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Will there be any doubts whether PK Luffy will be> Kaido in 1v1?

  • Yes.

    Votes: 20 62.5%
  • Kaido is the best 1v1, there will always be.

    Votes: 14 43.8%
  • Kaido is the best in history.

    Votes: 10 31.3%

  • Total voters
    32
K

Kaido D. Stronger

#1
Let's start ...
Zoro's goal is to be the best swordsman in the world, which makes him automatically defeat or overcome Mihawk to achieve his goal.
In the conversation between Mihawk and Luffy, mihawk said that Becoming King of the pirates is much more difficult than being the best swordsman, and that Luffy needs to become stronger than him.


Which makes Mihawk weaker than the people who have already won the title.

Roger and WB (WB did not want). A very difficult journey because he will necessarily have to face people stronger than Mihawk, besides of course, needing a good pack. Herd and power are important for a journey, it was said: If the freest person in the seas were the king of the pirates that person would be SHANKS, AND SHANKS is weaker than KAIDO, individually.


If the sentence were: "If the pirate king were the strongest pirate, he would be KAIDO".
Zoro had to lower himself to the point of begging for his dream to help him get stronger.


1st Zoro knelt for his dream (mihawk) which is weaker than KAIDO.
2nd Mihawk had to measure the difference between him and the strongest man in the world, as he does not consider himself superior or even equal to him in power / strength.

What makes EOS zoro inferior to the old WB who was the strongest man in the world, mihawk wasn't even measuring prime WB lol.

With that we have 3 people above the dream (mihawk) of zoro, Kaido = Big Mom and WB. (I could put SHANKS here ... Shanks via WB as an equal or superior, he was not measuring any difference when he faced him.) Zoro EOS beating admirals after Luffy became PK does not mean that admirals> Yonkous. HAHA. When zoro will be <Yonkous.:milaugh::milaugh:

Now, why does EOS make sense? Kaido will fall before the Mihawk, Mihawk is weaker than Kaido, who Zoro will face to become the BEST.
Shanks will come later and is weaker than KAIDO.

The current BB is weaker than Kaido and will come later, ok he can be much stronger than he is (he can stay), more Shanks and Mihawk are not, they are inferior to KAIDO ... And even if the BB is more stronger than he (being able to stay), nothing suggests that he will be> KAIDO. If kaido falls in a group battle and BB in 1v1 for luffy.

It will be better for Kaido Because in 1v1 you must bet on KAIDO, he introduced this, and will probably fall into a group battle (guaranteeing his invincibility in 1v1), so if that happens KAIDO will be guaranteed by the end of the season as the best 1v1 of all, BB will not there is nothing to guarantee superiority over kaido in 1v1 (when even the author will respect his 1v1). Doubts arose as to whether Luffy PK would be able to beat Kaido in 1v1.

Zoro being weaker than Kaido in Mihawk's defeat will face admirals and win, which changes the fact that admirals who come after Luffy become PK will make no difference to the level of power. Even more so if Luffy has a weaker member (zoro) than KAIDO > Luffy PK.
The monster's invincibility in 1v1 will be ensured until the end of ONE PIECE.

Kaido> Zoro EOS > Mihawk > Admirals.
I can't include Luffy on the list, I'm not sure if it will be a group battle or not.
Anyway if it is, there will always be doubts as to whether Luffy as King of the Pirates is capable of beating the legendary beast in 1v1.

EOS is a bucket that never existed and does not guarantee superiority to anyone.
 
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HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
#2
Let's start ...
Zoro's goal is to be the best swordsman in the world, which makes him automatically defeat or overcome Mihawk to achieve his goal.
In the conversation between Mihawk and Luffy, mihawk said that Becoming King of the pirates is much more difficult than being the best swordsman, and that Luffy needs to become stronger than him.
Which makes Mihawk weaker than the people who have already won the title.
Roger and WB (WB did not want). A very difficult journey because he will necessarily have to face people stronger than Mihawk, besides of course, needing a good pack.
Herd and power are important for a journey, it was said: If the freest person in the seas were the king of the pirates that person would be SHANKS, AND SHANKS is weaker than KAIDO, individually.​


If the sentence were: "If the pirate king were the strongest pirate, he would be KAIDO".​


Zoro had to lower himself to the point of begging for his dream to help him get stronger.

1st Zoro knelt for his dream (mihawk) which is weaker than KAIDO.
2nd Mihawk had to measure the difference between him and the strongest man in the world, as he does not consider himself superior or even equal to him in power / strength.

