Spoiler One Piece Chapter 996 Spoilers Discussion

[Fujishiro]

It would be awfully funny if that isn't what Killer said. Just like in chapter 987 summary when this was said

https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/for...poiler-summaries-and-images.6196/#post-595647

but then it turned out it was the greatest army.

Regardless, perpetuated gossip is still just that.

It would be yeah, im holding my breath till the official translations come out tbh. And i mean, how much ''gossip'' do you need till you form an opinion may as I ask? Killer hates Kaido's guts so its not like he's yes man'ing it rn and still callls him the strongest pirate. Oda dances around the bush for this very reason, to keep things unclear and not have a side feel wronged. Mihawk Being WSS(thus not englobing everything), and Kaido having people call him the strongest means that people can still interpret things however they want their headcanon to go.

I know you still have Kaido at n1 right(unless you changed it) and i know you're the type of guy who only goes with conclusive evidence so i respect that, but i think the hints are there.

Off topic rn but Yamato One shot Hacha with a different attack than thunder bagua right, i wonder what it looks like, summary said its like wind slashes, could she have inherited her father's weather manipulation if she is indeed a dragon too?

 

[chacharealsmooth]

In what way ?
They were even granted to have Luffy, Crocodile, Ivankov, Jinbe who all performed outstanding and through Luffy a shichibukai also switched sides basically ( Hancock).

Three Shichibukai, one Rev commander and Luffy himself were never supposed to be there.

And looking back at the War they were doing most shit.

I agree. If they continued, Marines would eventually put RHP’s heads on spikes too. All of their main fighting forces were perfectly fine and to be honest, if Garp decided to get active, they would not be able to take him down without few days of fight.

 

[Fujishiro]

CoO detects the entire stone golem as Pica's real body. He is one with the stone, there is no mini-Pica inside golem Pica. That is why Zoro cuts Pica into smaller chunks, so that he will have less area to inhabit.

Kat could litteraly find out the real luffy before he even came out of the gigantic cake. Sheesh man, just stop. You cant be serious. Oda himself would find the notion than an executive or Doffy who is himself weaker than kata would stall kata for days.

 

[chacharealsmooth]

CoO detects the entire stone golem as Pica's real body. He is one with the stone, there is no mini-Pica inside golem Pica. That is why Zoro cuts Pica into smaller chunks, so that he will have less area to inhabit.

He is not one with the stone. He is not stone man, he is stone assimilation man.

 

[MarineHQ]

I agree. If they continued, Marines would eventually put RHP’s heads on spikes too. All of their main fighting forces were perfectly fine and to be honest, if Garp decided to get active, they would not be able to take him down without few days of fight.

Also Blackbeard never did anything for the Marines. He merely pulled the trigger. If Blackbeard never came, Garp or Sengoku would've killed WB while the Admirals take care of the rest.

I do admit that choosing the place of the battle and devising a strategy is putting the Marines at a great advantage.

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

Sasaki’s triceratops hybrid form is gonna look so cool. Anyone have any fan drawings?

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Isn’t greatest army an even worse translation for Marine fanboys?

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since its coming from kaido himself
not really
there's this thing called bias...
most people in reality think they are better than they are
several examples of this
from the story.

 

[D.Querna]

Sanji and vergo would knock pica's body out of the golem in the time of two soru a joue shot and an onitake

 

[Fujishiro]

But why should that line from Killer make me accept Kaido as the strongest, it's basically the equivalent of Orochi claiming that the entire WG can't topple over Wano.

Also, Killer saying that Kaido is the strongest pirate doesn't change anything to me considering that i already had him as the strongest Yonkou and in my Top 3.

Orochi lives in wano and never leaves it and is a Kaido yes man, Killer lived in the new world for 4 years and so im guessing has an understanding of the power dynamics in there, especially given that he was shown to be extremely smart and collected and was the one organizing the alliance to take down shanks(another yonko whom im guessing he did his research about) and this Killer then, who hates Kaido's guts for what he did to him and his crew AND his captain, still hypes him up and calls the strongest. I hope you see the difference my guy.

What's your top 3 then?
For me its always been
1-Kaido
2-Akainu/BM
3 Mihawk

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since its coming from kaido himself
not really
there's this thing called bias...
most people in reality think they are better than they are
several examples of this
from the story.

Atleast now its coming from a dude that hates his guts lol.

 

[ErionRoronoa]

thats fine
but context is
kaido wasnt introduced back then.

he is stronger than shanks mate

You are saying that because you and most of the One Piece fans follow the hype of the moment.
At this moment Oda is giving us the Kaido hype because he's the main villain of this arc, the focus is on him, and the straw hats need to take him down.
I remember during the Dressrosa arc, people in Oro Jackson were saying that Doflaming is stronger than Mihawk. In Whole cake Island, the fans were saying that Katakuri is admiral level and so on. That's why I'm saying that most of the fans follow the hype of the moment.
Shanks and Blackbeard are stronger than Big Mom and Kaido, especially Black Beard. All Mangakas do that, the more the villain is shown and portrayed, the more stronger he is.

 

[Blother Fertitta]

Sanji and vergo would knock pica's body out of the golem in the time of two soru a joue shot and an onitake

Yea this is massive cap

 

[sidestreetboy]

Kat could litteraly find out the real luffy before he even came out of the gigantic cake. Sheesh man, just stop. You cant be serious. Oda himself would find the notion than an executive or Doffy who is himself weaker than kata would stall kata for days.

Luffy is inside the cake, he is not a cake-assimilation man.

He is not one with the stone. He is not stone man, he is stone assimilation man.

That's.... what assimilation means. To become one with the stone.

No commander till now has shown the DC or AoE to beat Pica, deal with it.

