US Presidental Race : 2020

Who is taking the US Presidential Election ?

  • Donald Trump

    Votes: 47 37.9%
  • Joe Biden

    Votes: 41 33.1%
  • Kanye West

    Votes: 36 29.0%

  • Total voters
    124
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Adam 🍎

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Walking in the streets is praiseworthy?
Stop picking and choosing while also being hypocritical. That narrative is shit.
Yes it is praiseworthy since it was for a very very good cause

Unlike draft dodging
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Obv you dont think Civil Rights Marches arent praiseworthy
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Which is a severe awful thing to think
 
Yes it is praiseworthy since it was for a very very good cause

Unlike draft dodging
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Obv you dont think Civil Rights Marches arent praiseworthy
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Which is a severe awful thing to think
For genuine people who want changes not career politicians who act as if they believe in these things.

The left do not want equal civil rights, they want inequality, they want to shift and blame....
Pure idiocy.
 
I wonder when America will change things up and someone other than the same two big overrated parties to run the nation. 2016 made me realize just how long the wrinkly elephant and dinky donkey had long overstayed their welcome.

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People, there are other parties. Not like the masses will care since they still believe only two matter. The votes me and other members of my party should matter instead of be ignored.
 
I wonder when America will change things up and someone other than the same two big overrated parties to run the nation. 2016 made me realize just how long the wrinkly elephant and dinky donkey had long overstayed their welcome.

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People, there are other parties. Not like the masses will care since they still believe only two matter. The votes me and other members of my party should matter instead of be ignored.
The system is precisely done so that you can have just 2 massive parties, which have everything and its opposite in it, to confront each other for the government.

Usually in democratic countries the votes are splitted according to the % each party takes in each state yet in USA the party which wins in a nation takes all the electors (not even starting on how the president is not elected directly but by these electors) while all the other take nothing. It is obvious that on the national scale only the 2 old parties will be relevant, people will be scared to cast useless votes on smaller parties which will never even win in a single state. The % smaller parties took in all the elections are proof of this (1 to 3% at best).

The only other possible choice is even more difficult, go in their own home and become the candidate yet we all see what happened to Bernie Sanders first in 2016 and then 2020. Trump was not an exception since his ideas are not against what the echelons and lobbies behind both the parties want.
 
The system is precisely done so that you can have just 2 massive parties, which have everything and its opposite in it, to confront each other for the government.

Usually in democratic countries the votes are splitted according to the % each party takes in each state yet in USA the party which wins in a nation takes all the electors (not even starting on how the president is not elected directly but by these electors) while all the other take nothing. It is obvious that on the national scale only the 2 old parties will be relevant, people will be scared to cast useless votes on smaller parties which will never even win in a single state. The % smaller parties took in all the elections are proof of this (1 to 3% at best).

The only other possible choice is even more difficult, go in their own home and become the candidate yet we all see what happened to Bernie Sanders first in 2016 and then 2020. Trump was not an exception since his ideas are not against what the echelons and lobbies behind both the parties want.
Unfortunate, but true.

2016 saw a surge of support for the third parties while this time that support was smaller than before. It’s honestly disappointing to see that support grow only to die later on.
 

Uncle Van

Bullets don't hurt. But Taxes do.
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Lets try to be fair and judge Trump without any crazy hate.

Pros
-strengthening the economy starting from 2019
-made America energy independent
-gave a lot of jobs back to America
-cut taxes across the board
-started no wars and made North Korea and the Middle East stand down.
-dumped a ton of money(tax money) into the education system and struggling communities. -Recently gave the black community 500B thanks to Ice Cube

Cons
-severly increased the national debt(which would have led to tax increases sooner or later)
-severly crippled the working class by increasing their taxes and cutting taxes on the rich to fund his policies, lots of them never recovering.
-used force to make hostile countries stand down
-Isolating America from other counties by making them hate us with his undiplomatic approach
-Divided America because of his rude attitude and unprofessional/arrogant demeanor, which indeed influenced legit racist in the country.
-Horrible performance against COVID as he prioritized maintaining his economy instead of the people, which resulted in his economy going downhill anyways along with extra bodies.
 
Lets try to be fair and judge Trump without any crazy hate.

