I pity you if you actually think you made anything resembling a valid point . They both fainted after being pierced and losing to much blood. It does not matter who did the damage .
You're comparing a stab through the shoulder via sickle, to the Devil Fruit with the highest offensive power.... Having your shoulder ripped open, to having your insides cooked by magma.... There is nothing to discuss here...
You're comparing a stab through the shoulder via sickle, to the Devil Fruit with the highest offensive power.... Having your shoulder ripped open, to having your insides cooked by magma.... There is nothing to discuss here...
You’re comparing getting magma punched through your chest saying a few words and then passing out. To getting stabbed with a large scythe in your chest area . Getting muscles ripped apart and bones shattered then tightening said muscles and engaging in a tug of war with your chest muscles and a worst generation members . Proceed to pull out said large scythe after the tug of war . Using haki and finishing your opponent to Jinbei immediately going to sleep. You’re definitely right . There is nothing to discuss here
I pity you if you actually think you made anything resembling a valid point . They both fainted after being pierced and losing to much blood. It does not matter who did the damage .
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Luffy and zoro has been using swords and devil fruit since they were children . Sanji has to use a power ranger suit to stop his piss poor performance in the new world . Major difference . Don’t compare Sanji to those two worst generation badasses
You cannot be serious . Zoro defeated pica Monet and killer . Sanji got his main forte broken by a non serious vergo and then got Neg diffed by doffy. Why would you even say something like that? You would have thought Sanji did something to vergo and dofffy . Lmfao
You’re comparing getting magma punched through your chest saying a few words and then passing out. To getting stabbed with a large scythe in your chest area . Getting muscles ripped apart and bones shattered then tightening said muscles and engaging in a tug of war with your chest muscles and a worst generation members . Proceed to pull out said large scythe after the tug of war . Using haki and finishing your opponent to Jinbei immediately going to sleep. You’re definitely right . There is nothing to discuss here
You cannot be serious . Zoro defeated pica Monet and killer . Sanji got his main forte broken by a non serious vergo and then got Neg diffed by doffy. Why would you even say something like that? You would have thought Sanji did something to vergo and dofffy . Lmfao
Of course zoro can put up a fight against doffy . Zoro is a lethal ryou Master even on dressrosa . Doffy will never block zoros attacks with one arm. Sanji did not one shot oven . Oven was up the next panel with no issues . Sheepshead? Lol using diable janbe to take out a gifter . Congratulations Sanji . Counter attacks against big mom crew? You mean his brook ceaser and choppers counter attack right ? Stop embarrassing yourself my man . Sanji has terrible feats
Of course zoro can put up a fight against doffy . Zoro is a lethal ryou Master even on dressrosa . Doffy will never block zoros attacks with one arm. Sanji did not one shot oven . Oven was up the next panel with no issues . Sheepshead? Lol using diable janbe to take out a gifter . Congratulations Sanji . Counter attacks against big mom crew? You mean his brook ceaser and choppers counter attack right ? Stop embarrassing yourself my man . Sanji has terrible feats
Well for one correct me if I’m wrong but we never do get to see what the crew did to counter attack against big moms crew, just that Sanji was gonna do something. Unless you’re talking to anime scene with Sanji Brook and chopper using Cesar as a net for frozen cannon balls.
And you’re massively downplaying Oven vs Sanji. The dude was hit so hard so fast he couldn’t even respond to Sanjis attack. He was the first straw hat to beat Katakuris Haki of observation with his own.
Luffy just used Gear Fourth on a fodder enemy. Why are you criticizing Sanjis use of Diablo Jambe.
Well for one correct me if I’m wrong but we never do get to see what the crew did to counter attack against big moms crew, just that Sanji was gonna do something. Unless you’re talking to anime scene with Sanji Brook and chopper using Cesar as a net for frozen cannon balls.
And you’re massively downplaying Oven vs Sanji. The dude was hit so hard so fast he couldn’t even respond to Sanjis attack. He was the first straw hat to beat Katakuris Haki of observation with his own.
Luffy just used Gear Fourth on a fodder enemy. Why are you criticizing Sanjis use of Diablo Jambe.
You just stated Zoro’s feat against an admiral so i dont even have to say anything and also Zoro hasn’t run in to the meme yet so we have no idea how he’d go against her.
But yeah both Jinbe and Zoro have decent feats against top tiers so Zoro > Jinbe or Jinbe > Zoro it doesnt really matter, all that matters is that right now them and Luffy make up the M3.
Well for one correct me if I’m wrong but we never do get to see what the crew did to counter attack against big moms crew, just that Sanji was gonna do something. Unless you’re talking to anime scene with Sanji Brook and chopper using Cesar as a net for frozen cannon balls.
And you’re massively downplaying Oven vs Sanji. The dude was hit so hard so fast he couldn’t even respond to Sanjis attack. He was the first straw hat to beat Katakuris Haki of observation with his own.
Luffy just used Gear Fourth on a fodder enemy. Why are you criticizing Sanjis use of Diablo Jambe.
