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Who will fight Who's Who

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#81
Wtf? Sanji low diffed P1...
Page One charged Sanji, Sanji rose his leg to block and blocked it, but Page One overpowered raid suit sanji and sent him flying through half a city. Page One (thinking the fight was over), got hit by a raid suit sanji who used invisibility, then another invisibility attack, and then another. (it was 2-3 hits only landing cuz sanji was spamming invisibility), Invisible raid suit sanji > Hybrid Page One > Raid Suit Sanji without invisibility spam > Regular Sanji >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Middle and weakling trio

Also Page One wasn't even confirmed defeated, just knocked around enough so that they (sanji and the others) could retreat. Luffy hit Page One with a g3 hit and he was up within 15 seconds.
 
#82
Why does he have to surpass his dad? Usopp will probably become a better marksman but be weaker overall. If you're expecting the weakest strawhat to be yonkou commander 2 level eos, then that's a yikes from me. Or maybe his dad just isn't as strong as we think and he's not actually yc2, the only reason we think so is because he's so focused on as a character, but that could just be cuz he's usopp's dad. The only people who we've seen fight are Ben and Lucky Roo, Yasopp could be the weakest in the crew for all we know.

Franky was recently one hit by kaidou in base, also technically speaking, if yamato joins, franky would be 5 or 6. Like why are you saying luffy's 5th or 6th strongest crew mate can beat kaidou's 4th (sasaki), luffy isn't a match for kaidou, jinbei, zoro, and sanji aren't a match for the calamities, etc. They still have like 2-3 arcs. Also Usopp doesn't even have to surpass his dad before luffy becomes pirate king even, maybe he becomes the best sniper/marksman in the world in 20 years when the epilogue happens.
There is nothing implying Yasopp is some physical haki monster. He could just be an insane marksman, which is all usopp needs to do to surpass him.

Like I've said to all you powerscalers, one piece isn't black and white.
 

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#84
Wtf? Sanji low diffed P1...
Technically this is not exactly the truth. We don't know whether or not Page One was even defeated so we don't know how hard it would have been for Sanji to accomplish the job. We can only assume it would have been a low difficulty, but there's no sensible proof.

Even against King, Sanji didn't do enough to believe he can low diff PO.
 
#85
Page 1 has been a literal punching bag since his inception. Hi

There is nothing implying Yasopp is some physical haki monster. He could just be an insane marksman, which is all usopp needs to do to surpass him.

Like I've said to all you powerscalers, one piece isn't black and white.
One Piece is one of the most forward shounen battle manga in the industry.
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Technically this is not exactly the truth. We don't know whether or not Page One was even defeated so we don't know how hard it would have been for Sanji to accomplish the job. We can only assume it would have been a low difficulty, but there's no sensible proof.

Even against King, Sanji didn't do enough to believe he can low diff PO.
Page One was overpowering raid suit sanji without invisibility. Only when saji started to spam invisibility did he land hits, and we don't even know if he dropped page one, page one was down for 15 seconds against g3 luffy before he got up like it didn't happen. Also he arguably will have an awakened zoan. Like raid suit sanji tried to block page one's hybrid zoan form and it resulted in him being ragdolled, not sure how people take that to mean he's weakling or middle trio leveled.
 
#88
Why does he have to surpass his dad? Usopp will probably become a better marksman but be weaker overall. If you're expecting the weakest strawhat to be yonkou commander 2 level eos, then that's a yikes from me. Or maybe his dad just isn't as strong as we think and he's not actually yc2, the only reason we think so is because he's so focused on as a character, but that could just be cuz he's usopp's dad. The only people who we've seen fight are Ben and Lucky Roo, Yasopp could be the weakest in the crew for all we know.

Franky was recently one hit by kaidou in base, also technically speaking, if yamato joins, franky would be 5 or 6. Like why are you saying luffy's 5th or 6th strongest crew mate can beat kaidou's 4th (sasaki), luffy isn't a match for kaidou, jinbei, zoro, and sanji aren't a match for the calamities, etc. They still have like 2-3 arcs. Also Usopp doesn't even have to surpass his dad before luffy becomes pirate king even, maybe he becomes the best sniper/marksman in the world in 20 years when the epilogue happens.
Saying Usopp won't surpass Yasopp is almost as wrong as saying Zoro won't surpass Mihawk.
Also I know I bing read the beginning of the raid and Wano in general so I may have forgot but when was Franky One shotted by Kaido
Also do you think Luffy will surpass Shanks
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Sorry that my facts disagree with your feelings.
You can believe whatever you want but don't insult people. You also called me an idiot and insulted my reading comprehension when I said Apoo isn't a big threat to Zoro powerwise
 
