General & Others Was Oden a Roger Pirate
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Kaido and Oden are hated by most of the fanbase. Nobody wants their fav to be below these guys so they are downplayed as much as possible. Sanji fans specifically push Oden being a RP because they can claim Gaban being stronger than Oden and push up Gaban as much as possible.
Its clear from Rogers request that he was borrowing Oden from WB. Oden spent how many years as WB pirate, that is his identity as a pirate. I mean who looks at MJ as a Wizards player.
Its clear from Rogers request that he was borrowing Oden from WB. Oden spent how many years as WB pirate, that is his identity as a pirate. I mean who looks at MJ as a Wizards player.
I was trying to figure out why this random question of semantics and no apparent relevance to anything matters to Albino until I scrolled and realized it's for Rayleigh/Gaban downscale/Oden upscale. Which means its also an attempt at Zoro/Sanji downscale or maybe just Kaido/BM upscale. Ah. Now I get it. That fits. I got confused for a second there.
Then I looked at his screenshots for his "evidence" and it's SBS material referencing "main" and "important" members with Oden not present. Lol Which, if you concede that Oden was not a Roger Pirate for the purpose of power-scaling, at best offers a perspective that Ray/Gaban is ambiguous in relation to Oden, not necessarily weaker or stronger. Anything to keep the agenda alive, I guess. Squeeze every drop!
That said, I still fail to see the point considering we have Whitebeard as the no. 2 in Rocks' crew. Which means that Oden, Kaido, Rayleigh, Gaban, and Whitebeard are all going to get power crept regardless. Correct me if I'm wrong and please enlighten me on the point/agenda of this thread. @Albino 👑 I'm a bit behind on One Piece politics over the last year.
Then I looked at his screenshots for his "evidence" and it's SBS material referencing "main" and "important" members with Oden not present. Lol Which, if you concede that Oden was not a Roger Pirate for the purpose of power-scaling, at best offers a perspective that Ray/Gaban is ambiguous in relation to Oden, not necessarily weaker or stronger. Anything to keep the agenda alive, I guess. Squeeze every drop!
That said, I still fail to see the point considering we have Whitebeard as the no. 2 in Rocks' crew. Which means that Oden, Kaido, Rayleigh, Gaban, and Whitebeard are all going to get power crept regardless. Correct me if I'm wrong and please enlighten me on the point/agenda of this thread. @Albino 👑 I'm a bit behind on One Piece politics over the last year.
Are we really gonna argue that Max Marx is more important than Oden for the sake of the Wings agenda?
Wings fans are the ones trying to use out of context statements from Elbaf to claim that Gaban would low/mid diff Oden, when it’s pretty obvious that the general public in One Piece doesn’t even recognize Oden as a former Roger Pirate (Akainu, the current Fleet Admiral, only knew him as a WB Pirate)
Wings fans are the ones trying to use out of context statements from Elbaf to claim that Gaban would low/mid diff Oden, when it’s pretty obvious that the general public in One Piece doesn’t even recognize Oden as a former Roger Pirate (Akainu, the current Fleet Admiral, only knew him as a WB Pirate)
I don't follow on the relation between Max Marx (had to Google who this was lol) or Oden's importance to my post. Are you referring to me implying Oden will get power crept by Sanji? I didn't specifically say that, but I don't see a problem with it.
We already have countless examples of seemingly "more important" characters getting power crept by "less important" ones. Take your picks across One Piece's entire run. And you could argue that Oden's relevance was confined to the Wano arc while Sanji is more important to the story at large. I might have been convinced before Sanji got billed as a future CoC user and his star was rising, but at this point I think it's easily on the table that Oden gets power crept.
Maybe I am underestimating that you and Albino are actual fans of Oden and this is moreso retaliatory rhetoric in response to the events of recent chapters akin to how Kaido fans are lamenting the power creep? If that's the whole point of this thread, I apologize. The whole point of my post was that I was confused why anyone would care about this topic and seeking clarification on what I was missing. I maybe extrapolated too much because I genuinely didn't consider that Oden had actual fans.
We already have countless examples of seemingly "more important" characters getting power crept by "less important" ones. Take your picks across One Piece's entire run. And you could argue that Oden's relevance was confined to the Wano arc while Sanji is more important to the story at large. I might have been convinced before Sanji got billed as a future CoC user and his star was rising, but at this point I think it's easily on the table that Oden gets power crept.
Maybe I am underestimating that you and Albino are actual fans of Oden and this is moreso retaliatory rhetoric in response to the events of recent chapters akin to how Kaido fans are lamenting the power creep? If that's the whole point of this thread, I apologize. The whole point of my post was that I was confused why anyone would care about this topic and seeking clarification on what I was missing. I maybe extrapolated too much because I genuinely didn't consider that Oden had actual fans.
You said that the SBS with all the Roger Pirates sketches didn’t include Oden because it was only about the “important members,” even though most of those guys are literal nobodies. Roger couldn’t become PK if Oden wasn’t there to translate the Poneglyphs, so he’s clearly way more important than guys like Max Marx, Spencer, Moon Isaac Jr, etc.
Zoro and Sanji fans are claiming that the giants statements about Ray/Gaban being the 2nd and 3rd strongest of the crew, and Roger/Ray/Gaban being way stronger than the rest of the crew, means that Gaban can low/mid diff Oden. When in reality, Oden joining the Roger Pirates for a year is not something that the giants would even know. Even Akainu didn’t know about that until Sengoku told him.
Zoro and Sanji fans are claiming that the giants statements about Ray/Gaban being the 2nd and 3rd strongest of the crew, and Roger/Ray/Gaban being way stronger than the rest of the crew, means that Gaban can low/mid diff Oden. When in reality, Oden joining the Roger Pirates for a year is not something that the giants would even know. Even Akainu didn’t know about that until Sengoku told him.