What makes EOS zoro inferior to the old WB who was the strongest man in the world, mihawk wasn't even measuring prime WB lol.

With that we have 3 people above the dream (mihawk) of zoro, Kaido = Big Mom and WB. (I could put SHANKS here ... Shanks via WB as an equal or superior, he was not measuring any difference when he faced him.) Zoro EOS beating admirals after Luffy became PK does not mean that admirals> Yonkous. HAHA. When zoro will be <Yonkous.:milaugh::milaugh:

Now, why does EOS make sense? Kaido will fall before the Mihawk, Mihawk is weaker than Kaido, who Zoro will face to become the BEST.
Shanks will come later and is weaker than KAIDO.
The current BB is weaker than Kaido and will come later, ok he can be much stronger than he is (he can stay), more Shanks and Mihawk are not, they are inferior to KAIDO ... And even if the BB is more stronger than he (being able to stay), nothing suggests that he will be> KAIDO. If kaido falls in a group battle and BB in 1v1 for luffy. It will be better for Kaido

Because in 1v1 you must bet on KAIDO, he introduced this, and will probably fall into a group battle (guaranteeing his invincibility in 1v1), so if that happens KAIDO will be guaranteed by the end of the season as the best 1v1 of all, BB will not there is nothing to guarantee superiority over kaido in 1v1 (when even the author will respect his 1v1). Doubts arose as to whether LuK PK would be able to beat Kaido in 1v1.
Zoro being weaker than Kaido in Mihawk's defeat will face admirals and win, which changes the fact that admirals who come after Luffy become PK will make no difference to the level of power. Even more so if Luffy has a weaker member (zoro) than KAIDO.
The monster's invincibility in 1v1 will be ensured until the end of ONE PIECE.

Kaido> Mihawk and Zoro EOS> Admirals (it doesn't matter if they will come after PK Luffy.) Don't include Luffy on the list because he is still unsure whether or not to defeat Kaido in 1v1.

EOS is a bucket that never existed and does not guarantee superiority to anyone.
Zoro gonna kill kaido
 
#4
Let's start ...
Zoro's goal is to be the best swordsman in the world, which makes him automatically defeat or overcome Mihawk to achieve his goal.
In the conversation between Mihawk and Luffy, mihawk said that Becoming King of the pirates is much more difficult than being the best swordsman, and that Luffy needs to become stronger than him.
Which makes Mihawk weaker than the people who have already won the title.
Roger and WB (WB did not want). A very difficult journey because he will necessarily have to face people stronger than Mihawk, besides of course, needing a good pack.
Herd and power are important for a journey, it was said: If the freest person in the seas were the king of the pirates that person would be SHANKS, AND SHANKS is weaker than KAIDO, individually.​


If the sentence were: "If the pirate king were the strongest pirate, he would be KAIDO".​


Zoro had to lower himself to the point of begging for his dream to help him get stronger.

1st Zoro knelt for his dream (mihawk) which is weaker than KAIDO.
2nd Mihawk had to measure the difference between him and the strongest man in the world, as he does not consider himself superior or even equal to him in power / strength.

What makes EOS zoro inferior to the old WB who was the strongest man in the world, mihawk wasn't even measuring prime WB lol.

With that we have 3 people above the dream (mihawk) of zoro, Kaido = Big Mom and WB. (I could put SHANKS here ... Shanks via WB as an equal or superior, he was not measuring any difference when he faced him.) Zoro EOS beating admirals after Luffy became PK does not mean that admirals> Yonkous. HAHA. When zoro will be <Yonkous.:milaugh::milaugh:

Now, why does EOS make sense? Kaido will fall before the Mihawk, Mihawk is weaker than Kaido, who Zoro will face to become the BEST.
Shanks will come later and is weaker than KAIDO.
The current BB is weaker than Kaido and will come later, ok he can be much stronger than he is (he can stay), more Shanks and Mihawk are not, they are inferior to KAIDO ... And even if the BB is more stronger than he (being able to stay), nothing suggests that he will be> KAIDO. If kaido falls in a group battle and BB in 1v1 for luffy. It will be better for Kaido

Because in 1v1 you must bet on KAIDO, he introduced this, and will probably fall into a group battle (guaranteeing his invincibility in 1v1), so if that happens KAIDO will be guaranteed by the end of the season as the best 1v1 of all, BB will not there is nothing to guarantee superiority over kaido in 1v1 (when even the author will respect his 1v1). Doubts arose as to whether LuK PK would be able to beat Kaido in 1v1.
Zoro being weaker than Kaido in Mihawk's defeat will face admirals and win, which changes the fact that admirals who come after Luffy become PK will make no difference to the level of power. Even more so if Luffy has a weaker member (zoro) than KAIDO.
The monster's invincibility in 1v1 will be ensured until the end of ONE PIECE.

