US Presidental Race : 2020

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Fallen Prince

fuck the second amendment

outdated nonsense from the 18th century
The whole point of second amendment is to rise up against govt tyranny.

However you wont say this if you were raised in south , Most love guns period. Even Democrats here dont talk about taking away guns , i really doubt any law will help here.
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Yes I'm pretty all the crime will go away if we take away guns, it's not like criminals wouldn't try to get ahold of weapons in an illegal manner and won't try to harm you if you run into them. :myman:


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I am against taking away the guns and i am one of those libtards lol. However , i think automatic guns should be banned to civilians .
 
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Fallen Prince

americans always defend the second amendment then get surprised when they keep getting shootings every 5 mins

hmmmmm wonder what the correlation is
Homicidal rates are high in central America.

Its not easy to outlaw guns considering criminal gets access to weapons easily across the border.
 
Homicidal rates are high in central America.

Its not easy to outlaw guns considering criminal gets access to weapons easily across the border.
Maybe if Republican's weren't so heavily influence by the NRA and ASSHOLES like Wayne Lapieereee or whatever that piece of human garbage's name is, Bi partisan laws could be passed to help decrease gun death rates. Same way we have to pass tests to get a drivers license

Suicides are the highest percentage of gun deaths in US at around 60%

https://giffords.org/gun-violence-statistics/

https://health.ucdavis.edu/what-you-can-do/facts.html
 
americans always defend the second amendment then get surprised when they keep getting shootings every 5 mins

hmmmmm wonder what the correlation is
The reason why there's more shootings is because leaders like to point fingers at each other for political gain instead of addressing the problem that caused it, school shootings? the mentally unstable who go unnoticed because let's be honest, our educational system is also a joke. Street shootings? Poverty, Drugs, and communities who enable this behavior with their no snitching policies(especially here in Illinois) that prevent cops from actually catching the culprits lol.

Not as a simple issue as you think. Guns aren't bad, the people are.
 

RayanOO

Lazy is the way
The reason why there's more shootings is because leaders like to point fingers at each other for political gain instead of addressing the problem that caused it, school shootings? the mentally unstable who go unnoticed because let's be honest, our educational system is also a joke. Street shootings? Poverty, Drugs, and communities who enable this behavior with their no snitching policies(especially here in Illinois) that prevent cops from actually catching the culprits lol.

Not as a simple issue as you think. Guns aren't bad, the people are.
Yeah you are maybe right about the state of the school system, the poverty etc but if those people didn't have guns they would do a lot less casualties

People are bad but if you put guns into their hands those "bad" people can do lot worse than without guns

The more guns the more people will use them
 
Yeah you are maybe right about the state of the school system, the poverty etc but if those people didn't have guns they would do a lot less casualties

People are bad but if you put guns into their hands those "bad" people can do lot worse than without guns
main issue if lobbying in congress, groups like the NRA can create their own laws and be able to sell a shitload of guns, it's why states have such few regulations on purchasing guns
 
Yeah you are maybe right about the state of the school system, the poverty etc but if those people didn't have guns they would do a lot less casualties

People are bad but if you put guns into their hands those "bad" people can do lot worse than without guns
If they didn't have guns, they would find a way to get one, which is why there's also a high rate of weapons trafficking. Considering the law enforcement here is imploding, and you get guns off the market, how do you intend to stay safe from psychos who still get their guns off the street? you're gonna hug it out? sing songs?
 

RayanOO

Lazy is the way
If they didn't have guns, they would find a way to get one, which is why there's also a high rate of weapons trafficking. Considering the law enforcement here is imploding, and you get guns off the market, how do you intend to stay safe from psychos who still get their guns off the street? you're gonna hug it out? sing songs?
Drug dealers, criminals etc can maybe have weapons illegally okay (like in the rest of the world) but what about the rest ? The youngs ones, the school boys, the people etc won't be able to put their hands on weapons if its illegal. This will already change things a lot.

And you stay safe from "psychos" thanks to the police and official persons who are allowed to enforce the law and carry a gun.
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Europeans countries dont allow weapons everywhere and trust me we are somewhat safe and it seems quite safer than the US.

Having guns don't protect you from psychos, having guns increase the problem.
 
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Drug dealers, criminals etc can maybe have weapons illegally okay (like on the rest of the world) but what about the rest ? The youngs ones, the school boys, the people etc won't be able to put their hands on weapons if its illegal. This will already change thins a lot.

And you stay safe from "psychos" thanks to the police and official person who are allowed to enforce the law and carry a gun.
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Europeans countries dont allow weapons everywhere and trust me we are somewhat safe and it seems quite safer than the US
When it comes to gun violence ever 1st world country is safer than the US by a heavy margin
 
Drug dealers, criminals etc can maybe have weapons illegally okay (like on the rest of the world) but what about the rest ? The youngs ones, the school boys, the people etc won't be able to put their hands on weapons if its illegal. This will already change thins a lot.

