Controversial General Political Discussion

[Roo]

I'm not sure worldwide hatred was the goal of Israel tho

Unfortunately for you politics is not a popularity contest. Popularity is only a fraction of the equation

 

[Logiko]

and practically create an unstable state where everyone hates each other?

Well, it's an appartheid after all, kind of already the case

Unfortunately for you politics is not a popularity contest. Popularity is only a fraction of the equation

True, until we start to bring their leaders to in front of the international crime court, which will transform the situation into something completely different.

Can't wait.

 

[Midnight Delight]

Well, it's an appartheid after all, kind of already the case

3114

 

[GalaxyLevelShanks]

Genuinely hilarious how people still bother with Logikos takes

 

[Roo]

It would turn Israel into 50% Arabs and practically create an unstable state where everyone hates each other?

One sate solution people forget that neither Palestinians nor Israelis want to share a state. How tf are we going to make it work lmao

 

[Midnight Delight]

One sate solution people forget that neither Palestinians nor Israelis want to share a state. How tf are we going to make it work lmao

You really expect "there is no war but class war" morons to comprehend that?

 

[Reborn]

One sate solution people forget that neither Palestinians nor Israelis want to share a state. How tf are we going to make it work lmao

Most nations don't want one state solution as well.

They want two states solution - both Israel and Palestine to co-exist next to each other but Israel and Hamas don't agree with this.

 

[AL sama]

go ahead be disrespectful

 

[Logiko]

3114

Here is what I could find with your number:

.... ???

Genuinely hilarious how people still bother with Logikos takes

One sate solution people forget that neither Palestinians nor Israelis want to share a state. How tf are we going to make it work lmao

People want peace. The way to get peace is secondary. Peace comes when material needs are met.

So we must focus on the way to meet the material needs of all : one state solution in this case

 

[Roo]

People want peace. The way to get peace is secondary. Peace comes when material needs are met.

So we must focus on the way to meet the material needs of all : one state solution in this case

They dont want peace they want justice, and both sides see the others as hostile actors who impede that justice

actually engage with the facts of the ground instead of giving platitudes.

 

[Roo]

You really expect "there is no war but class war" morons to comprehend that?

Ironically we’ll see if the Trump gaza plan works. His idea is basically to improve the material conditions in Gaza

 

[Midnight Delight]

They dont want peace they want justice, and both sides see the others as hostile actors who impede that justice.

Tbh the Khaybar and Amaleks rhetorics tells me there's something deeper going on

 

[Logiko]

They dont want peace they want justice, and both sides see the others as hostile actors who impede that justice

actually engage with the facts of the ground instead of giving platitudes.

True, but only one side is colonizing the other. So only one side has legitimacy in "justice"



When I talk about material needs, I'm firstly talking about ... well material needs as the words are meant to be understood. Meaning first the end of the coloniazation, the redistribution of stolen goods, persons and properties, the end of the appartheid, the end of the settler colony that is Israel, a reparation for the colonized and the assurance that it never happens again and THEN and only THEN will people be able to think about peace.

These are the material needs of the Palestinian people. As for the current Israelian, well, they also need peace, which means they must first need to takles the needs of Palestinians, then there should be the creation of a new state where both population are able to reconstruct. The palestinian dispora believes that nothing positive will come from a partition or a two state solution.

Material needs must be met to create peace.

Ironically we’ll see if the Trump gaza plan works. His idea is basically to improve the material conditions in Gaza

Not really, his idea is to take over gaza, thus stripping the control out of the hands of Palestinians.

 

[Blax Blah]

don't go too far

Man for me that's just what it is

Even when I talk about trt, I get physical weakness and disgust thinking about injecting your body with stuff and molding it, bleugh

 

[Blax Blah]

Man for me that's just what it is

Even when I talk about trt, I get physical weakness and disgust thinking about injecting your body with stuff and molding it, bleugh

I think I mentioned in the past that even just talking about trt makes me feel disgusted

 

[AL sama]

Man for me that's just what it is

Even when I talk about trt, I get physical weakness and disgust thinking about injecting your body with stuff and molding it, bleugh

then don't talk about it

 

[Midnight Delight]

True, but only one side is colonizing the other.

I dare you to define how the fuck do colonies apply here

 

[Logiko]

then don't talk about it

I agree with this @Blax Blah , for trans people, it can be a difficult thing to read. Remember than when you feel disgusted around people, people can feel it. And in the case of trans people, it participates in their domination.

I would try to talk with them a lot to remove that feeling. It's often a feeling that is socially constructed.

I dare you to define how the fuck do colonies apply here

I'm sorry, what?

 

[Roo]

True, but only one side is colonizing the other. So only one side has legitimacy in "justice"



When I talk about material needs, I'm firstly talking about ... well material needs as the words are meant to be understood. Meaning first the end of the coloniazation, the redistribution of stolen goods, persons and properties, the end of the appartheid, the end of the settler colony that is Israel, a reparation for the colonized and the assurance that it never happens again and THEN and only THEN will people be able to think about peace.

These are the material needs of the Palestinian people. As for the current Israelian, well, they also need peace, which means they must first need to takles the needs of Palestinians, then there should be the creation of a new state where both population are able to reconstruct. The palestinian dispora believes that nothing positive will come from a partition or a two state solution.

Material needs must be met to create peace.



Not really, his idea is to take over gaza, thus stripping the control out of the hands of Palestinians.

What you want is literally stripping control out of the hands of the Palestinians, they don’t want a shared state

 

[Roo]

Tbh the Khaybar and Amaleks rhetorics tells me there's something deeper going on

Yeah religion needs to be eliminated like the cancer that it is