and positivity, come to One Piece to breeze.

One Piece is not just a simple story anymore. It's a mean of protest, a mean of community, a tool of hope and positivity, something people use to find meaning or love, something people use to find a way to escape, something people use to fight or to cheer.

This is why you must not underestimate its importance and the effect our toxicity can have on others.
Cry about it we will bully and destroy the safe space of all the losers that find this shitty manga as their safe space and fill this forum with nothing but toxicity to make their day worse :)
 

Light D Lamperouge

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#56
I quit One Piece, but that doesn't mean I can't come to this forum to have some fun in my free time lmao.


FYI, the threads you guys make just have an adverse effect on what you want to happen. If you say OP is your favourite piece of literature/manga/etc, the one you like the most, no one is gonna care, good for you br0. But you can't go around claiming it's the best of all time, the zenith of the medium, better than world-renowned literature and then whine when people disagree with you lol and call that hate.

I am baffled we're here talking about how it's become hate to say One Piece isn't better or more influential than Shakespeare's writing :Shadow_Unimpressed:
 

ZenZu

The only one who can beat me is me
#57
It's not about Oda, it's not about One Piece anymore (even if it was for a time). Now it's about people who find, in One Piece, a safe place. Similar to what people can live with diverse subject or domain like an activity or religion.

I'm talking about a story that help people get through their day in a period where the world wants to bury the populations under more and more authoritarianism. I've seen a new generation in search for community, meaning and positivity, come to One Piece to breeze.

One Piece is not just a simple story anymore. It's a mean of protest, a mean of community, a tool of hope and positivity, something people use to find meaning or love, something people use to find a way to escape, something people use to fight or to cheer.

This is why you must not underestimate its importance and the effect our toxicity can have on others.

:beckmoji:

:catUp:
You know what? A user here was so bent thanks to a discussion with me and Shiroyru he had to go to the hospital immediately. I wish I was exaggerating. This literally happened. So you might be onto something.

I guess it's not the worst angle for you to take.
 
#59
Of course I can wdym? Elbaph is amazing.



Yeah. Sorry, but if what Oda depicted is not scary enough, your expectation is unrealistic.

This is why powerscaling eventually corrupt the enjoyment of a story.
Sorry just stated the truth
Imu is underwhelming even if he isn't supposed to be final villain
Twerking to Joyboy, failed to break Ragnir's ice, and can't get past Loki who yet uses his hybrid form

If he was in Bleach he would be Barragan #2
King of Hueco Mondo / OP verse for centuries then instantly becomes Aizen's grunt the moment Aizen steps in Hueco Mondo / OP verse
Instead to twerking to Joyboy he would be twerking to Aizen like Grimmjhow did
 

ZenZu

The only one who can beat me is me
#60
Loki is Yamamoto equivalent 😭
Another random Loki wank typed from inside Sentinel's bedroom
This is a you problem then. Because Aizen didn't want anything to do with Yammamoto as well. Clearly there's a threshold of strength even he doesn't want to deal with. That is what Imu is dealing with rn.

The other top tiers are fodders to both Aizen and Imu as seen in the flashback where Imu made 2 of them his pets.
 
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