#89
Saying Usopp won't surpass Yasopp is almost as wrong as saying Zoro won't surpass Mihawk.
Also I know I bing read the beginning of the raid and Wano in general so I may have forgot but when was Franky One shotted by Kaido
Also do you think Luffy will surpass Shanks
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You can believe whatever you want but don't insult people. You also called me an idiot and insulted my reading comprehension when I said Apoo isn't a big threat to Zoro powerwise
Luffy*
 
#90
Wait you brainlets really think middle trio can defeat tobi roppo, when raid suit sanji literally had to abuse invisibility to land hits (that page one took), to have the edge over hybrid zoan page one, heck the tobi roppo arguably will have awakened zoan forms even.



"Page One overpowered raid suit sanji to the point that only when he spammed invisibility, could he land hits on page one, so let's make brook fight an even stronger tobi roppo, and franky an even stronger one than that"

Brook will fight someone like sheepshead. (headliner)
Franky will fight someone Holdem (headliner)

The tobi roppo are monster trio leveled, sorry not sorry, and page one is the weakest, followed by ulti.

I personally think zoro is fighting who's who, and then zoro will go on to land one hit on kaidou before being one hit by kaidou, but it being part of the chip damage that ends up taking down kaidou along with the extreme efforts of luffy, kid, law, hawkins, and drake.

Who's Who sounds like he might have the gag of being bad with faces or something, which could pretty clearly parallel zoro's getting lost gimmick. Who's Who and Sasaki seem like the most "in charge" of the tobi roppo, black maria in the middle, and ulti/page one are the future allies of the strawhats at the bottom, and are the most "iconic".

Sorry but someone who overpowers raid suit sanji in their very first clash when it was literally the fight to showcase how bad ass sanji was in the raid suit, isn't being dropped by a middle trio lot. It'd go around as well as when franky tried to fight base lucci.

Marco vs King, also marco will join the fight against kaidou and big mom, and play clutch against big moms bigger creations
Drake vs Queen (in revenge), Drake then joins the kaidou and big mom fight
Law vs Hawkins before Hawkins ultimately switches sides and bolsters the good guy alliance with his devil fruit, both join the big fight
Post (ie non) suulong Inu and Neko vs Jack, they are too tired after the fight and mainly fight off gifters and stuff after

Jinbei vs Sasaki, fishman vs fishman
Zoro vs Who's Who
Killer vs Black Maria
Yamato vs Ulti
(been set up already)
Sanji vs Page One

All the the tobi roppo, Drake, the top commanders, and Kaidou revealing awakened zoans within probably the next 10 chapters to really bolster them up.

Franky vs Holdem
Brook vs Sheepshead
, Brook also dealing with a lot of the misc big mom creations that'll likely be mass produced with all the souls of the dead or whatever in the war by big mom.
Robin vs the leader of the Oniwabanshu, both backed up by some people, Robin probably backed by Raizou, Shinobu, and maybe Usopp or Nami, while the entire Oniwabanshu backing it's leader, so they outnumber the good guy side, but outside of the leader, are a half step weaker individually than the good side, each character having their own gimmick to make the fight interesting, be it spamming smoke balls, having a gimmicky devil fruit, etc. Robin, Usopp, and Nami are all essentially glass canons so it's a perfect encounter for them.

Chopper Monster Point vs Hatcha, the strongest Number.


This isn't the arc where the strawhats defeat the beast pirates, this is the arc where the alliance defeats the beast pirates. The first crew v crew, 1 v 1 matchup arc whree the strawhats defeat a yonkou crew will be at the end of the next arc, when they defeat blackbeard and his crew. Zoro will defeat Shiryuu who probably will have killed Mihawk by then. Luffy will defeat Blackbeard, who will probably have killed Shanks by then. Sanji vs maybe Burgess, etc.

The allies aren't there for just show. Also got to love people trying to have brook fight a guy stronger than a guy who was overpowering raid suit sanji if you didn't include invisibility spam, and who's who and page one probably have awakened zoans too. YIkes.

It's like people who said pre timeskip that chopper would defeat capone, and earlier were saying brook would defeat apoo. You guys just shift from unrealistic unbalanced fight to unrealistic unbalanced fight, never learning.
lol I have a hard time believing this isn’t a troll post
 
#91
One Piece is one of the most forward shounen battle manga in the industry.
Except no its not? You probably mean "simple", but that has nothing to do with your powerscaling ideology.

