Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1185 Spoilers Discussion

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Him and Oro got powercliffed so badly when they heavily struggled (almost died?) against V2 Naruto and Kakashi / Guy by war arc were individually taking multiple V2 jin at once lmfao
It's not like Kisame ate a shark Zoan fruit or something, how exactly are you supposed to fight a tailed beast without your arms lol? He can't really do many Jutsu, and the physical advantage is obviously going to the tailed beast
 
What elemental techniques would he use to counter this?
earth style Jutsu, I guess?

On paper, what do Minato and Kabuto have to counter it, and you put them above on your list.

Orochimaru is incredibly versatile and knows a ton of Jutsu. He's not going down to something like that. He can even randomly pull out shit like this
https://naruto.fandom.com/wiki/Summoning:_Triple_Rashōmon
And he has regen powers, and has his snake transformation as well, which needed Itachi to pull out his Totsuka blade to deal with.
 
SM Jiraiya barely beat 3 Paths, and the Deva (stronger than all other Paths combined) wasn’t among them. He got powercliffed by SM Naruto
SM Naruto is terrifying on paper. No summonings he would beat 4/5 gokage; Oonuki would simply AoE atomize his ass. SM Jiraiya gets easily humiliated by SM Naruto in a 1v1

It's not like Kisame ate a shark Zoan fruit or something, how exactly are you supposed to fight a tailed beast without your arms lol? He can't really do many Jutsu, and the physical advantage is obviously going to the tailed beast
Even what he showed in P1 wasn't allat impressive he hasnt shown much jutsu under his belt. Orochimaru cruises solely by hype and edo tensei gg
 
SM Naruto is terrifying on paper. No summonings he would beat 4/5 gokage; Oonuki would simply AoE atomize his ass. SM Jiraiya gets easily humiliated by SM Naruto in a 1v1



Even what he showed in P1 wasn't allat impressive he hasnt shown much jutsu under his belt. Orochimaru cruises solely by hype and edo tensei gg
He's shown:
Regen
Random demon gate
Snake Kaiju

He's pretty much only really taken L's to Hax, like sealing weapons and Genjutsu

Certainly, he isn't going down to Kisame unless in cqc.

Anyway, my point is I don't see how you can downscale Orochimaru for not overpowering the 4 tails without being able to properly use his arms lol. What does Kisame do in that situation?
 
He's shown:
Regen
Random demon gate
Snake Kaiju

He's pretty much only really taken L's to Hax, like sealing weapons and Genjutsu

Certainly, he isn't going down to Kisame unless in cqc.

Anyway, my point is I don't see how you can downscale Orochimaru for not overpowering the 4 tails without being able to properly use his arms lol. What does Kisame do in that situation?
Remove Kisame’s ability to use any Jutsu, and he can still strip all of 4 tails Naruto’s chakra away with one swing of Samehada
 
SM Naruto is terrifying on paper. No summonings he would beat 4/5 gokage; Oonuki would simply AoE atomize his ass. SM Jiraiya gets easily humiliated by SM Naruto in a 1v1



Even what he showed in P1 wasn't allat impressive he hasnt shown much jutsu under his belt. Orochimaru cruises solely by hype and edo tensei gg
The Sannin title is kinda fraudulent tbh. They only got it for surviving a 3v1 with Mifune’s rival
 
Remove Kisame’s ability to use any Jutsu, and he can still strip all of 4 tails Naruto’s chakra away with one swing of Samehada
His arms don't really work though, can Kisame use sword swallower style?

No one except Madara and other broken characters can really do much in that situation. I don't think Kisame is one of them
 
Franky said he wanted to turn Brook and Usopp into Cyborgs. Vegapunk has organoids, and the ability to make clones of an individual (look at the Stella).

:handsup:

Cyborg Brook will surpass Sanji and Zoro, maybe even Ragnir. Flesh + Bone + Metal + Music, YOHOHOHOHO

I am the Bone of my Blade, because I am a Skeleton... SKULL JOKE
Hmmm what if brook can turn his bones to blades
And awake the hidden power of afro!@
 
Orochimaru isn't beating full power Kisame at all, you guys are just kidding atp.
Naruto Part 1 has lots of contradicting statements, so I wouldn't pay so much attention into that. Part 2 is what matters and sorry but Kisame was straight up compared to Bijuus just by his sheer chakra levels, Samehade excluded. With Samehade, he was even capable to beat Killerbee.
 
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If Candelle ends up being the previous wss or is related to Mihawk that in a weird way would make Brook semi connected to multiple wss
  • In the same crew as Zoro the future wss
  • Zombie Ryuma a previous wss had his shadow
  • Again depending on if Candelle was a previous wss or just related to Mihawk that’s another


Also if black blades are tied to death and sacrifice that’s also a big theme for Brook himself
 
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