Kaido> Mihawk and Zoro EOS> Admirals (it doesn't matter if they will come after PK Luffy.) Don't include Luffy on the list because he is still unsure whether or not to defeat Kaido in 1v1.

EOS is a bucket that never existed and does not guarantee superiority to anyone.
there never was , is , or will be a need for plot to make either Mihawk or Zoro above or even equal to Yonko ...

so ... no reason for Oda do such thing. in 1000 chapters he barely gave top tier feats to Mihawk ... he not gonna do much different in rest of the story

Kaido >= Yonko > any other pirates ... is the right thing to say ... always been
 

Mr. Tuna Sandwich

SII - Sakazuki Incinerate Imu
#5
:okay:

1) Crydo isn't PK pleb
2) Shanks isn't PK pleb
3) Shanks weaker than Mihawk
4) Shanka forced Crydo to run back into Wano borders
5) Dr. Killer and Prof. Kidd are bigger frauds than Crydo
6) Old sick WB was stronger than Crydo
7) Old sick WB was weaker than the C3 Admirals

This theard is more sad the Crydo's Oden PTSD:kata:

:holdthisl::queenmeme:
:queenmeme::queenmeme::queenmeme::queenmeme::queenmeme::queenmeme::queenmeme::queenmeme::queenmeme:
:akasalt:
 
K

Kaido D. Stronger

#6
:okay:

1) Crydo isn't PK pleb
2) Shanks isn't PK pleb
3) Shanks weaker than Mihawk
4) Shanka forced Crydo to run back into Wano borders
5) Dr. Killer and Prof. Kidd are bigger frauds than Crydo
6) Old sick WB was stronger than Crydo
7) Old sick WB was weaker than the C3 Admirals

This theard is more sad the Crydo's Oden PTSD:kata:

:holdthisl::queenmeme:
:queenmeme::queenmeme::queenmeme::queenmeme::queenmeme::queenmeme::queenmeme::queenmeme::queenmeme:
:akasalt:
:okay:
 
K

Kaido D. Stronger

#8
You're absolutely right :kata:
Thanks, yonkous fans are always correct.:kata::endthis:
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there never was , is , or will be a need for plot to make either Mihawk or Zoro above or even equal to Yonko ...

so ... no reason for Oda do such thing. in 1000 chapters he barely gave top tier feats to Mihawk ... he not gonna do much different in rest of the story

Kaido >= Yonko > any other pirates ... is the right thing to say ... always been
Really, after that, I started to see him less important to the story.

I fed him and put a huge hyper on Zoro EOS after defeating him, but he is weaker than WB sick and almost dead from MF and weaker than Kaido. Zoro defeating the mihawk, will not make zoro> a WB MF or Kaido.
 

Reborn

Throughout Heaven & Earth,I alone am d Honored One
#9
SMH


Mihawk became warlord Sometimes after Roger execution that is 24 years ago. So basically, he wasn't strictly a pirate like shanks or kaido as he was working for the government.


But kaido was not the strongest pirate until WB died because we have specific reference(like BM) putting him above other yonkous.

So, Kaido became strongest pirate during time skip when Mihawk was still Warlord.


The warlord system abolished just recently.


So judging mihawk based on kaido strongest pirate title is pointless and feeding your headcannon.



Now, we have ample evidences pointing that mihawk is yonkou level - Zoro EoS opponent and final goal to surpass, rivalry with shanks, the WSS title and him being referred as legend.


So, mihawk is easily yonkou level and zoro after beating him would surpass him.
 
K

Kaido D. Stronger

#10
SMH


Mihawk became warlord Sometimes after Roger execution that is 24 years ago. So basically, he wasn't strictly a pirate like shanks or kaido as he was working for the government.


But kaido was not the strongest pirate until WB died because we have specific reference(like BM) putting him above other yonkous.

So, Kaido became strongest pirate during time skip when Mihawk was still Warlord.