Luffy beat Arlong because other people saved his life.

He beat Crocodile and Enel circumstantially due to water/blood and his rubber power.

He beat Lucci by randomly gaining 2 massive powerups in the span of an evening where he didn't use it against Lucci the first time.

He beat Oars by using 100 shadows of Moria's power. Then the entire groupe recovered due to "plot" and beat Oars officially.

He beat Hody by receiving help from Fukaboshi.

He defeated Doflamingo with help from Law that damaged Doflamingo internally.

He defeated Katakuri by magically gaining a seemingly infinite amount of stamina for G4 that allowed him to copy Katakuri's FS.

Do I dislike one piece fights because of this? Hell no, but Oda will 100% make fights circumstantial in order to allow Luffy to win. Its been written into the plot that his luck is his greatest power. Thats it.


You can apply this type of writing to many other fights in the series. Every character seemingly pulls a new move or attack when convenient. The only logical character is pretty much Zoro because he trained and just timeskip feats in general since everyone trained.
 
#94
No, no I'm not lmao. Sanji destroyed Page 1, whether or not we saw Page 1 knocked out, it happened. If Sanji fights Queen or King like many people are thinking and the mangaka is implying, then this argument is pointless.

Asinine to think that the extent of these characters is fighting smile headliners after Franky one shot a Number. Not happening. Headiners are fodder outside of the F6. Stop this.

Franky vs. Sasaki is already being set up, denying it wont change that sorry.


Amazing how people can read 1000 chapters of this manga and come to the conclusion that Oda WONT allow his main characters to get monumentally stronger over other pirates.

As I've said a 100 times already, the rest of this arc is going to be hilarious with you power scalers.
If raid suit sanji who gets a durability and stat increase got overpowered by page one, and he had to literally spam invisibility to land hits on him, and after multiple free shots, he arguably didn't even win, then no, Page One isn't going to lose to a middle or weakling trio member.

Also "if sanji fights these strong people and wins, I'll be right" isn't an argument, that's just the whole "just wait and I'll be proven right" trash tier argument people make on reddit when they get shat on logically.

Calamities > Tobi Roppo > Headliners > Numbers > Gifters > Pleasures > Waiters

That number was hit with sanji's strongest attack, and it wasn't even the strongest number (Hatcha so far).

"Franky vs Sasaki is already being set up, denying it won't change that sorry." is coming from the same people who thought nami and usopp would defeat ulti and page one 4 chapters ago before they were instantly put within life and death situation from a single headbutt each.

No, franky isn't going to suddenly defeat someone who is stronger than someone who was hanging with raid suit sanji. That'd be like pre timeskip luffy suddenly defeating mihawk at marineford.

Why is it always "lol you'll be proven wrong eventually" only ever used by the people who don't know anything about power scale. What if you're proven wrong and Franky just defeats some of Sasaki's underlings, is used as a hype tool for Sasaki, and then someone else comes in to save him? You guys are so up your own ass that you can't even perceive a reality where you'll be wrong, it's pathetic tbh.
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I'm not sure if he is a troll but this isn't unique among his posts. He some unique powerscaling opinions like Marco=Akainu l, all YCs > Mihawk, and Zoro=Killer and they are the weakest SNs, and EoS zoro will be YC1
Marco literally clashed equally with akainu and only was hurt when kizaru blindsided him.

Vista objectively stalemated Mihawk, sorry not sorry, that's a fact.

Next you'll pretend zoro cheap shotting apoo means he's stronger than him.
 
#95
If raid suit sanji who gets a durability and stat increase got overpowered by page one, and he had to literally spam invisibility to land hits on him, and after multiple free shots, he arguably didn't even win, then no, Page One isn't going to lose to a middle or weakling trio member.

Also "if sanji fights these strong people and wins, I'll be right" isn't an argument, that's just the whole "just wait and I'll be proven right" trash tier argument people make on reddit when they get shat on logically.

Calamities > Tobi Roppo > Headliners > Numbers > Gifters > Pleasures > Waiters

That number was hit with sanji's strongest attack, and it wasn't even the strongest number (Hatcha so far).

"Franky vs Sasaki is already being set up, denying it won't change that sorry." is coming from the same people who thought nami and usopp would defeat ulti and page one 4 chapters ago before they were instantly put within life and death situation from a single headbutt each.

No, franky isn't going to suddenly defeat someone who is stronger than someone who was hanging with raid suit sanji. That'd be like pre timeskip luffy suddenly defeating mihawk at marineford.