And you stay safe from "psychos" thanks to the police and official person who are allowed to enforce the law and carry a gun.
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Europeans countries dont allow weapons everywhere and trust me we are somewhat safe and it seems quite safer than the US
Does the quite opposite actually, as I said, if their intentions is to inflict mass casualties, one way or another, they will get a gun, legally or not.

European countries deal with stabbings and beheadings instead, not much better, How's France doing btw?

Removing guns NOW especially with the rioting, lack of trust for law enforcement, won't solve crimes or school shootings, it just won't, unless you can stop the trafficking altogether, you're gonna see another mass shooting happen. And as these riotings also show, you don't need a gun to cause destruction or harm.
 

RayanOO

Lazy is the way
European countries deal with stabbings and beheadings instead, not much better, How's France doing btw?
We talk about terrorism here. And mostly with knifes. And those ones can find weapons or guns by illegal traffic etc. Not at all the same subject.

But nobody can buy guns legally so this stops normal people to shoot at each other easily. Only police can do that.

Allowing people to carry guns in France won't help us to solve the terrorism problem at all, this will only lead to more murders both side.

The day we allow people to make their own justice carrying a gun, it means we would have lost against the terrorism.

Imagine if those amateur terrorists had guns.....

Does the quite opposite actually, as I said, if their intentions is to inflict mass casualties, one way or another, they will get a gun, legally or not.
For normal people it will be a lot harder to cause mass murder if they don't have guns at home and don't allow to buy guns easily.

Stopping completly people from causing murder is impossible, and stopping the illegal traffic of weapons is extra extra hard. So yeah people will maybe find a way to buy them. But we have to make that the hardest possible.

less guns = less casualties : and this is proven. Just look at the numbers.


you don't need a gun to cause destruction or harm.
But with guns you can cause a lot more destruction.

You can harm people with anything : home knife, a car, anything but with a gun it is a lot more easy to harm a lot of people.
 
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We talk about terrorism here. And mostly with knifes. And those ones can find weapons or guns by illegal traffic etc. Not at all the same subject.

But nobody can buy guns so this stops normal people people to shoot at each other easily. Only police can do that.

Allowing people to carry guns in France won't help us to solve the terrorism problem at all, this will only lead to more murders both side.

The day we allow people to make their own justice carrying a gun, it means we would have lost against the terrorism.

Imagine if those amateur terrorists had guns.....



For normal people it will be a lot harder to cause mass murder if they don't have guns at home and don't allow to buy guns easily.

Stopping completly people from causing murder is impossible, and stopping the illegal traffic of weapons is extra extra hard. So yeah people will maybe find a way to buy them. But we have to make that the hardest possible.

less guns = less casualties : and this is proven. Just look at the numbers.




But with guns you can cause a lot more destruction.

You can harm people with anything : home knife, a car, anything but with a gun it is a lot more easy to harm a lot of people.
Makes it easier yeah, but it's not the source of the problem and it never was however, I do think there should be better policies/laws to help prevent atrocities like mass shootings , but to get rid of them altogether? yeah that's not gonna work out in this age.
 
My favorite, Melania Trump said in her speech, we're a country of hope not fear. The most ironic quote maybe of all time.

All they do is fearmonger. To connect the convo, all they've said is driven fear that Joe Biden is "going to take your guns" which he obviously isnt true LOL
 
My favorite, Melania Trump said in her speech, we're a country of hope not fear. The most ironic quote maybe of all time.

All they do is fearmonger. To connect the convo, all they've said is driven fear that Joe Biden is "going to take your guns" which he obviously isnt true LOL
The Democrats have been fear mongering since the 2016 elections, dude what did Trump do to you to be this paranoid and spiteful?
 
The Democrats have been fear mongering since the 2016 elections, dude what did Trump do to you to be this paranoid?
Nooooo they havent, it's a republican conspiracy talking point, similar to those QAnon people

Trump just lies and fear mongers: Supresses voters, lied about debt and deficit, lied about draining swamp, locked children up in cages, made asylum laws unnecessarily tougher, the list goes on, and my final one COVID.

He's lied 20000 times, LOL
 
The Democrats have been fear mongering since the 2016 elections, dude what did Trump do to you to be this paranoid and spiteful?
Benn likes to think Trump lies about everything, It's his go to.
Democrats have gone insane, all they cover is "trump, trump, trump." They smear every little thing and hide and coverup anything that would be bad for their side. Media and Politicians alike.
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Nooooo they havent, it's a republican conspiracy talking point, similar to those QAnon people

Trump just lies and fear mongers: Supresses voters, lied about debt and deficit, lied about draining swamp, locked children up in cages, made asylum laws unnecessarily tougher, the list goes on, and my final one COVID.

He's lied 20000 times, LOL
No that was Obama and Joe. Stop your lying.
 
Benn likes to think Trump lies about everything, It's his go to.
Democrats have gone insane, all they cover is "trump, trump, trump." They smear every little thing and hide and coverup anything that would be bad for their side. Media and Politicians alike.
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No that was Obama and Joe. Stop your lying.
If only you were able to use critical thinking.

Trump Lies
QAvagerblade: Obama and Joe want to take you money and you guns and he wasnt born in USA
 
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