Spoiler One Piece Chapter 997 Spoilers Discussion

[D.Querna]

I'll follow you when you realise zoro named attack is >/= sanji named attack

for now ... we only know for certain that Page One's toughness and skin are> Apoo's.
Sanji RS's nameless attack, black lightning and more. Attack with the name of Zoro, Shottamento di Apoo.
if gives me a lot, Sanji RS with named attack would end up apoo like Zoro did, maybe with an extra hit

 

[Esc]

I think this chapter shows clear superiority of Zoro over both Apoo and Drake. But I believe Oda also had Apoo being busy so his credibility as a supernova isn't totally ruined. Overall Zoro would still win in 1 vs 1 100% of the time but maybe would need to put more efforts to find the right opening. people saying Zoro can't beat Apoo in duel is just trolling though.

 

[Krusher1357]

Facts, dude lived thru the entire period of orochis rule, I think he deserves to see Wano liberated

For sure!

 

[Welkin]

There is no proff of this. People love to misquote this thing

Oda said Brook would come first in a marathon. And Zoro would come fifth BECAUSE HE GOT LOST. That's it. Oda made sure to explain Zoro's position is entirely due to getting lost. Oda has never confirmed Brook would run faster Zoro. Brook is only confirmed faster than EVERYONE ELSE

Explain to me how Zoro can run faster than someone who can run on water? Please explain. No one on the crew has a running feat that can match this.

 

[YourBigMom]

Garbage clean up on this double spread

 

[CbShadow]

Lol, that would be an awesome feat for Apoo then. Despite he didn't even notice Zoro, his reflexes or CoO are top since he could react at it -> in a 1 vs 1 he would react at it.
But it doesnt need to be like that. The tonfa could be in the way simply.


He can send his rival away or he can go away himself to get some distance and do it.

The tonfa was cut in half. That means he did notice Zoro. Unfortunate for Apoo, all he could do was try to block his attack.

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

Objectively speaking.

Cutting Apoo really isn’t that hype.

What do you mean "Objectively"

the poll is asking INDIVIDUAL people what they INDIVIDUALLY find hype.

The poll isnt asking people to ponder the logistics of 'objective hype" with fuckin math equations or whatever

 

[Finalbeta]

Well, no SN can no diff another SN, that would make Zoro too OP, which is why Oda showed Apoo in an impressive light in the past few chapters and earlier in Onigashima.

By no diff you mean a one shot without named attack?

Cause if you also intend it as a one shot with named attack then Zoro is 100% one hitting a few nova even in base I would believe.

But generally the former definition is taken into consideration, then I would 100% concur.

 

[Peroroncino]

Black teeth vs Black leg who wins?

 

[Blother Fertitta]

Garbage clean up on this double spread

Chapter dropped??

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

Explain to me how Zoro can run faster than someone who can run on water? Please explain. No one on the crew has a running feat that can match this.

Brook running on water is explained as He's very light compared to how fast he runs.

That's the only explanation given. Noting about him being some running speed top tier. Becuase guess what, Big mom is faster than Brook in running speed, and she can't run on water. COZ SHES FAT AS FUCK

 

[Welkin]

Zoro was in a quite far distance when he first started to catch him, and then in a short time he closed the distance alongside drake, how is this not enough to say that Zoro was by far faster than Apoo? Not enough? here i give you another feats, Apoo's mission was supposed to stall everyone yet he couldn't escape from Drake, moment later Zoro blitzed Apoo which left Drake in shook, so Zoro speed > Drake speed > Apoo speed

Drake was FIGHTING Apoo. How is Apoo supposed to run from Drake when Drake is constantly clashing with him. All Apoo could do at that point was defend himself. That doesn't make Apoo any faster or slower than Drake.

 

[Seth]

Is it just me or this guy looks like Moria? Lmfao.

Oda really makes them characters pretty similar when they got spooky personalities.

He looks like someone who negged Sanji.

 

[CbShadow]

Explain to me how Zoro can run faster than someone who can run on water? Please explain. No one on the crew has a running feat that can match this.

They same reason Brooks failed to blitz Ryuma or be able to deal with his speed while Zoro could.

 

[PurpleSwordsman]

The tonfa was cut in half. That means he did notice Zoro. Unfortunate for Apoo, all he could do was try to block his attack.

In the panels there is nothing like that drawn, so the most probably thing is what I said, the tonfa was in the way simply. Apoo was cursing Drake and Zoro instantly cut him after that.

And if Apoo really reacted a bit, then that is a good feat for him. That means in a 1 vs 1 he could dodge it or deal with it with his music.

 

[Blother Fertitta]

Black teeth vs Black leg who wins?

My money is on black teeth

 

[Finalbeta]

He looks like someone who negged Sanji.

Of course.

As I was saying Sanji truly is exposed to infinity and beyond when it comes down to women.

 

[Welkin]

Well, no SN can no diff another SN, that would make Zoro too OP, which is why Oda showed Apoo in an impressive light in the past few chapters and earlier in Onigashima.

I agree.

 

[imacub]

Drake was FIGHTING Apoo. How is Apoo supposed to run from Drake when Drake is constantly clashing with him. All Apoo could do at that point was defend himself. That doesn't make Apoo any faster or slower than Drake.

disagree, but you should focus on my first point

 

[Paperchampion23]

Bakkins has to come into play somewhere down the line this arc, not only because of her being a former Rocks member, but also due to her suggesting Weevil to find Marco & Luffy who are at the same place now.

Don't know how Shakky will be involved, we'll probably just see her in an interlude chapter reminiscing her time in the crew while sitting besides Rayleigh or something.

About the others like Captain John, Silver Axe etc..., knowing about Moria's past beef with Kaido and how he has them as general Zombies, I have to wonder if Oda will try tying those two plots thread. Especially with the speculation of Blackbeard coming at the end of this arc and how Moria can potentially be his underling now.

Do you really think Xebec is dead? A man of his stature and whose past exploits have yet to be fleshed out, not to mention how Oda isn't letting us see Kaido & BM even mention him once yet.

I'm not advocating him being alive on a random island waiting for revenge but curious on where Oda's taking his character moving forward.

The thing that bugs me the most is the fates of Kaido & BM this arc. Do you really believe that they'll be defeated this arc before realizing any of their goals pertaining to the ancient weapons?

Oh all of this totally plays into my confusion as to how it all is supposed to pan out.

Its like the whole "New Onigashima" speech. Oda would not have let Kaido make that speech if he wasn't going to show us some iteration or version of that plan coming to fruition. Here we are 12 chapters later with the entire island flying to Wano for that exact reason.

Yes, then you have Bakkin/Weevil, or Rocks himself, or a variety of other characters supposedly tied to the event, but none of the actual presence of any outside of BM/Kaido. Even the ancient weapons, at least 2 of them, are beyond the reaches of Kaido/BM in Wano (Poseidon and Pluton; we technically have no idea who or what Uranus is)

The only thing outside of this arc that may extend or tie the Rock plot past Kaido/BM is possibly Shanks and Blackbeard. With Blackbeard seemingly becoming the living will of Rocks (even his Ship is named after him) and Shanks being as old as the God Valley incident, there is potential that the Rocks storyline only begins with Kaido/BM, but continues until the conclusion of the story.