Why is it always "lol you'll be proven wrong eventually" only ever used by the people who don't know anything about power scale. What if you're proven wrong and Franky just defeats some of Sasaki's underlings, is used as a hype tool for Sasaki, and then someone else comes in to save him? You guys are so up your own ass that you can't even perceive a reality where you'll be wrong, it's pathetic tbh.
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Marco literally clashed equally with akainu and only was hurt when kizaru blindsided him.

CkVista objectively stalemated Mihawk, sorry not sorry, that's a fact.

Next you'll pretend zoro cheap shotting apoo means he's stronger than him.
I guess using your logic Big meme=Marco
The copium is stronger with this one. Kidd cheapshotted Apoo and Apoo still got up meaning Zoro's no name attack>>>Punk Gibson
What will you do when Zoro beats a YC and Mihawk shows full power
 
#96
If raid suit sanji who gets a durability and stat increase got overpowered by page one, and he had to literally spam invisibility to land hits on him, and after multiple free shots, he arguably didn't even win, then no, Page One isn't going to lose to a middle or weakling trio member.

Also "if sanji fights these strong people and wins, I'll be right" isn't an argument, that's just the whole "just wait and I'll be proven right" trash tier argument people make on reddit when they get shat on logically.

Calamities > Tobi Roppo > Headliners > Numbers > Gifters > Pleasures > Waiters

That number was hit with sanji's strongest attack, and it wasn't even the strongest number (Hatcha so far).

"Franky vs Sasaki is already being set up, denying it won't change that sorry." is coming from the same people who thought nami and usopp would defeat ulti and page one 4 chapters ago before they were instantly put within life and death situation from a single headbutt each.

No, franky isn't going to suddenly defeat someone who is stronger than someone who was hanging with raid suit sanji. That'd be like pre timeskip luffy suddenly defeating mihawk at marineford.

Why is it always "lol you'll be proven wrong eventually" only ever used by the people who don't know anything about power scale. What if you're proven wrong and Franky just defeats some of Sasaki's underlings, is used as a hype tool for Sasaki, and then someone else comes in to save him? You guys are so up your own ass that you can't even perceive a reality where you'll be wrong, it's pathetic tbh.
Literally refuse to read this headcanon except I found this part hilarious. You guys are almost ALWAYS proven wrong, literally every arc! Oda has destroyed bullshit headcanon logic for years and you all continue to get burned by it.

Ask yourself this. Who is going to come and "save" Franky? Who is left to "save" Franky? The 9 scabbards are done. Kid/Killer are heading to Kaido. Law has the intention of fighting Kaido, so has Drake. And is nowhere near Franky. Marco is helping Zoro/Robin reach the roof.

So again, ask yourself, who is helping Franky? Fodder? Apparently Scopper is gonna show up out of nowhere and help. I see i see.

And don't worry, Usopp and Nami will fight and defeat Ulti, as it has been set up, she's still chasing them. I ask the same question, if not Usopp/Nami, who else is there?
 
#97
The guy is saying that nami, chopper, and usopp would beat sanji within 20 seconds. Also that franky can beat queen, and robin could solo the tobi roppo if black maria wasn't there. And that luffy would be one hit by hajrudin if luffy didn't have his fruit.
If we go with One Piece Logic, Sanji cannot touch nami
But let's say Nami is a DUDE with the same powers and level... Sanji would wipe the floor with them naturally
 
#98
Except no its not? You probably mean "simple", but that has nothing to do with your powerscaling ideology.

Luffy beat Arlong because other people saved his life.

He beat Crocodile and Enel circumstantially due to water/blood and his rubber power.

He beat Lucci by randomly gaining 2 massive powerups in the span of an evening where he didn't use it against Lucci the first time.

He beat Oars by using 100 shadows of Moria's power. Then the entire groupe recovered due to "plot" and beat Oars officially.

He beat Hody by receiving help from Fukaboshi.

He defeated Doflamingo with help from Law that damaged Doflamingo internally.

He defeated Katakuri by magically gaining a seemingly infinite amount of stamina for G4 that allowed him to copy Katakuri's FS.

Do I dislike one piece fights because of this? Hell no, but Oda will 100% make fights circumstantial in order to allow Luffy to win. Its been written into the plot that his luck is his greatest power. Thats it.


You can apply this type of writing to many other fights in the series. Every character seemingly pulls a new move or attack when convenient. The only logical character is pretty much Zoro because he trained and just timeskip feats in general since everyone trained.
One Piece has stayed tremendously close with it's power scale to date, more than any other shounen I watch, heck, even dbz is more loosey goosey with it's powerscale.

