US Presidental Race : 2020

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Hahaha, you pushed me by bringing that up again...I was gonna let it go, but you wanted that, so you got it. You haven’t been clear on any of your positions, language barrier or not, and I’m not the only person here who thinks that. Conversely, you’ve tried to twist everyone’s words here in plain view with each and every comment...y’all love to absolve yourselves of the same bad behavior you exhibit, but you get defensive when challenged. Can’t have it both ways, babe.
by bringing up what? You being salty over definition in your own native language while feeling the need to bring up me not being a native speaker?

If you think i havent been clear on my positions, ask about them isntead of making stupid assumptions? i have elaborated on the "no problem" part even though i thought it was clear enough the first time, so its apparent im willing to clear up any misunderstanding, even if i dont see any reason for the misunderstanding.

What words have i twisted? Feel free to quote them and if i have misrepresented/misunderstood anything, we can talk about it.

And nice generalization at the end again, 10/10.
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If you dont support Biden, you "usually" support the other candidate running for president...
what about jorgensen, kanye west, and that other dude whose name im not remembering?

The people who do not believe Trumps false claims are lying are excusing Trump.
No, unless you still wanna ignore the actual definition of that term.

I see the correlation, to add to the Covid, when he says to people/his doctor to take hydroxycloroquine or inject bleach or herd mentality works. What do you see that as? Do you count a false statement as lying? For me I see both those as blatant lying. I can explain my position why I think that as well, but wanted to hear your answer
I dont count every false statement as lying, we've been over this lol. He did lie about covid though, knowing how serious it is and that its airborne while still downplaying it when speaking to the general public. They will argue he didnt want to cause a panic, but i dont think thats a valid reason to lie about something so important, at all.

I already adressed hydroxysomething. And he didnt tell people to inject bleach, he was talking about professionals researching about a way to use that inside of the body. Is that a stupid statement? Sure. Did he tell citizens to inject bleach? No. Unless you are referring to something else
 
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Jew D. Boy

I Can Go Lower
nice generalization at the end again, 10/10.
Again, you want to make this seem like a powerful statement when Ravager did the same thing and you ignored it, so kindly generalize my asshole. I’ve shown you multiple instances of you twisting my words or trying to distance yourself from your own, so just refer back to this very conversation, I’m not doing all your work for you.
 

Uncle Van

Monké Don't Do Taxes
If you dont support Biden, you "usually" support the other candidate running for president...
And that excuses you from labeling me a Trump supporter for disagreeing with you how?

The people who do not believe Trumps false claims are lying are excusing Trump.
By definition they are not. It is a fact that giving false statements intentionally is lying. Trump made false statements....you either assume Trump was intentionally lying or is disregarding textbook definitions based on feeling.

I was hostile BECAUSE YOU DID THIS.... people who use caps locks tend to YELL,
You got aggressive because you took me cap locking one word to bring emphasis to it as me being hostile?

I said Biden lies, he admitted it when discussing 1994 crime bill.
Ok?

I believe, if I stated it as "fact" i retract that. Trump has no morals are based upon the bills he's past, the law's he's enacted, decisions he's made in office.
So you assume he has NO morals?

COVID, trying to get rid of Women's abortion rights, trying to get rid of ACA, not listening to scientist. Keystone Pipeline, Him constantly Fearmongering, Id say 2nd Stimulus but that's all Mitchell Mconnell aka Moscow Mitch. If you dont think those are immoral then idk what to say.
Does Trump have NO morals or is lacking them? Its entirely based on perspective and personal preferences. Please dont claim I agree with Trump on any of the things you mentioned......

According to you it isnt a false statement because he believed it to be true at the time
Its factually a false statement....its only a lie if given intentionally.....you doing this on purpose?

You're making lots of assumptions along with relying on labels and personal preferences as justification......this doesnt in any way make me a Trump supporter or morally compromised somehow.....
 
You keep saying "you guys", not every Biden supporter has the same opinions and the same thoughts. Focus on what the individual person you're speaking to said instead of making generalizations.

Anyways no I don't think Trump lies at every word. Most liars don't lie every single time, so I'm not sure why Donald deserves a cookie for that. He's been caught lying quite a few times during his term and that's enough.

Again, if Biden should not be running due to being corrupt, then neither should Trump. Trump is definitely more corrupt than Biden.

And for full transparency, I would have preferred a different Democratic candidate over Biden. Not a big fan of him but I'm a fan of Trump even less so I'll support Biden begrudgingly.
A majority of Dem's would have preferred a different candidate than Joe, you gotta do with what we got, Vote Donnie out of office.

I want to ask you as someone else to get input Does Donald Trump lye when he makes incorrect claims or are they false equivalencies?
 
Again, you want to make this seem like a powerful statement when Ravager did the same thing and you ignored it, so kindly generalize my asshole. I’ve shown you multiple instances of you twisting my words or trying to distance yourself from your own, so just refer back to this very conversation, I’m not doing all your work for you.
And no, i dont condone anyone generalizing, and if you can find me doing it (sadly im not infallible and it sometimes happens) feel free to call me out as well.
And you clearly didnt respond to the actual statement i made to respond to you, so i have to keep on assuming you dont care about what i actually say at all.
i ignored it? You ignored me adressing it, and i even mentioned how you ignored it in a post later.