The scene vs big mom shop actually happened nami talked about it in zou. Oven got hit and got up right away he shrugged it off. Sanji dodged a jelly bean from katakuri But guess who else did in the manga . Gotti from capones crew . Congratulations Sanji I guess that makes you and Gotti coo specialist . Like I told you before Sanjis feats suck
It’s also in Odas style for the arc where Luffy wins by earning the respect of his enemy. For Sanji to beat the big bad of the arc with his talents outside fighting.
Whole cake island and the final fight wasn’t a traditional shonen victory I’ll give you that.
-That’s impressive, but again we’re getting to the point that beating the admirals is an extreme possibility. Explain to me how a man nearly 50 will suddenly close the gap between himself and admirals that we’re clearly outclassing him
Come on you should know by now that age has nothing to do with strength in One Piece. Look at Franky he was 34 Pre timeskip and he’s grown much stronger at age 36 does this mean that Franky is near his limit ? Also Jinbe isnt human he’s a fishman, his natural potential is much higher than that of humans
An extremely weak Linlin, using an extremely situational attack called the Vegabond Drill. When he goes full Gaara of the Sand, and carry’s a tank of water with him, and can bust out the vegabond drill on command. We can talk some more. But seeing as we seen that when fighting an healthy big mom, he literally needed help to toss her away. That Vegabond Drill loses some of its impact.
- An extremely weak Big Mom how was she extremely weak ? She was weakened yes but she was still in her right mind and had haki and D.F abilities. BM without haki and D.F and mindless oneshot a commander in Queen.
Come on you should know by now that age has nothing to do with strength in One Piece. Look at Franky he was 34 Pre timeskip and he’s grown much stronger at age 36 does this mean that Franky is near his limit ? Also Jinbe isnt human he’s a fishman, his natural potential is much higher than that of humans
Well for one Whitebeard, was at one point weak enough that himself Linlin, and Kaidos could all attack Roger, and roger survives. Then got strong enough to be recognized as the man closest to being Rogers equal, then age caught up to him, ending with him dying at the hands Blackbeard. Who even points out that age had caught up to him. So clearly age does play a factor into one piece. A man can reach a physical peak, and declines.
Jinbei being on the other side of physical prime. How does it make sense that he would begin to compete with Luffy Zoro and Sanji all under thirty, all way below what could be considered a physical prime for humans.
- An extremely weak Big Mom how was she extremely weak ? She was weakened yes but she was still in her right mind and had haki and D.F abilities. BM without haki and D.F and mindless oneshot a commander in Queen.
We can agree he wasn’t a weak warlord but being a warlord isn’t the same as it once was. We’ve been defeating warlords since Croc, and we’ve seen the hyper strong Doffy, and the joke Buggy. Both get the name of Warlord. So we don’t really know where Jinbei scaled in the grander scale of the one piece world
so every time Zoro cuts with Enma he’s showing weakness? Luffy literally used Gear fourth, to destroy a fodder character, is that a display of weakness?
The raid suit is a power up on power with the Gears and Zoro new sword. Yet only one is criticized when it’s used.
I don't care about what ability they use to take down fodders, thats not my point.
I'm talking about Sanji specifically, Oda didn't need to give him raidsuit as a powerup because he could have gotten stronger on his own just like he did before. It make sense that Zoro getting a new sword increase his power, it makes sense when luffy get new forms because they always had that, unlike Sanji. He was called Black leg sanji for a reason, not raid suit Sanji
so every time Zoro cuts with Enma he’s showing weakness? Luffy literally used Gear fourth, to destroy a fodder character, is that a display of weakness?
The raid suit is a power up on power with the Gears and Zoro new sword. Yet only one is criticized when it’s used.
It’s a living parasite sword that enabled Zoro to causally lop of the side of a cliff when he intended to cut down a tree. Instant power up if I ever saw one.
I don't care about what ability they use to take down fodders, thats not my point.
I'm talking about Sanji specifically, Oda didn't need to give him raidsuit as a powerup because he could have gotten stronger on his own just like he did before. It make sense that Zoro getting a new sword increase his power, it makes sense when luffy get new forms because they always had that, unlike Sanji. He was called Black leg sanji for a reason, not raid suit Sanji
He’s using the suit in conjunction with his inherent abilities. It’s not like he’s suddenly a gun slinging fist fighter or so,etching stupid like that.
It’s a living parasite sword that enabled Zoro to causally lop of the side of a cliff when he intended to cut down a tree. Instant power up if I ever saw one.
He’s using the suit in conjunction with his inherent abilities. It’s not like he’s suddenly a gun slinging fist fighter or so,etching stupid like that.
It’s a living parasite sword that enabled Zoro to causally lop of the side of a cliff when he intended to cut down a tree. Instant power up if I ever saw one.
He’s using the suit in conjunction with his inherent abilities. It’s not like he’s suddenly a gun slinging fist fighter or so,etching stupid like that.
Zoros haki cut of the cliff . Everything the sword does uses zoros own haki . He already tamed it so now it’s just a regualr sword . How is a sword using zoros own strength to do something a powerup. Meanwhile Sanji now has a shield . Spend boosters and can now go invisible
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