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

Orochi lives in wano and never leaves it and is a Kaido yes man, Killer lived in the new world for 4 years and so im guessing has an understanding of the power dynamics in there, especially given that he was shown to be extremely smart and collected and was the one organizing the alliance to take down shanks(another yonko whom im guessing he did his research about) and this Killer then, who hates Kaido's guts for what he did to him and his crew AND his captain, still hypes him up and calls the strongest. I hope you see the difference my guy.

What's your top 3 then?
For me its always been
1-Kaido
2-Akainu/BM
3 Mihawk

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Atleast now its coming from a dude that hates his guts lol.

exactly
and a smart person at that
killer is very intelligent.

 

[Fujishiro]

Luffy is inside the cake, he is not a cake-assimilation man.


That's.... what assimilation means. To become one with the stone.

No commander till now has shown the DC or AoE to beat Pica, deal with it.

Pica can stall Sengoku for days since he hasnt shown the DC to handle him.

 

[chacharealsmooth]

Also Blackbeard never did anything for the Marines. He merely pulled the trigger. If Blackbeard never came, Garp or Sengoku would've killed WB while the Admirals take care of the rest.

I do admit that choosing the place of the battle and devising a strategy is putting the Marines at a great advantage.

If Sengoku did not agree to peace deal, Shanks, Wb and Ace’s bodies would get Robb Stark treatment. They were planning to desecrate the bodies at the beginning.

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

You are saying that because you and most of the One Piece fans follow the hype of the moment.
At this moment Oda is giving us the Kaido hype because he's the main villain of this arc, the focus is on him, and the straw hats need to take him down.
I remember during the Dressrosa arc, people in Oro Jackson were saying that Doflaming is stronger than Mihawk. In Whole cake Island, the fans were saying that Katakuri is admiral level and so on. That's why I'm saying that most of the fans follow the hype of the moment.
Shanks and Blackbeard are stronger than Big Mom and Kaido, especially Black Beard. All Mangakas do that, the more the villain is shown and portrayed, the more stronger he is.

if the focus of the story shifts
the person if anything that will be portrayed as a stronger pirate will be BB
so I doubt I take an L on this.
am not a kaido fan either
its just in your face to argue otherwise.

 

[Shiroyru]

In what way ?
They were even granted to have Luffy, Crocodile, Ivankov, Jinbe who all performed outstanding and through Luffy a shichibukai also switched sides basically ( Hancock).

Three Shichibukai, one Rev commander and Luffy himself were never supposed to be there.

And looking back at the War they were doing most shit.

WB’s illness not only reduced his stamina and gave him occasional heart attacks, but it nerfed his CoO so much that he went from being able to swat away Ace in his sleep to being stabbed in the front by Squardo (he honestly might not have even had CoO anymore, and even if he did, it’s too bad to be relevant), and it also nerfed his CoC to the point where he couldn’t use it. Luffy simply upgrading his CoO from being decent to having FS was enough to push him from being Cracker level at best to being on Katakuri’s level, so just imagine how much of a nerf WB only losing his CoO entirely would be. His CoA was likely very weakened as well, but it’s hard to tell since Oda made CoA very vague pre-TS. WB’s illness not only nerfed WB, but also resulted in his two best fighters being taken out for the rest of the war, which is a colossal nerf. On top of that, WB didn’t have Ace, Thatch, and Teach with him, and they were also put at a big disadvantage by having to fight on the Marines’ home turf.

Luffy only knocked out a few fodders, Jinbe only knocked out Moriah temporarily, Ivankov did nothing but fight Kuma for 2 seconds and let Luffy ignore his pain, which didn’t amount to anything in the end, and Crocodile only had a brief clash with DD and saved Ace once, but that didn’t matter in the end. They really weren’t that relevant tbh, even though they got a lot of screen time

 

[sidestreetboy]

Pica can stall Sengoku for days since he hasnt shown the DC to handle him.

Sengoku is admiral, admirals scale to other admirals such as Fujitora, Akainu, Aokiji all have shown DC to handle Pica.

 

[KiriNigiri]

If Franky’s really gonna fight Sasaki, it frees up the remaining Numbers. Apoo implied the ones that were taken down might comeback soon, which means the full set would be back.

Maybe Usopp fulfills the lie he stated to Chopper about taking down 10 giants.

 

[Fujishiro]

You are saying that because you and most of the One Piece fans follow the hype of the moment.
At this moment Oda is giving us the Kaido hype because he's the main villain of this arc, the focus is on him, and the straw hats need to take him down.
I remember during the Dressrosa arc, people in Oro Jackson were saying that Doflaming is stronger than Mihawk. In Whole cake Island, the fans were saying that Katakuri is admiral level and so on. That's why I'm saying that most of the fans follow the hype of the moment.
Shanks and Blackbeard are stronger than Big Mom and Kaido, especially Black Beard. All Mangakas do that, the more the villain is shown and portrayed, the more stronger he is.

Shanks is a pirate, Kaido just got called the strongest pirate. Nothing shanks has shown ever gave me any inkling for thinking shanks is stronger, therefore right now Kaido>Shanks.

 

[Tobra]

Orochi lives in wano and never leaves it and is a Kaido yes man, Killer lived in the new world for 4 years and so im guessing has an understanding of the power dynamics in there, especially given that he was shown to be extremely smart and collected and was the one organizing the alliance to take down shanks(another yonko whom im guessing he did his research about) and this Killer then, who hates Kaido's guts for what he did to him and his crew AND his captain, still hypes him up and calls the strongest. I hope you see the difference my guy.

What's your top 3 then?
For me its always been
1-Kaido
2-Akainu/BM
3 Mihawk

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Atleast now its coming from a dude that hates his guts lol.

so where do u put shanks?