Powers & Abilities Haki is the best shonen power system

Oda wrote himself into a corner with Haki.

Observation haki essentially became useless once everyone had access to it, so he had to create a new observation haki called future sight, which is practically the exact same thing as what observation haki was when it was introduced. It is increasingly becoming useless because every top tier opponent has it.

Armament haki is in a similar situation, he seemed to write advanced armament as a way to defeat Kaido and hasn't been of great value since. Armament boils down to 'if I am stronger in every other way, then my armament beats your armament'. So what the hell is the point if they were always going to be stronger anyway?

Armament/Observation haki is essentially a pointless power system whose only legitimate use in a high tier fight is to defeat logias which no one worth beating really is anymore.

Conquerors is sort of similar, you can use it to one shot fodder... big deal. Doesn't work on basically anyone in the new world. Looks like it's getting a power up currently so we'll see. Ranged lightning bolts seem like they could be good.

Side Note: Nen is overrated bullshit, a complex explanation does not mean something is good. It was bullshit from the moment a second rate fighter like Kurapika could defeat a spider because he had 'conditions'. Gon randomly powering up with friendship and then got his powers back through a wish. GTFO.
 
Oda wrote himself into a corner with Haki, observation haki essentially became useless once everyone had access to it, so he had to create a new observation haki called future sight, which is practically the exact same thing as what observation haki was when it was introduced. It is increasingly becoming useless because every top tier opponent has it.

Armament haki is in a similar situation, he seemed to write advanced armament as a way to defeat Kaido and hasn't been of great value since. Armament boils down to 'if I am stronger in every other way, then my armament beats your armament'. So what the hell is the point if they were always going to be stronger anyway?

Armament/Observation haki is essentially a pointless power system whose only legitimate use in a high tier fight is to defeat logias which no one worth beating really is anymore.

Conquerors is sort of similar, you can use it to one shot fodder... big deal. Doesn't work on basically anyone in the new world. Looks like it's getting a power up currently so we'll see. Ranged lightning bolts seem like they could be good.

Nen is overrated bullshit, a complex explanation does not mean something is good. It was bullshit from the moment a second rate fighter like Kurapika could defeat a spider because he had 'conditions'. Gon randomly powering up with friendship and then got his powers back through a wish. GTFO.
It isn't really useless, two fighters can both have future sight, yet one can have much better mastery and consistency than the other.
 
It isn't really useless, two fighters can both have future sight, yet one can have much better mastery and consistency than the other.
Which, again, makes it the exact same as observation haki was originally. And before that it was the exact same concept as regular ass dodging because someone has greater speed and reflexes.

Observation works identical to a pro boxer beating an amateur because he can predict his movements. It's pointless to give an extra ability on top of what Luffy was already doing. The reader is supposed to just imagine he is using observation 90% of the time because it isn't practical to draw.
 
Haki is the best power system in shonen imo, it's simple, universally accessible, hype, versatile, and the rules are consistent
"Universally accessible" is a requirement for all shonen power systems lmfao what

The fact you gotta add in ts and "hype" as arguments show completely otherwise. And no its not simple nor rules are not consistent either. Have you seen the pages of advanced CoC crayon scribble discussions in this forum?

We have a special member who uses the colored manga as indicators for when someone whoses acoc ffs
 
"Universally accessible" is a requirement for all shonen power systems lmfao what

The fact you gotta add in ts and "hype" as arguments show completely otherwise. And no its not simple nor rules are not consistent either. Have you seen the pages of advanced CoC crayon scribble discussions in this forum?

We have a special member who uses the colored manga as indicators for when someone whoses acoc ffs
Cooked ngl. We do have scribbles
 
"Universally accessible" is a requirement for all shonen power systems lmfao what

The fact you gotta add in ts and "hype" as arguments show completely otherwise. And no its not simple nor rules are not consistent either. Have you seen the pages of advanced CoC crayon scribble discussions in this forum?

We have a special member who uses the colored manga as indicators for when someone whoses acoc ffs
Fruits aren't universally accessible, neither is chakra, neither is CE in a big part
 
Devil fruits are fun. Concept is creative. One piece should have kept DFS as main power level system.

Haki not only is a mess with no clear laid down rules but it also hard to interpret.

The biggest mistake oda made when it comes to one piece - to have baseless haki system
If fruits were the main thing, blazing bagua would neg the verse
 
Fruits aren't universally accessible, neither is chakra, neither is CE in a big part
Anybody can eat a fruit, even a dumb know-nothing animal like Chopper.
Everybody has chakra, the difficult part is training to control it.
Everybody produces cursed energy, the difficult part is training to control it.

Again, you don't understand the meaning of words.

Name 3 power systems that are better lol
Since you dislike/don't understand/snob the power systems of DB, Naruto, JJK, HxH:

FMA, JoJo, World Trigger, Choujin X, Fire Force, (pre Re:) Tokyo Ghoul, to some extent even Magi,

all have better power systems than what haki has devolved into.
DFs used to put OP above them, not will power turned bullshit deus ex.
 
Anybody can eat a fruit, even a dumb know-nothing animal like Chopper.
Everybody has chakra, the difficult part is training to control it.
Everybody produces cursed energy, the difficult part is training to control it.

Again, you don't understand the meaning of words.


Since you dislike/don't understand/snob the power systems of DB, Naruto, JJK, HxH:

FMA, JoJo, World Trigger, Choujin X, Fire Force, (pre Re:) Tokyo Ghoul, to some extent even Magi,

all have better power systems than what haki has devolved into.
DFs used to put OP above them, not will power turned bullshit deus ex.
Magi, Tokyo Ghoul, Fire Force, Choujin X


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There's no way you're serious
 
Chakra (Naruto) , Nen (HxH), even f*cking Jujutsu Kaisen overcomplicated shit lol
Haki is a mess, especially if you consider pre-time skip and Marineford in particular. It was just a way to make things easier for Oda, that trapped himself into a corner with the Logia's intangibility.
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I also came to this conclusion after thinking about how simplistic chi is, and how CE has stuff just happen and makes things up on the spot



With CE nothing is explained, nothing makes sense, and new massive power-ups are made-up breaking the previous rules and appear on the spot




Like open domain, WCS too if you count it, Mahito has DE but Kashimo the top 1 of his era doesn't have neither DE nor RCT?



Imagine if Roger became the pirate king without ACOA and without ACOC and without ACOO lol
Another thing about Kashimo, he literally never even used his technique
These are the reasons I gave for why CE is very bad

And chakra is too abstract and based on genetics

I don't care about nen, hold it as top 1 if you want to, haki would be top 2 anyway
 
Magic + elementals + your haki's will power all in one
Power system built around the biology of what being a ghoul is, and what consuming other people does to your psychology. Not only does this P.S. allow for fighting abilities, but it lets you understand what type of person one is from the limits they went to in order to "evolve". This is a storytelling P.S. more rounded than will power alone.
Anyone can control fire--that's the universal accessibilities you keep spamming about. Different generations control it differently. Training lets you control more and shape it. From there on, it's standard, visually-clear (unlike haki) shonen progression.
Powers are manifested based on the user's psychology, especially fears. Like any shonen, you learn to control, expand, transform, break limits. Clear-cut and stackable.
 
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These are the reasons I gave for why CE is very bad

And chakra is too abstract and based on genetics

I don't care about nen, hold it as top 1 if you want to, haki would be top 2 anyway
"Chakra is too based on genetics and isn't universally accessible enough. That's why I prefer Conquerer's Haki, an ability that only 1 in 100,000 are born with the potential to awaken.".

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