Luffy needed help from drowning as a devil fruit user, that's about it.

Oda literally said he made Luffy fight Crocodile too soon and it wasn't realistic that Luffy could defeat him yet, that was a mistake Oda wishes he didn't make. As far as enel, enel was the same tier as luffy, if not a half step under, his devil fruit was just broken asf, it's like the foxy situation but on a larger scale. Luffy meanwhile having all but immunity to what makes enel special allowed his higher physical stats (strength, durability, willpower, etc) to overcome Enel.

Luffy gaining gears all of a sudden was bad writing, but honestly it was needed, while the strawhats doing what you're saying isn't needed this arc, because they have countless allies to fight calamities and stuff.

If someone gives franky 100 shadows to power him up, then sure, he can defeat a tobi roppo.

The literal theme of Hody and Fishman Island as an arc is about the fishman forgiving their hatred and coming together with the other races.

With Doflamingo, Law defeated Doflamingo, but then it was retconned and the damage was made void so that Luffy could defeat the arc villain because Oda couldn't allow another character to take the glory. Gamma knife didn't factor in on luffys win.

Luffy went on and off again in g4 during the cracker fight, also luffy being able to use future sight is because the most singular important characteristic of luffy, his empathy for others. I've made a thread that essentially details that future sight is the ability to understand others so you can predict their actions, while understanding others is literally THE PREMISE of Luffy as a character. Luffys greatest power is his ability to bring others to help him, which would literally line up with the allies helping the strawhats, it's not luck. Luffy doesn't have super luck or something, the one time he had "super luck", it was actually dragon using uranus to strike the platform with a lightning bolt.

I don't doubt that characters get stronger in one piece over time, which is why the strawhats shouldn't already be pirate king/yonkou crew leveled when their captain isn't yonkou leveled yet either. Like eos middle trio can fight off tobi roppo or something, but that's like 6 arcs away.
 
#99
One Piece has stayed tremendously close with it's power scale to date, more than any other shounen I watch, heck, even dbz is more loosey goosey with it's powerscale.

Luffy needed help from drowning as a devil fruit user, that's about it.

Oda literally said he made Luffy fight Crocodile too soon and it wasn't realistic that Luffy could defeat him yet, that was a mistake Oda wishes he didn't make. As far as enel, enel was the same tier as luffy, if not a half step under, his devil fruit was just broken asf, it's like the foxy situation but on a larger scale. Luffy meanwhile having all but immunity to what makes enel special allowed his higher physical stats (strength, durability, willpower, etc) to overcome Enel.

Luffy gaining gears all of a sudden was bad writing, but honestly it was needed, while the strawhats doing what you're saying isn't needed this arc, because they have countless allies to fight calamities and stuff.

If someone gives franky 100 shadows to power him up, then sure, he can defeat a tobi roppo.

The literal theme of Hody and Fishman Island as an arc is about the fishman forgiving their hatred and coming together with the other races.

With Doflamingo, Law defeated Doflamingo, but then it was retconned and the damage was made void so that Luffy could defeat the arc villain because Oda couldn't allow another character to take the glory. Gamma knife didn't factor in on luffys win.

Luffy went on and off again in g4 during the cracker fight, also luffy being able to use future sight is because the most singular important characteristic of luffy, his empathy for others. I've made a thread that essentially details that future sight is the ability to understand others so you can predict their actions, while understanding others is literally THE PREMISE of Luffy as a character. Luffys greatest power is his ability to bring others to help him, which would literally line up with the allies helping the strawhats, it's not luck. Luffy doesn't have super luck or something, the one time he had "super luck", it was actually dragon using uranus to strike the platform with a lightning bolt.

I don't doubt that characters get stronger in one piece over time, which is why the strawhats shouldn't already be pirate king/yonkou crew leveled when their captain isn't yonkou leveled yet either. Like eos middle trio can fight off tobi roppo or something, but that's like 6 arcs away.
Your opinion is wrong.
 
With Doflamingo, Law defeated Doflamingo, but then it was retconned and the damage was made void so that Luffy could defeat the arc villain because Oda couldn't allow another character to take the glory.
You quite literally destroyed everything you argued about the last 3 pages with this comment.

Actually laughing my ass off rn.


And this part proves my point

Luffy gaining gears all of a sudden was bad writing, but honestly it was needed, while the strawhats doing what you're saying isn't needed this arc, because they have countless allies to fight calamities and stuf
You are cherry picking when you want to think shit should happen. Apparently Enies Lobby warranted massive strawhat growth but not against a Yonko.

OKAY
 
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