The warlord system abolished just recently.


So judging mihawk based on kaido strongest pirate title is pointless and feeding your headcannon.



Now, we have ample evidences pointing that mihawk is yonkou level - Zoro EoS opponent and final goal to surpass, rivalry with shanks, the WSS title and him being referred as legend.


So, mihawk is easily yonkou level and zoro after beating him would surpass him.
Now we have evidence that he as the BEST swordsman in the WORLD is weaker than KAIDO.

That is the reality of things.
 

Reborn

Throughout Heaven & Earth,I alone am d Honored One
#11
Now we have evidence that he as the BEST swordsman in the WORLD is weaker than KAIDO.

That is the reality of things.
There is no evidence.

Mihawk stands at the top of all swordsmen.

Kaido is strongest pirate but mihawk wasn't the pirate per se for last 22-24 years. He became pirate again when his bounty got unfreezed after abolishment of warlord recently - few weeks ago as per one piece timeline.


So, no kaido strongest pirate title doesn't indicate anything about Mihawk strength.


Context matters.
 
K

Kaido D. Stronger

#12
There is no evidence.

Mihawk stands at the top of all swordsmen.

Kaido is strongest pirate but mihawk wasn't the pirate per se for last 22-24 years. He became pirate again when his bounty got unfreezed after abolishment of warlord recently - few weeks ago as per one piece timeline.


So, no kaido strongest pirate title doesn't indicate anything about Mihawk strength.


Context matters.
Isn't Mihawk a pirate TODAY?
What was the navy doing?
Why is there a wanted poster?
Stop blasphemy, that shit is illogical.
As long as Mihawk is a pirate, he will be <Kaido.
I don't even care how long he's a pirate.
Improve your comments or I will not reply.
I don't care how long he is a pirate or not, he at AUGE is considered to be less than kaido.
Current Mihawk <Kaido.
Remembering the past helps you in?
 

Reborn

Throughout Heaven & Earth,I alone am d Honored One
#13
Isn't Mihawk a pirate TODAY?
What was the navy doing?
Why is there a wanted poster?
Stop blasphemy, that shit is illogical.
As long as Mihawk is a pirate, he will be <Kaido.
I don't even care how long he's a pirate.
Improve your comments or I will not reply.
I don't care how long he is a pirate or not, he at AUGE is considered to be less than kaido.
Current Mihawk <Kaido.
Remembering the past helps you in?
Past information builds connection.


Taking things at face value without the context isn't my cup of tea.



If you see the context of everything that has been laid down so far instead of solely fixation yourself on one dialogue to deliberately downplay mihawk then it's you who is being illogical.


And, let's assume that mihawk is weaker than kaido as per your own fixation with one sentence then also gap between mihawk and kaido won't be much as all yonkous are more or else equal.
 
#14
SMH


Mihawk became warlord Sometimes after Roger execution that is 24 years ago. So basically, he wasn't strictly a pirate like shanks or kaido as he was working for the government.
what the fucking shit are you talking about?

ace novel confirmed Mihawk was either last or 2nd last warlord to join the team

and any warlord is a Pirate ... denying that cause it don't fit your agenda is sad
 
#15
There is no evidence.

Mihawk stands at the top of all swordsmen.

Kaido is strongest pirate but mihawk wasn't the pirate per se for last 22-24 years. He became pirate again when his bounty got unfreezed after abolishment of warlord recently - few weeks ago as per one piece timeline.


So, no kaido strongest pirate title doesn't indicate anything about Mihawk strength.


Context matters.
Warlords are by definition pirates who take down other pirates. The hell you mean mihawks not a pirates
 
#16
what the fucking shit are you talking about?

ace novel confirmed Mihawk was either last or 2nd last warlord to join the team

and any warlord is a Pirate ... denying that cause it don't fit your agenda is sad
Warlords aren’t pirates, they’re more like privateers for the government.

secondly if you’re bringing up the ace novel but also ignoring the vivre cards which state Mihawk > Shanks.

There’s so much wrong in the op thread it’s giving me a headache.
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Warlords are by definition pirates who take down other pirates. The hell you mean mihawks not a pirates
They’re more privateers then a pirate.

Why would the government freeze their bounty ?
 
