I don't like Zoro, but i know he is strong
He deserves the credit he deserves. Against Pica he showed how dangerous he can be and i acknowledge it, but i can't accept someone defining him a "casual mountain buster". He actually tried his best to defend who was in the plateau and there is no shame in getting help.
I've not said Pica would have defeated him, it would be just a much harder fight than that for Zoro. He had little to no injury because he was helped, Pica would have been able to go on for hours and that would certain tire Zoro. He would even land some heavier hits probably.
A similar reasoning can be done for many other situations, except for the fainting. Of course Zoro is not weak because he fainted, he just had to meet Hiyori, but it was the same for Sanji. He was hurt like Zoro was hungry/poisoned, so he could be wounded by Vergo to hype him before PH's ending without (according to Oda) any consequence for Sanji as a fighter for the readers. He was wrong and we all know what we Sanji fans had to endure with this Vergo thing. The fainting doesn't change anything i think about Zoro's level, but Zoro fans must pay a bit
And it's the perfect example, with the Yeti Cool Brothers and many others i have mentioned, to show that Zoro is not untouchable for Oda as many might think.
He deserves the credit he deserves. Against Pica he showed how dangerous he can be and i acknowledge it, but i can't accept someone defining him a "casual mountain buster". He actually tried his best to defend who was in the plateau and there is no shame in getting help.
I've not said Pica would have defeated him, it would be just a much harder fight than that for Zoro. He had little to no injury because he was helped, Pica would have been able to go on for hours and that would certain tire Zoro. He would even land some heavier hits probably.
A similar reasoning can be done for many other situations, except for the fainting. Of course Zoro is not weak because he fainted, he just had to meet Hiyori, but it was the same for Sanji. He was hurt like Zoro was hungry/poisoned, so he could be wounded by Vergo to hype him before PH's ending without (according to Oda) any consequence for Sanji as a fighter for the readers. He was wrong and we all know what we Sanji fans had to endure with this Vergo thing. The fainting doesn't change anything i think about Zoro's level, but Zoro fans must pay a bit
And it's the perfect example, with the Yeti Cool Brothers and many others i have mentioned, to show that Zoro is not untouchable for Oda as many might think.
I agree Zoro isnt untouchable. Yeti Cool Brothers. FMI where we couldnt hold his breath long enough, Gyukimaru and Kamzou, showed his naive side. It's not the fainting i care much about because even Zoro stated himself he was naive, it's the "Kamzou is Nerfed" Bullshit that makes no sense and has literally 0 facts in the foothold. People make it seem like oh Killer ate a Smile now he is as weak as a pleasure by default.
He was helped getting there because he had no other way of traveling across the island that fast, he can't fly or jump accross an island, but he was shown to be able to split him up after the first attack. So saying he got help defeating pica vs getting help getting to pica are two different things.
To elaborate on Sanji points, I am frustrated that he is used as the main hype tool for villians, I find it displays that he's weaker than meets the eye, when we know he (IMO) is a calamity level.