Pros
-strengthening the economy starting from 2019
-made America energy independent
-gave a lot of jobs back to America
-cut taxes across the board
-started no wars and made North Korea and the Middle East stand down.
-dumped a ton of money(tax money) into the education system and struggling communities. -Recently gave the black community 500B thanks to Ice Cube

Cons
-severly increased the national debt(which would have led to tax increases sooner or later)
-severly crippled the working class by increasing their taxes and cutting taxes on the rich to fund his policies, lots of them never recovering.
-used force to make hostile countries stand down
-Isolating America from other counties by making them hate us with his undiplomatic approach
-Divided America because of his rude attitude and unprofessional/arrogant demeanor, which indeed influenced legit racist in the country.
-Horrible performance against COVID as he prioritized maintaining his economy instead of the people, which resulted in his economy going downhill anyways along with extra bodies.
Van, the racism stems from the left.
Just because he doesn't censor what he says, doesn't mean shit... it's the left's problem with having thin skin.
 

Uncle Van

Bullets don't hurt. But Taxes do.
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Van, the racism stems from the left.
Just because he doesn't censor what he says, doesn't mean shit... it's the left's problem with having thin skin.
The far right are filled with racists too. The "Americans only" brigade who showed how bad they still are with how they treated Asians when Corona was revealed to the public. The far left discriminates against anyone who doesnt agree with them like Ice Cube and 50 cent. Both endorsed Trump in a way and were immediately called traitors who are no longer black, along with the standard racist slurs.

The Republicans are wolves....you know exactly what they're about. Carnivores who will eat you alive. The democratic are foxes....they are sly and deceitful...they will dangle goodies in your face and pretend to be your friend as they eat you alive.

This should be a con tbh. Him leaving Paris Climate deal and focusing on coal energy is beyond bad and not worth it
Ah good point. Another one of Trump's good in the short run but bad in the long run habits.
 

SmokedOut

Life Is Good ✌️
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Lets try to be fair and judge Trump without any crazy hate.

Pros
-strengthening the economy starting from 2019
-made America energy independent
-gave a lot of jobs back to America
-cut taxes across the board
-started no wars and made North Korea and the Middle East stand down.
-dumped a ton of money(tax money) into the education system and struggling communities. -Recently gave the black community 500B thanks to Ice Cube

Cons
-severly increased the national debt(which would have led to tax increases sooner or later)
-severly crippled the working class by increasing their taxes and cutting taxes on the rich to fund his policies, lots of them never recovering.
-used force to make hostile countries stand down
-Isolating America from other counties by making them hate us with his undiplomatic approach
-Divided America because of his rude attitude and unprofessional/arrogant demeanor, which indeed influenced legit racist in the country.
-Horrible performance against COVID as he prioritized maintaining his economy instead of the people, which resulted in his economy going downhill anyways along with extra bodies.
Very objective point of view here, it's refreshing to see. The only this is that Trump never delivered on that 500B. The platinum plan was merely just that, a plan.

Also Cube never endorsed Trump, he went to both sides. Biden's side told him they'll talk after the election, and Trump's side added portions of his contract with black america into their platinum plan. The media took that as an endorsement which was false.
 
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The far right are filled with racists too. The "Americans only" brigade who showed how bad they still are with how they treated Asians when Corona was revealed to the public. The far left discriminates against anyone who doesnt agree with them like Ice Cube and 50 cent. Both endorsed Trump in a way and were immediately called traitors who are no longer black, along with the standard racist slurs.

The Republicans are wolves....you know exactly what they're about. Carnivores who will eat you alive. The democratic are foxes....they are sly and deceitful...they will dangle goodies in your face and pretend to be your friend as they eat you alive.



Ah good point. Another one of Trump's good in the short run but bad in the long run habits.
Your talking about extremists, who nobody really panders to. Speaking as if the minority on one side is the whole.... what bullshit.
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This should be a con tbh. Him leaving Paris Climate deal and focusing on coal energy is beyond bad and not worth it
No, that's not true. It was a good decision since focusing on coal is better than the bad alternatives with which Europe is trying to accomplish something with - and is failing because it is not sustainable. I respected him most over this (him or the government who decided it? I dunno).
 

Adam 🍎

Pretty Boy
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No, that's not true. It was a good decision since focusing on coal is better than the bad alternatives with which Europe is trying to accomplish something with - and is failing because it is not sustainable. I respected him most over this (him or the government who decided it? I dunno).
Europe already produces more energy from renewable sources than coal. Not only is it healthier for all of us it is also cheaper and more accessible. And on top of that we don't pollute the planet. Plus Nuclear Energy will also become popular since it is beyond safe and good
 
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