#17
Let's start ...
Zoro's goal is to be the best swordsman in the world, which makes him automatically defeat or overcome Mihawk to achieve his goal.
In the conversation between Mihawk and Luffy, mihawk said that Becoming King of the pirates is much more difficult than being the best swordsman, and that Luffy needs to become stronger than him.
Which makes Mihawk weaker than the people who have already won the title.
Roger and WB (WB did not want). A very difficult journey because he will necessarily have to face people stronger than Mihawk, besides of course, needing a good pack.
Herd and power are important for a journey, it was said: If the freest person in the seas were the king of the pirates that person would be SHANKS, AND SHANKS is weaker than KAIDO, individually.​


If the sentence were: "If the pirate king were the strongest pirate, he would be KAIDO".​


Zoro had to lower himself to the point of begging for his dream to help him get stronger.

1st Zoro knelt for his dream (mihawk) which is weaker than KAIDO.
2nd Mihawk had to measure the difference between him and the strongest man in the world, as he does not consider himself superior or even equal to him in power / strength.

What makes EOS zoro inferior to the old WB who was the strongest man in the world, mihawk wasn't even measuring prime WB lol.

With that we have 3 people above the dream (mihawk) of zoro, Kaido = Big Mom and WB. (I could put SHANKS here ... Shanks via WB as an equal or superior, he was not measuring any difference when he faced him.) Zoro EOS beating admirals after Luffy became PK does not mean that admirals> Yonkous. HAHA. When zoro will be <Yonkous.:milaugh::milaugh:

Now, why does EOS make sense? Kaido will fall before the Mihawk, Mihawk is weaker than Kaido, who Zoro will face to become the BEST.
Shanks will come later and is weaker than KAIDO.
The current BB is weaker than Kaido and will come later, ok he can be much stronger than he is (he can stay), more Shanks and Mihawk are not, they are inferior to KAIDO ... And even if the BB is more stronger than he (being able to stay), nothing suggests that he will be> KAIDO. If kaido falls in a group battle and BB in 1v1 for luffy. It will be better for Kaido

Because in 1v1 you must bet on KAIDO, he introduced this, and will probably fall into a group battle (guaranteeing his invincibility in 1v1), so if that happens KAIDO will be guaranteed by the end of the season as the best 1v1 of all, BB will not there is nothing to guarantee superiority over kaido in 1v1 (when even the author will respect his 1v1). Doubts arose as to whether LuK PK would be able to beat Kaido in 1v1.
Zoro being weaker than Kaido in Mihawk's defeat will face admirals and win, which changes the fact that admirals who come after Luffy become PK will make no difference to the level of power. Even more so if Luffy has a weaker member (zoro) than KAIDO.
The monster's invincibility in 1v1 will be ensured until the end of ONE PIECE.

Kaido> Mihawk and Zoro EOS> Admirals (it doesn't matter if they will come after PK Luffy.) Don't include Luffy on the list because he is still unsure whether or not to defeat Kaido in 1v1.

EOS is a bucket that never existed and does not guarantee superiority to anyone.

Greatest Swordsman "ever". Mihawk is the strongest Swordsman" Not the strongest ever. You got bodied.
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Warlords aren’t pirates, they’re more like privateers for the government.

secondly if you’re bringing up the ace novel but also ignoring the vivre cards which state Mihawk > Shanks.

There’s so much wrong in the op thread it’s giving me a headache.
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They’re more privateers then a pirate.

Why would the government freeze their bounty ?
Warlords are pirates. Stop making up your own story
 
#18
Warlords are pirates. Stop making up your own story
How’re they pirates ?
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How’re they pirates ?
@Sword God Ryuma

here’s the translation from Stephen Paul regarding what Zoro’s says.

<Zoro: Boys this, girls that!! You better not use that as a cop-out when I beat you, someday!!!
It makes me look like an idiot for training my hardest everyday just to beat you!! So don't talk like that!!!
Let's make a promise!!!
Someday, either you or I will be the world's strongest swordsman!!
We'll race to see who can do it first!
<<Kuina: ...you idiot...!!
You're such a weakling.
IT'S A PROMISE.
 
#20
Warlords aren’t pirates, they’re more like privateers for the government.

secondly if you’re bringing up the ace novel but also ignoring the vivre cards which state Mihawk > Shanks.

There’s so much wrong in the op thread it’s giving me a headache.
manga called them pirates over 100 times I guess .... denying that is beyond the realm of bullshit

vivre cards said what we all know that Shanks is not highest sword master in the world but 2nd in that term. vivre cards never told us Mihawk was above Shanks in anything but sword skill ...
 
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