Controversial Islam - scientific wonder or man made?
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That's the point. No matter what is meant in the Quran with "day", even if you call it a measurement of time, according to the Quran, Allah took twice as long for the universe.
Yes, science can. Again, look up the definiton of scientific theory. We are pretty accurate with this. Also, a planet not being habitable doesn't necessarily mean it is less complex. Plus, earth is a very tiny planet as compared to giants like Saturn and Jupiter, let alone the sun or larger constructs. Again, are you aware how vast the universe is? The earth is a grain of dust within our solar system. And our solar system is one of 100 - 300 billion solar systems in our galaxy, which, in turn, is but one of 2 trillion galaxies in the observable universe. No way the earth needs twice as long as the universe.
And again, nothing was debunked. Because when Allah directed himself to the heavens, it was still smoke. He only formed it into seven layers and put sun, moon and stars into it once the earth was already finished. Plus, the statement of Allah separating heaven and earth is erronous in itself, since the earth, as per our current scientific knowledge, formed billions of years after the universe (heaven).
Yes, science can. Again, look up the definiton of scientific theory. We are pretty accurate with this. Also, a planet not being habitable doesn't necessarily mean it is less complex. Plus, earth is a very tiny planet as compared to giants like Saturn and Jupiter, let alone the sun or larger constructs. Again, are you aware how vast the universe is? The earth is a grain of dust within our solar system. And our solar system is one of 100 - 300 billion solar systems in our galaxy, which, in turn, is but one of 2 trillion galaxies in the observable universe. No way the earth needs twice as long as the universe.
And again, nothing was debunked. Because when Allah directed himself to the heavens, it was still smoke. He only formed it into seven layers and put sun, moon and stars into it once the earth was already finished. Plus, the statement of Allah separating heaven and earth is erronous in itself, since the earth, as per our current scientific knowledge, formed billions of years after the universe (heaven).
The word "Youm" can mean Day, Era, Etc. Colloquially it means days whilst Linguistically it means "Periods of time". You cant use it as a measurement at all. A day could be like 1000 years, or the Day of Judgement is like 50,000 years.
So the Universe was created in 6 periods of time.... is the best way to say.
Thus these could mean different for the Earth and the Universe. This is honestly the best way to put it without overstepping....
22:47 "Verily a day in the sight of your Lord is like a thousand years of your reckoning"
- Anyways can now go on to the proofs that Quran does have. Such the Universe expanding, Mountain being like stakes, the Sun not being stationary, iron coming from space
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Anyways I honestly dont care to debate this. Im not even truly knowledgeable in these things to be debating for Islam.
So the Universe was created in 6 periods of time.... is the best way to say.
Thus these could mean different for the Earth and the Universe. This is honestly the best way to put it without overstepping....
22:47 "Verily a day in the sight of your Lord is like a thousand years of your reckoning"
- Anyways can now go on to the proofs that Quran does have. Such the Universe expanding, Mountain being like stakes, the Sun not being stationary, iron coming from space
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Anyways I honestly dont care to debate this. Im not even truly knowledgeable in these things to be debating for Islam.
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since bones dont develop before flesh in human embroys and semen doesnt come from the backbones/ribs and the earth isnt flat and mountains dont prevent earthquakes and the sun doesnt set in a pool of water and also isnt revolving around the earth and not all organisms are in pairs, it is man made, clearly no scientific wonder. Not to mention the authors mathematical error in surah 4 verse 11-12 (or 12-13, not super sure).
there is only the miracle of reinterpretation
there is only the miracle of reinterpretation
Honestly these verse aren't meant to be scientifically accurate, their inner aim is praise Allah as the creator
He's the creator, this is his true greatness, how and in how much time he created it's not the point imo.
The description of how he created is meant to exalt his creative power, regardless if it's accurate or not it has to be something that amaze everyone in its description, something that let you feel His greatness
He's the creator, this is his true greatness, how and in how much time he created it's not the point imo.
The description of how he created is meant to exalt his creative power, regardless if it's accurate or not it has to be something that amaze everyone in its description, something that let you feel His greatness
No, the Quran is anything but scientifically correct and there is a reason a lot are leaving Islam after reading the Quran (and Sunnah). Including Arabs whose native language is Arabic. You can even look up more prominent guys like "the masked arab" who debunk those things in Islam in both English and Arabic.
It's just that Muslims who have grown up with Islam are totally biased and will interpret the Quran accordingly, searching for proof and interpretations that fit their bias.
It's just that Muslims who have grown up with Islam are totally biased and will interpret the Quran accordingly, searching for proof and interpretations that fit their bias.
You have official numbers? I don't think so. I think the estimated number of apostates is much higher, since they have to keep it secret due to death threats. But there are a lot leaving, especially in islamic countries. And a person leaving Islam usually had a more critical look at it than someone converting. In my experience, people convert out of rather shallow reasons, while those leaving have a deep history of growing up within islamic culture and learning about Islam.
Yeah, due to the birth rate of Muslims. No offense.
Of course there are no "official" numbers on apostates. Because Islam - the religion of peace - has the death sentence for those leaving Islam. If you live in an Islamic country and with a conservative Muslim family, leaving Islam openly is a life threatening situation. But there is a vast amount of them leaving, both officially and inofficially.
Islam, as other religions, simply don't have the right answers for our modern, advanced life. Unlike science and technology. Religions are just archaic tales told by ignorant people in the desert. To believe that the almighty creator of the entire universe speaks to a bedouin in the desert and commanding how apes on a dust grain in the solar system have to live their lives. Baby please.
Of course there are no "official" numbers on apostates. Because Islam - the religion of peace - has the death sentence for those leaving Islam. If you live in an Islamic country and with a conservative Muslim family, leaving Islam openly is a life threatening situation. But there is a vast amount of them leaving, both officially and inofficially.
Islam, as other religions, simply don't have the right answers for our modern, advanced life. Unlike science and technology. Religions are just archaic tales told by ignorant people in the desert. To believe that the almighty creator of the entire universe speaks to a bedouin in the desert and commanding how apes on a dust grain in the solar system have to live their lives. Baby please.
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