Mihawk vs Kaido and Big Mom

[Seraphoenix]

That never happened though. He said his blade knows no restraint which literally means even if he doesn't actually try, Luffy can still die which he would have if like 1 million people didn't try to save luffy.

Other translations have him saying he won't hold back. Then we saw his best feat to date which is cutting the iceberg. Serious MIhawk failed to take out pre-skip Luffy. Not how Kujzan was about to one-panel Luffy. Note how Akainu was about to one panel Luffy.

Kuzan=Akainu>Mihawk

Depends on the translation and how you interpret it. Others say his blade knows no restraint or simply "I won't be merciful". Doesn't mean he would go all out. As it stands, Mihawk has portrayal over Shanks as the WSS. Why would he have a speech about the desire for Zoro to surpass him, even train him, if he could just fight Shanks? Why would he be scared of fighting Shanks while at the same time training someone he believes will beat him too?

Read above. What does Shanks have to do with this? Shanks thinks a match would be competitive and as far as we know he isn't delusional. Mihawk objects on the grounds of his arm, not his strength.

Wait Mihawk's Goal was to test what is so special about Luffy and he got the answer during the internal monologue he had during Vista fight. So where did Mihawk fail lmao?

See how garbage your bait is? At least try something that is hard to debunk lmao

Yes and the test ended when Mihawk couldn't get past Vista. He failed. Just like when he wanted to test WB and failed.

 

[HA001]

Other translations have him saying he won't hold back. Then we saw his best feat to date which is cutting the iceberg. Serious MIhawk failed to take out pre-skip Luffy. Not how Kujzan was about to one-panel Luffy. Note how Akainu was about to one panel Luffy.

Kuzan=Akainu>Mihawk

Read above. What does Shanks have to do with this? Shanks thinks a match would be competitive and as far as we know he isn't delusional. Mihawk objects on the grounds of his arm, not his strength.

Yes and the test ended when Mihawk couldn't get past Vista. He failed. Just like when he wanted to test WB and failed.

He objects on shanks strength or he wouldnt fight zoro cause he lost an eye.

 

[Seraphoenix]

What? It was a team battle of both sides, Kaido had like an army backing him up.

But Kinnemon and Kaido had 1v1 encounter, Kinnemon neg diffed his attack and then cut his ass up mean while no scabbard interfered.
Brooo lmaoooo you okay????

So he was in a team battle? Thanks for playing.

Where's that coming from ?

Have Denjiro/Ashura clashed with a Top Tier?

They clashed with both jack and Kaido.

You know Jack? The dude that Fujitora needed Sengoku and Tsuru's help to beat?

 

[HA001]

So he was in a team battle? Thanks for playing.

They clashed with both jack and Kaido.

You know Jack? The dude that Fujitora needed Sengoku and Tsuru's help to beat?

Sengoku never fought.

 

[Seraphoenix]

He objects on shanks strength or he wouldnt fight zoro cause he lost an eye.

Na. He says he won't fight now that Shanks 'has but one arm'. That's Stephen's translation.

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Sengoku never fought.

Headcanon.

 

[HA001]

Na. He says he won't fight now that Shanks 'has but one arm'. That's Stephen's translation.

Because hes weaker.

 

[MarineHQ]

They clashed with both jack and Kaido.

You know Jack? The dude that Fujitora needed Sengoku and Tsuru's help to beat?

So ? This just means that Kaido is much weaker than people expected.

You're objectively wrong. The VC confirmed that Sengoku wasn't part of it and knowing your history with vivre cards, you better fucking not oposse that.

 

[ShishioIsBack]

Other translations have him saying he won't hold back. Then we saw his best feat to date which is cutting the iceberg. Serious MIhawk failed to take out pre-skip Luffy. Not how Kujzan was about to one-panel Luffy. Note how Akainu was about to one panel Luffy.

Kuzan=Akainu>Mihawk

Others translations mean fuck all

Direct Japanese Translation and Viz (official) States his blade knows no restrain

What do you mean Mihawk failed to? Mihawk wrecked Luffy just as bad if not worse than Kuzan did

Yes and the test ended when Mihawk couldn't get past Vista. He failed. Just like when he wanted to test WB and failed.

What are you talking about? Test ended when Mihawk knew about Luffy's special ability. Where did Mihawk fail?
What was Mihawk's goal? To find out what is Luffy's special ability
What was the outcome? Mihawk found out what is special about Luffy

Where did Mihawk fail? Again you okay bro? Forgot to take the meds?

 

[Seraphoenix]

Because hes weaker.

Nope. Shanks doesn't think so. Shanks clashed equally with a WB in WSM condition. Mihawk admitted inferiority to a weaker WB at MF.

 

[comrade]

Na. He says he won't fight now that Shanks 'has but one arm'. That's Stephen's translation.

Yeah, because as rivals, when Shanks had both arms, they were equal. And then Shanks received a handicap, which means he got inferior. Also, why does the WSS title not apply to Shanks?

 

[ShishioIsBack]

Mihawk objects on the grounds of his arm, not his strength.

What does that even mean?
Why does Mihawk think its unfair to fight Shanks with one arm?

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Nope. Shanks doesn't think so. Shanks clashed equally with a WB in WSM condition. Mihawk admitted inferiority to a weaker WB at MF.

Never happened.
The whole World accepted inferiority to WB when they didn't take exception to his title
Mihawk was the first one to take exception
"True distance between that man (WB) and us (the whole world) including Shanks seems rather small"

Obviously that's just Mihawk's casual glance, doesn't mean he knows exactly how strong WB is. But that was just his response to Garp and Sengoku hyping the shit outta WB, Mihawk was not impressed.

