Current Events Let's appreciate the New Monster Trio

[nik87]

These people never learnHave you guys already forget what happen in 2007?Deal with it, Luffy, Zoro and Sanji will always be Monster TrioSanji is literally 3 for a reasonIf Sanji is not part of the Monster Trio anymore then he should change his name to Yonji (which means 4) right?

It will be sad to watch Jinbe being restricted and dumbed down just so Sanjino can look better.
Fuk Sanjino, Jinbe should not be a victim of a plot.

 

[ShishioIsBack]

Look, i can get you 30 + versions, you get me just one that supports your point of view.

As you said, they can alter that image. There should be someone who sees things as you do, and alters it to suit your agument. Why the hell are all of these people making it so that it goes against it ?

Is every single artist redrawing or coloring that scene invested in making it seem like Sanji > Jimbe, or is it more likely that you are invested in the opposite ?

Idgaf about Sanji Jinbei
I am talking about Luffy Zoro

 

[Ice devil slayer]

Every year in 12 september we should pray for Sanji to return

I hope that he will retournr one day unless Yamato surpass him too

 

[Kuro Ashi]

The one actually drawn by the author that matters?

The point is that we look at that, and somehow we see different things. So we can only conclude that we need help here, since we somehow can not see the same thing.

So we can try to get other people's perspective who are not here debating this being invested in one argument or the other. How can we do that ? Colored versions or redraws.

What are the advantages ? As said, those doing them are very unlikely to all be in it arguing for a single outcome. If it's unclear, we should see differences between the many colored versions/redraws, instead of a unified take on the matter. Second advantage is that some of these are artist who earn their living from being competent at this kind of stuff. And this helps the initial point, if these guys don't differentiate from the casuals, everyone is agreeing on how that spread is meant to look like in regards to Jimbe standig behind Sanji, what incentive do we have to disagree ?

 

[yorosenpai]

The four main figures are Luffy, Zoro, Sanji and Jinbei. Luffy and Jinbei are the central ones, because it's Jinbei's first official full Strawhat spread.

Not everything revolves around Zoro and Sanji. Getting out the protectors and rulers to try and say one is half a millimetre in front of another is pointless, just use your eyes and see what the centre of the page is.

Wait this are 2 pages, and luffy stand with Zoro in the second page so is not true saying Jimbe and Luffy, cuz Luffy stand with Zoro in the second page. What I get from this panel is just a nice remind of what happen in fisher island.

In any case wait for the VZ chapter and you ll see that Luffy is drawn with Zoro separate from the rest strawhat on his left side.

 

[Tobra]

you are so childish if you think the author will throw away a dynamic of 20 years just because a fish that no body likes joined then you are a clown

that shit already happened in alabsta robin a character that looked one of the strongest characters at the time now look where she is and franky that seemed to have the upper hand in his fight against luffy now look how strong he is compared to the m3

i don’t believe that anyone seriously thinks sanji is out of m3 that isn’t baiting and trolling

you don’t have to make a thread every week about sanji bad we get it you hate sanji

 

[ranady]

You all just need a pair of glasses or some lessons on spatial awareness. It's obvious that Luffy is in front followed by Zoro and Sanji. Jimbe stands in the middle alongside the other GL members like Chopper, Robin, Brook and Franky.

Literally all of those are "closer" by your standards to Luffy than Zoro and Sanji, but not really. Because they are all in the background if you have a proper understanding of what's shown to us :namiriously:

Tbh @Kuro Ashi san is right. Sanji's position is in front of jinbei. Jinbei is tall af. Luffy is as tall as jinbei's navel. And sanji is just a bit taller than luffy so sanji's height will also around jinbei's navel.
From the spread, sanji's height is same level as jinbei's chest. It can happen because sanji is in front of jinbei. If sanji stands atleast exactly at the side of jinbei, he will be around navel, let alone behind jinbei.
It's just a matter of perspective. Jinbei stands a bit behind Luffy zoro sanji.

 

[Warchief Sanji D Goat]

It will be sad to watch Jinbe being restricted and dumbed down just so Sanjino can look better.
Fuk Sanjino, Jinbe shouldnt not be a victim of a plot.