This is so unhinged its hilarious. Are you even trying to have an actual conversation? at least @bennbeckman seems to be trying to have actual conversations.
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or are they false equivalencies?
and where is this coming from? neither me nor van called them false equivalencies. which wouldnt even make sense since those are logical fallacies
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A majority of Dem's would have preferred a different candidate than Joe, you gotta do with what we got
sad but true
 

Jew D. Boy

I Can Go Lower
i ignored it? You ignored me adressing it, and i even mentioned how you ignored it in a post later.

This is so unhinged its hilarious. Are you even trying to have an actual conversation? at least @bennbeckman seems to be trying to have actual conversations.
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and where is this coming from? neither me nor van called them false equivalencies. which wouldnt even make sense since those are logical fallacies
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sad but true
You “condemn” a statement made by someone who’s on your side just like Donnie condemned the white supremacists who killed and maimed protestors in Charlottesville a few years ago (he called them “very fine people), no wonder you like the guy so much. Also, no, I’m not trying to have a conversation with you because everything I’ve said has been twisted in response and everything you’ve said is nonsense. Doesn’t really augur well for solid discourse, although it sounds like you think you’re the only one making good points 🙄
 
And that excuses you from labeling me a Trump supporter for disagreeing with you how?



By definition they are not. It is a fact that giving false statements intentionally is lying. Trump made false statements....you either assume Trump was intentionally lying or is disregarding textbook definitions based on feeling.



You got aggressive because you took me cap locking one word to bring emphasis to it as me being hostile?



Ok?



So you assume he has NO morals?



Does Trump have NO morals or is lacking them? Its entirely based on perspective and personal preferences. Please dont claim I agree with Trump on any of the things you mentioned......



Its factually a false statement....its only a lie if given intentionally.....you doing this on purpose?

You're making lots of assumptions and is relying on labels on personal preferences as justification......this doesnt in any way make me Trump supporter or morally compromised somehow.....
Im gonna space out my answers to your paragraphs.

He is knowingly misleading people via making the same false claims hence why he is lying. His false statements are intentional whether it's through breitbart, fox, Oann, he sees it and then without doing his own research decides to post them and say them as true

During our previous engagement up to this point, based on your answers I believed you were a Trump Supporter

I was making a point that Joe Biden lies and when he makes false statements or claims he is lying

I believe and assume Trump has 0 morals, he is the lowest of the low. I gave a list of things he's done to stir my belief in that direction

Caps locking words is being hostile. I believe you were acting out of hostility to prove a point about lying by caps locking intentionally, that is why i did that.

Same as the answer on as the scond response.
 
You “condemn” a statement made by someone who’s on your side just like Donnie condemned the white supremacists who killed and maimed protestors in Charlottesville a few years ago (he called them “very fine people), no wonder you like the guy so much. Also, no, I’m not trying to have a conversation with you because everything I’ve said has been twisted in response and everything you’ve said is nonsense. Doesn’t really augur well for solid discourse, although it sounds like you think you’re the only one making good points 🙄
  • whats my side? (spoiler: im still not right-wing)
  • trump didnt call white supremacists "fine people"
  • i dont like trump at all
  • you clearly are not trying to have a conversation, and its you twisting shit left and right buddy
  • i think im the only one making good points? Just further shows me you are not actually reading my posts

If you think i havent been clear on my positions, ask about them isntead of making stupid assumptions? i have elaborated on the "no problem" part even though i thought it was clear enough the first time, so its apparent im willing to clear up any misunderstanding, even if i dont see any reason for the misunderstanding.

What words have i twisted? Feel free to quote them and if i have misrepresented/misunderstood anything, we can talk about it.

And nice generalization at the end again, 10/10.
also quite telling only that last sentence got a response lmfao.

I deleted my statement from before but left the oof.
???
and what is that oof trying to tell me?!
 
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Jew D. Boy

I Can Go Lower
  • whats my side? (spoiler: im still not right-wing)
  • trump didnt call white supremacists "fine people"
  • i dont like trump at all
  • you clearly are not trying to have a conversation, and its you twisting shit left and right buddy
  • i think im the only one making good points? Just further shows me you are not actually reading my posts
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and what is that oof trying to tell me?!
This whole time going back and forth with you, I’ve been feeling like:
 

Uncle Van

Monké Don't Do Taxes
Im gonna space out my answers to your paragraphs.

He is knowingly misleading people via making the same false claims hence why he is lying. His false statements are intentional whether it's through breitbart, fox, Oann, he sees it and then without doing his own research decides to post them and say them as true
You assume that all his claims were lies. I was simply informing you of the textbook definition of a lie.

During our previous engagement up to this point, based on your answers I believed you were a Trump Supporter
There's no reason for you to assume I'm a Trump supporter....like at all....the nicest thing I've said about them was that mainstream and social media are extremely anti-Trump.

I was making a point that Joe Biden lies and when he makes false statements or claims he is lying
But wasnt addressing the problem of you making assumptions and labeling people Trump supporters for giving you facts....

I believe and assume Trump has 0 morals, he is the lowest of the low. I gave a list of things he's done to stir my belief in that direction
Glad that you know that you're assuming. You were using words wrong and I simply gave you textbook definitions, and you went off about morals and excusing Trump nonsense.

Zenos and I told you that telling false statements intentionally is a lie by definition. You claimed all false statements are lies(which again is false by definition given how you assume Trump lies about everythong) and that we were trying to excuse Trump's actions....we were literally focused on the word itself....

Caps locking words is being hostile. I believe you were acting out of hostility to prove a point about lying by caps locking intentionally, that is why i did that.
Cap locking one word to bring emphasis to it isnt being hostile......
 
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