If he was, he woulda gone to WB and wrecked his ass. It would take Primebeard to even compete with Mihawk, though Mihawk would still wreck him

 

[Seraphoenix]

So ? This just means that Kaido is much weaker than people expected.

You're objectively wrong. The VC confirmed that Sengoku wasn't part of it and knowing your history with vivre cards, you better fucking not oposse that.

Post the vivre card confirming it.

Others translations mean fuck all

Direct Japanese Translation and Viz (official) States his blade knows no restrain

What do you mean Mihawk failed to? Mihawk wrecked Luffy just as bad if not worse than Kuzan did



What are you talking about? Test ended when Mihawk knew about Luffy's special ability. Where did Mihawk fail?
What was Mihawk's goal? To find out what is Luffy's special ability
What was the outcome? Mihawk found out what is special about Luffy

Where did Mihawk fail? Again you okay bro? Forgot to take the meds?

So Mr haki god can't control his blade?

He said he won't hold back and then gave his best feat that you wank every single day. He struggled to tag Luffy. Meanwhile the other admirals did it easily. Does Mihawk push Akainu past pocket diff?

He took out his sword to try and fight Luffy. He failed at his goal of fighting Luffy due to Vista bullying him.

 

[Albino 👑]

What do you mean that didn't go anywhere?
Mihawk was canonically supressing himself because attacks he used on Vista were smaller than he used on Daz Bones.
And he was both mentally and physically distracted for several seconds (which is a long time in MHS characters fighting) and Vista despite not holding back failed to land an attack.

That effectively confirms that Vista is a complete bug next to Mihawk.
No Yonko commander has been shown to be as much weaker than a Yonko, as Vista was shown than Mihawk.

I mean it legit ended with them choosing not to fight eachother anymore with both being fine afterwards
Aka it didn't go anywhere

 

[Seraphoenix]

Yeah, because as rivals, when Shanks had both arms, they were equal. And then Shanks received a handicap, which means he got inferior. Also, why does the WSS title not apply to Shanks?

WSS is an in-verse title. Per the actual manga they were even before he lost his arm. They never fought again after that. Is Shanks delusional? He proposes a match and thinks it will be competitive. Do you think he would do so if he couldn't fight at least the same level when they were equalling each other? Obviously not. Mihawk objects because of honour and the arm. Not because of strength.

Yes he lost his arm but only years later he became a Yonko. Why wasn't he a Yonko when he was equal to MIhawk? Because WSS isn't strong enough to be a Yonko. That's why it took so long to become one.

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g2g. @Van remember this thread being open the next time someone makes Roger vs BM.

 

[Hakuba-EneL]

They eat the mihawk with his sword

 

[comrade]

I mean it legit ended with them choosing not to fight eachother anymore with both being fine afterwards
Aka it didn't go anywhere

Vista is a WB top commander. Of course Mihawk would need some effort, including Haki, which Mihawk was not interested to do. He wasn't even interested in finishing off fodder Krieg, even though Krieg attacked Mihawk. Mihawk postponed the match out of respect, since they clashed out of different motives, instead of fighting for the sake of the duel.

On the other hand we have Big Mom being trolled by fodders for 2 arcs, having a prolonged fight with Brook using her main weapons and yelling at him why he wouldn't go down. With Jinbe throwing Big Mom over and Nico Robin rolling her into a wall. Her being unable to catch up to a tank, and Kaido being fucked up by Kinemon and Raizou. Lol.

Is Shanks delusional? He proposes a match and thinks it will be competitive.

He asked whether Mihawk came for a fight and Mihawk said he won't fight a one armed has been. If both were rivals for a prolonged time, without one surpassing another, how comes Shanks ended up stronger even though losing an arm?

 

[Fujishiro]

Mihawk has an EOS extreme diff fight with Napoleon while BM and Kaido produce her next child.

 

[Seraphoenix]

He asked whether Mihawk came for a fight and Mihawk said he won't fight a one armed has been. If both were rivals for a prolonged time, without one surpassing another, how comes Shanks ended up stronger even though losing an arm?

Actually he calls him a bastard not a has-been.

How? By fighting and taking over territory in the NW. We know that the Yonko skirmished with WB himself for territory. How would BM for instance know what it takes to beat Shanks if she didn't clash with him? How would the marines know the crew is impregnable (Invincible) if they weren't tested in the NW? Meanwhile Mihawk was safe hanging out in East Blue.

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I mean it legit ended with them choosing not to fight eachother anymore with both being fine afterwards
Aka it didn't go anywhere

b b b but the imaginary stress lines

 

[HA001]

Actually he calls him a bastard not a has-been.

How? By fighting and taking over territory in the NW. We know that the Yonko skirmished with WB himself for territory. How would BM for instance know what it takes to beat Shanks if she didn't clash with him? How would the marines know the crew is impregnable (Invincible) if they weren't tested in the NW? Meanwhile Mihawk was safe hanging out in East Blue.

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b b b but the imaginary stress lines

Lies yonko havent seen each other in decades pre luffys story

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No headcanon it was said sengoku never fought

 

[comrade]

How? By fighting and taking over territory in the NW. We know that the Yonko skirmished with WB himself for territory. How would BM for instance know what it takes to beat Shanks if she didn't clash with him? How would the marines know the crew is impregnable (Invincible) if they weren't tested in the NW? Meanwhile Mihawk was safe hanging out in East Blue.

As HA pointed out, Yonko don't really engage in battles with each other. Like Kaido and Big Mom not seeing each other in decades. And when Rockstar told Whitebeard that Shanks wants to meet, Whitebeard also said that this is a name he hasn't heard in a while.

And Mihawk wasn't chilling in east blue, he was fighting strong swordsmen until no one was left. He goes as far as to train the next WSS himself because he can't find a worthy opponent, yet you think he runs away from challenges.