Of course man, it's not like Jinbei already in his prime and Sanji is not even close to that and yet he's still strong

 

[Shimotsuki Fenaker]

My favorite thing about this debate is watching the Sanji fanboys move the goalposts and come up with new qualifications (popularity now?) for what, in canon, has only been mentioned three times in a twenty year series and has never been exercised as an explicit rule for the story. The amount of bullshit that’s been said about Jinbe ever since he said on FI, from him being Sanji’s equal because of Wadatsumi (still laughing my ass off at this one) to saying that he would die and would never actually join, is even more hilarious in retrospect as we see Jinbe be highlighted alongside Luffy and Zoro, because it demonstrates the depth of their insecurity regarding the only value they get from their favorite character, his strength in relation to others.

Meanwhile, Oda gives absolutely zero damns about the fanboys, and gives Jinbe the spotlight he damn well deserves as the second or third strongest member of the crew, while Sanji has to get a raid suit to be competitive against mid tier New World opponents. It’s okay though, Sanji fanboys, he’ll still be in the top five at least, after Yamato joins.

OEKaneki , well bro even though we disagree a lot but u made a good conclusion about this thread but i think u made it a little far shocking for Sanji fanboys can u be a little merciful ? I wanted to make this thread to show them what's oda intention and then step by step they can understand it but !
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It will be sad to watch Jinbe being restricted and dumbed down just so Sanjino can look better.
Fuk Sanjino, Jinbe shouldnt not be a victim of a plot.

True he is a Warlord and was hyped alongside supernovas by beast pirates while Sanji is unknown .

 

[Finalbeta]

By the way not to play devil's advocate

M3 was never a thought Oda had in mind by himself so he never truly transmitted it into his manga either

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

kuroashi is the last candiboi standing?

 

[Non]

Both Jinbe and Zoro have a first mate energy to them. If Luffy asked them both to join for no reason except for the fact that they are strong, and they were name dropped by another person, then of course they are in the monster trio. Sanji was asked by Luffy to join because he’s a cook and his fighting skills came after that fact.

 

[Tobra]

kuroashi is the last candiboi standing?

everyone else is sick of discussing topics they already discussed for the last 2 months

 

[thedarkdragon11]

I'll just leave it here: M3 and ZSJ are 2 different things...

 

[Warchief Sanji D Goat]

kuroashi is the last candiboi standing?

I mean I could have neg diff all these haters if I wanted to but I need to clear out my alerts first

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

I dont think sanji gets replaced
but zoro ,jinbei, luffy are taking spots in the chapter that would typically involve luffy , zoro and sanji. well , we'll see.

 

[Topi Jerami]

@Topi Jerami what if Yamato join us now what will happen to him ?

Below Jinbe but Sanji will be kicked even more.
No way a cook can win against a trained mace fighter..

 

[ShishioIsBack]

you are so childish if you think the author will throw away a dynamic of 20 years just because a fish that no body likes joined then you are a clown

that shit already happened in alabsta robin a character that looked one of the strongest characters at the time now look where she is and franky that seemed to have the upper hand in his fight against luffy now look how strong he is compared to the m3

i don’t believe that anyone seriously thinks sanji is out of m3 that isn’t baiting and trolling

you don’t have to make a thread every week about sanji bad we get it you hate sanji

Jinbei is actually very liked and respected character.
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Below Jinbe but Sanji will be kicked even more.
No way a cook can win against a trained mace fighter..

Mean while Zoro is officially the captain now

 

[Kuro Ashi]

Both Jinbe and Zoro have a first mate energy to them. If Luffy asked them both to join for no reason except for the fact that they are strong, and they were name dropped by another person, then of course they are in the monster trio. Sanji was asked by Luffy to join because he’s a cook and he’s fighting skills came after that fact.

That's true for Zoro. Luffy asked Jimbe to join because he helped him escape ID, fought with him at MF, saved his life at MF, and post MF encouraged him to remember about his crew.

Jimbe has an active role on the ship, he is the helmsman of the crew

He did not join the SH's just because he's a random tough guy that's good to have around to kick ass.

 

[Tobra]

Jinbei is actually very liked and respected character.

sure people like him but how many have him as their favorite character of top 5?