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Ratchet

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How scums not being able to save zem over jinri makes jinri scum? And, I think this scenario of yours is based on the assumption that charlie is town.
It would require scum to basically give Zemmi for free, given Jinri was more of a long standing wagon. And sort of, I don't really think Charlie as scum decides to act on his own and make a last minute change. I do find it hard to defend from Charlie though.
 

Ratchet

The End and the Beginning
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Found these btw. Kinda random picks for town reading brad (zemmi). I can get reasoning behind zemmi though.

Idk how likely it's that Alyssa would bus teammate when she dueled melkor though. Like, what for. And flower claims indie
I don't think it's all that likely. Not impossible and on play they haven't been that great. But will take a bit to get there. Would be nice if we had some more mech there.
 

Reborn

Throughout Heaven & Earth,I alone am d Honored One
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Mostly random person from poe. I mean i'm aware IT looks terrible. I'm not going to act like it was 3d chess move. It's been minutes to eod, looked like Ratchet isn't there. Multiple people were in thread but none od them moved when votes were tied. Did it not look weird to you at all?

Michelle claimed one but it's result of flower wish.



That was at night prior to Ekko's death. So we would be at 9-3-1
There could be multiple reasons behind that kind of play from the rest and not necessarily what you assumed.
 

Reborn

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It would require scum to basically give Zemmi for free, given Jinri was more of a long standing wagon. And sort of, I don't really think Charlie as scum decides to act on his own and make a last minute change. I do find it hard to defend from Charlie though.
My concern here is not Charlie changed the wagon at last minute. It's him having two vp.

Initially, jinri and zem had two votes each. But due to charlie having 2 vp, zem actually had 3 votes. So, from Charlie's perspective, zem was the one who was all set to get lynched. No one knew about this except for Charlie and most importantly, no one knew about lynch getting deflected/vote stealing which happened EoD.

Him removing vote from Zem left Zem with one vote and jan with two votes alongside Jinri. This do come across as an attempt to save zem.
 

Reborn

Throughout Heaven & Earth,I alone am d Honored One
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Okay on thinking a bit more about what happened


Jinri and Charlie - either one of them is scum.

Charlie as scum won't expose himself like this in case jinri is scum as well to save zem who's outed scum. So, if jinri is scum, then Charlie is likely town.

However, Charlie's voting act came across as an attempt to save zem. If I go by this, then jinri could be town and Charlie could be scum and he removed his vote to save zem and placed it on Jan. In this scenario, Charlie is scum, and jinri and jan are likely to be town.

I don't think both jinri and Charlie could be scums based on what happened.

One of them being scum makes more sense
 
Okay on thinking a bit more about what happened


Jinri and Charlie - either one of them is scum.

Charlie as scum won't expose himself like this in case jinri is scum as well to save zem who's outed scum. So, if jinri is scum, then Charlie is likely town.

However, Charlie's voting act came across as an attempt to save zem. If I go by this, then jinri could be town and Charlie could be scum and he removed his vote to save zem and placed it on Jan. In this scenario, Charlie is scum, and jinri and jan are likely to be town.

I don't think both jinri and Charlie could be scums based on what happened.

One of them being scum makes more sense
I'd argue me being scum with jinri would make the most sense since like, i cfdd bitter when jinri was leading and then again when she's tied.
 
My concern here is not Charlie changed the wagon at last minute. It's him having two vp.

Initially, jinri and zem had two votes each. But due to charlie having 2 vp, zem actually had 3 votes. So, from Charlie's perspective, zem was the one who was all set to get lynched. No one knew about this except for Charlie and most importantly, no one knew about lynch getting deflected/vote stealing which happened EoD.

Him removing vote from Zem left Zem with one vote and jan with two votes alongside Jinri. This do come across as an attempt to save zem.
I mean it doesn't show up on vc so3i didn't have to claim that tbh
 

Reborn

Throughout Heaven & Earth,I alone am d Honored One
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I'd argue me being scum with jinri would make the most sense since like, i cfdd bitter when jinri was leading and then again when she's tied.
I doubt you or any other player who will roll scum would expose himself/herself with voting like that if two leading wagons with both tied are scums.

Self preservation matters

I mean it doesn't show up on vc so3i didn't have to claim that tbh
Hmm that's a point for you no doubt
 
I doubt you or any other player who will roll scum would expose himself/herself with voting like that if two leading wagons with both tied are scums.

Self preservation matters


Hmm that's a point for you no doubt
Assuming flower is just selfish indie and census is right, who do you think would be remaining 3 btw?
 

Reborn

Throughout Heaven & Earth,I alone am d Honored One
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Assuming flower is just selfish indie and census is right, who do you think would be remaining 3 btw?
After I subbed ( didn't read pages before I subbed) and based on what I have seen so far then I made a post about leaning town on Ratchet because he came across as the person who's trying to think about the game and was not buying flower's claim


You as scum leaning. I already made myself clear about why I think so.

