Who Can Save Wano (and us)?


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The fuck? Kuroobi was never confirmed to be the second strongest, at all lmao. Zoro was also nerfed to oblivion at Arlong Park. Ryuuma was 100% stronger than Absalom. Jabra had a lower doriki than Kaki so no. Sanji teamed up with Jinbe to fight Wadatsumi and if you are going to use your dumb logic to say Wadastumi was stronger than Hyouzou while Hachi somehow wasn't stronger than Kuroobi, then something is clearly wrong with you.

And Franky fought Nero who is clearly stronger than Wanze/T-Bone so I guess Franky is stronger than either character right? Why the fuck are we counting Sea Train fights and Duval??? Literally no evidence for Kuroobi, Absalom, Wadatsumi or Wanze being stronger than Hacchi, Ryuuma, Hyouzou or T Bone respectively. I'm not even going to discuss the Kaku one, Oda spelt that shit out to you and you still ignore it. Lmfao.
- Kuroobi is confirmed First Mate. Do you want to go and say hes still weaker ? Zoro being nerfed is irrelevant since he wouldve never fought Kuroobi.

- Where is your proof Ryuma is stronger. My proof is that Absaldom is his leader and in the heoarchy he is above him. Ryuma is stuck using Brook's fighter style, and the reason he is stronger is due to having a toughet body than Brook. Absaldom's body shits on Ryuma's. So again where is your proof that Ryuma > Absaldom.

- Dourki is only for base stats. Jabra literally said that he will be stronger using his DF.

- Wadatsumi is obviously above Hyouzou. His feats shit on Hyouszou. Theres literally denying that lmao. Go cry.

- Franky is irrelevant in this discussion we are only discussing Zoro and Sanji's opponents.

- Why tf not. Sanji fought someone superior to Zoro. Who only fought fodder Flying Fish. If we count Zoro fighting Ohm....and use it against Sanji who never fought an opponent properly in Skypeia. Why not use the start of Saboundy against Zoro.
 
Why don't you take the circumstantial feats that either character performed? Absalom did jack shit and hid behind his guns and invisibility power. Sanji played around with him the entire time and only got stabbed to not let Nami's "Image" get tainted.

Ryuuma did Brook's fencing maneuver's on crack basically, poking air holes in walls, slicing buildings in half, all while giving Zoro a moderately hard time as a shadow.
Absalom was portrayed as a physical beast combined with a tricky ability, he tanked Nami's lightning and was almost unfazed by it, Sanji defeated him because Sanji knew how to counter his ability , saying he is weak because he lost to someone who studied his fruit for years is ridiculous
 
- Kuroobi is confirmed First Mate. Do you want to go and say hes still weaker ? Zoro being nerfed is irrelevant since he wouldve never fought Kuroobi.

- Where is your proof Ryuma is stronger. My proof is that Absaldom is his leader and in the heoarchy he is above him. Ryuma is stuck using Brook's fighter style, and the reason he is stronger is due to having a toughet body than Brook. Absaldom's body shits on Ryuma's. So again where is your proof that Ryuma > Absaldom.

- Dourki is only for base stats. Jabra literally said that he will be stronger using his DF.

- Wadatsumi is obviously above Hyouzou. His feats shit on Hyouszou. Theres literally denying that lmao. Go cry.

- Franky is irrelevant in this discussion we are only discussing Zoro and Sanji's opponents.

- Why tf not. Sanji fought someone superior to Zoro. Who only fought fodder Flying Fish. If we count Zoro fighting Ohm....and use it against Sanji who never fought an opponent properly in Skypeia. Why not use the start of Saboundy against Zoro.
- Zoro was fucking dying nacasyahow
- Spandam is the leader Lucci there fore robin >>> Luffy. That’s your logic
- Sanji tag teamed him
 
Ive read the spoilers. And so what. They can make Kaido and hurt him. Thats enough to say that anything less than Zoro cutting Kaido's head off....is not impressive. If thats all hes gonna do in the arc.
Bro you sounded stupid right now. Luffy can hurt Doffy with a regular punch to the face, but an Kong gun and KKG is totally different. If he replicate Oden feat alone thats impressive since 4 commander level guys couldn't
 
It was Zoro and Luffy vs. Hawkins and Hawkins nailed Zoro so hard that he had to be treated by O-Tsuru :suresure:


Toei knows a lot more than we do, and they show stuff that is not in the manga. So, it counts.
HA. Zoro killed Hawkins more than 2 times in the anime lmao, if you think Hawkins blocking Raid Suit Sanji is canon then that is also canon. Also, Luffy didn't do shit to Hawkins when they were riding the huge ass dog
 
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