Jinri - I have no clue why she was leading wagon. Based on gameplay of what I have seen so far, she looks fine. But my doubt about her comes from what happened at the EoD.

Without lynch redirection, zem getting lynched makes very little sense especially when we had two leading wagons with equal votes.

Ace - one of his post did strike me weird about voting zem I guess but nothing much.

Tbh, I am confident that solving you, jinri and jan can give us atleast one scum and possibly 2 scums.

Michelle - nothing much on her.


And, considering the numbers of votes and voting behaviour at the end, with no efforts made to derial the wagon (other than you of course) I think one scum could be amongst the players who are coasting or afak.
 
After I subbed ( didn't read pages before I subbed) and based on what I have seen so far then I made a post about leaning town on Ratchet because he came across as the person who's trying to think about the game and was not buying flower's claim


You as scum leaning. I already made myself clear about why I think so.

Jinri - I have no clue why she was leading wagon. Based on gameplay of what I have seen so far, she looks fine. But my doubt about her comes from what happened at the EoD.

Without lynch redirection, zem getting lynched makes very little sense especially when we had two leading wagons with equal votes.

Ace - one of his post did strike me weird about voting zem I guess but nothing much.

Tbh, I am confident that solving you, jinri and jan can give us atleast one scum and possibly 2 scums.

Michelle - nothing much on her.


And, considering the numbers of votes and voting behaviour at the end, with no efforts made to derial the wagon (other than you of course) I think one scum could be amongst the players who are coasting or afak.
i mean i can't be scum with ace since like, we both claim tp and melkor was already mp role

jinri showed up d1, asked who's usually leading town and dipped until last phase, so that's why i guess

i thought it's easy mislynch option, literally voting somoenoe who's not playing, but at this point who knows

michelle claimed ability to make night chat we're speaking in rn and gave census but it came from flower's role

night chat itself is nai, but i guess it's worth to say, it's been my top town read for a while but i'm paranoid about it recently
 

Reborn

Throughout Heaven & Earth,I alone am d Honored One
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i mean i can't be scum with ace since like, we both claim tp and melkor was already mp role

jinri showed up d1, asked who's usually leading town and dipped until last phase, so that's why i guess

i thought it's easy mislynch option, literally voting somoenoe who's not playing, but at this point who knows

michelle claimed ability to make night chat we're speaking in rn and gave census but it came from flower's role

night chat itself is nai, but i guess it's worth to say, it's been my top town read for a while but i'm paranoid about it recently
I forgot who claimed what. I am too old for this game lmao
 
I forgot who claimed what. I am too old for this game lmao
Reborn - i don't remember anything being claimed
The Orca - watcher
Charlie - double vp, protecting myself and target, there's more but i haven't claimed that yet
Flower- wishes, jail, kill
Xlaw - invest there was also some invest related passive but i don't remember
Mr. Reloaded - afaik nothing
KWEH - passive that tells people their flavour if they target him, post restriction
Alyssa the Lamb - duel
freckles - tree
Ratchet - afaik nothing
AceMarvel - neighbour + protection, protection from rolecrush
Michelle - night chat
Jan - some positive action
jinri - afaik nothing

There's also refilled. My ability was refilled at night
refill is yours aparently and i also can make people immune to redirections/bus drives
 

Fujishiro

Its going to be daijobu.
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A Noble Soul​

@Jan / Zoltan Chivay has been killed​



Zoltan Chivay

[Passive - Iron Grit] You are immune to bus drives.

[Passive - War Veteran] Your vote counts for 2 in the event that you are tied with another wagon.

[Active - Weapon stash] Target a player during the day and gift them one of the following one shots:

- An Axe: Target a player at night and destroy one of their x shots.
- A shield: Activate this ability at night to redirect one incoming action on you at random.
- A sword: Target a player at night to limit their ability usage to just 1 that night.

[Active - Encouraging Words] Target a player during the day and give them double action to one of their abilities the following night.[3-Shots]

Wincon: Eliminate all threats to your world​
@Zemmi has been revived for one cycle.

Night 3 ends
Day 4 begins
You have 24 hours to discuss


1- @Ali v2 replaced by @Reborn
2- @Naomi
3- @The Orca
4- @Polar Bear
5- @Charlie
6- @Flower
7- @Xlaw
8- @Yoho replaced by @Mr. Reloaded
9- @bittersweet
10- @bradland Replaced by @Zemmi
11- @Lord Melkor
12- @KWEH
13- @Alyssa the Lamb
14- @freckles
15- @Ratchet
16- @AceMarvel
17- @Michelle
18- @Yoshi replaced by @Jan
19- @jinri
20- @EkkoLoJinx

Subs

1- @Jan
 
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