Character Discussion Does Zoro's progress make sense?
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The 997 cover was drawn by Oda just to let us Sanji fans prepare for what is about to happen.
It's true that Sanji was distracted by Nami (BM) and was hit by that animal using santoryu (Zoro finally doing something), but he is still meditating, preparing to unleash his inner self.
Something big is about to happen, you are not ready
Meanwhile we have to meditate a bit just like our boy, distracted by this Zoro chapter and vexated relentlessly by animals
It's true that Sanji was distracted by Nami (BM) and was hit by that animal using santoryu (Zoro finally doing something), but he is still meditating, preparing to unleash his inner self.
Something big is about to happen, you are not ready
Meanwhile we have to meditate a bit just like our boy, distracted by this Zoro chapter and vexated relentlessly by animals
The 997 cover was drawn by Oda just to let us Sanji fans prepare for what is about to happen.
It's true that Sanji was distracted by Nami (BM) and was hit by that animal using santoryu (Zoro finally doing something), but he is still meditating, preparing to unleash his inner self.
Something big is about to happen, you are not ready
Meanwhile we have to meditate a bit just like our boy, distracted by this Zoro chapter and vexated relentlessly by animals
It's true that Sanji was distracted by Nami (BM) and was hit by that animal using santoryu (Zoro finally doing something), but he is still meditating, preparing to unleash his inner self.
Something big is about to happen, you are not ready
Meanwhile we have to meditate a bit just like our boy, distracted by this Zoro chapter and vexated relentlessly by animals
You're salty headcanon is just so ridiculous every Zoro Fan just laughs. I dont care about the headcanon nor was I mentioning Sanji at all. Im just referring to all your salty headcanon trying to downgrade all of Zoro's feats.
The Zoro hate in you is strong. We're working on getting additional copium stat
Well, since it would be a group effort, I don't really mind it...
the likes of Kidd don't deserve to be in that spot either by that standard... in fact, only red scabbard + Luffy showed feats to make thm deserving of clashing with Kaido here...
but here we are, scabbards are defeated, and it's Luffy + a bunch of people aiding him... Zoro being there is okay cause I see him more deserving the kidd or Killer or some other supernova joining that fight...
As for Sanji, I honestly don't care if he confronts Kaido... I prefer him having a solo fight against a calamity like King or Queen SOO MUCH BETTER... because it would properly scale Sanji strength for post-timeskip and give him that RANK/STATUS
which he can then surpass later on, but at least we would be able to finally confirm and say "Sanji is on XXX level" for sure...
While the people who will fight against Kaido... since it's a group fight... it will be much harder to scale them and say what level they are on...
I may say that will exclude Luffy because I know for sure what Luffy's level will be:
- Luffy will end up after wano being (generally weaker than Yonko but can tossle with them, HOWEVER, he will have a mode that is ABOVE yonko but is very time limited)... it's always been the case with tough opponents
But as for the rest who will participate in that fight, their damage will be scaled by our headcanon, on how much they affected Kaido.. some people will push their agenda for their character, but generally it will be hard to scale
So, I surely don't mind Zoro's main battle is with group against Kaido... and I prefer Sanji to stay away and face a calamity since Sanji is someone we wanted to scale post-timeskip for a long time
the likes of Kidd don't deserve to be in that spot either by that standard... in fact, only red scabbard + Luffy showed feats to make thm deserving of clashing with Kaido here...
but here we are, scabbards are defeated, and it's Luffy + a bunch of people aiding him... Zoro being there is okay cause I see him more deserving the kidd or Killer or some other supernova joining that fight...
As for Sanji, I honestly don't care if he confronts Kaido... I prefer him having a solo fight against a calamity like King or Queen SOO MUCH BETTER... because it would properly scale Sanji strength for post-timeskip and give him that RANK/STATUS
which he can then surpass later on, but at least we would be able to finally confirm and say "Sanji is on XXX level" for sure...
While the people who will fight against Kaido... since it's a group fight... it will be much harder to scale them and say what level they are on...
I may say that will exclude Luffy because I know for sure what Luffy's level will be:
- Luffy will end up after wano being (generally weaker than Yonko but can tossle with them, HOWEVER, he will have a mode that is ABOVE yonko but is very time limited)... it's always been the case with tough opponents
But as for the rest who will participate in that fight, their damage will be scaled by our headcanon, on how much they affected Kaido.. some people will push their agenda for their character, but generally it will be hard to scale
So, I surely don't mind Zoro's main battle is with group against Kaido... and I prefer Sanji to stay away and face a calamity since Sanji is someone we wanted to scale post-timeskip for a long time
I don't hate Zoro. He is strong, a lot stronger than Apoo, Hawkins and Killer. But so are Cracker or Jack.
He is around their level, or maybe even a bit above, which is still awesome. Luffy needed G4 just to break through the first Cracker's armor. Zoro has no DF, he is amazing
Just not that absurdly strong.
They have probably forgot how Luffy vs Katakuri played out
He is around their level, or maybe even a bit above, which is still awesome. Luffy needed G4 just to break through the first Cracker's armor. Zoro has no DF, he is amazing
Just not that absurdly strong.
They have probably forgot how Luffy vs Katakuri played out
I don't hate Zoro. He is strong, a lot stronger than Apoo, Hawkins and Killer. But so are Cracker or Jack.
He is around their level, or maybe even a bit above, which is still awesome. Luffy needed G4 just to break through the first Cracker's armor. Zoro has no DF, he is amazing
Just not that absurdly strong.
They have probably forgot how Luffy vs Katakuri played out
He is around their level, or maybe even a bit above, which is still awesome. Luffy needed G4 just to break through the first Cracker's armor. Zoro has no DF, he is amazing
Just not that absurdly strong.
They have probably forgot how Luffy vs Katakuri played out
Kamazou, Pica, etc. The proof is in the pudding
I agree with this statement, but for a different reason. Most people get that he needs surpass a YC. That level of growth SHOULD happen first against Queen or King. If Zoro performs a single strike or execution on Kaido AFTER he's been taken down by Luffy, AFTER he fights Queen or King, I dont think thats a problem at all. He didn't defeat Kaido, Luffy did, and that would still be obvious even if Zoro cut Kaido's head. That's even if that happens
That is why Zoro needed Orlumbus' help to defeat Pica, he fainted against a nerfed supernova (the weakest), he had to receive an external PU to hone his CoA or Oda put emphasis in Drake and Zoro teaming up to defeat Apoo and in Zoro attacking Apoo right after Drake broke his guard
I don't like Zoro, but i know he is strong
He deserves the credit he deserves. Against Pica he showed how dangerous he can be and i acknowledge it, but i can't accept someone defining him a "casual mountain buster". He actually tried his best to defend who was in the plateau and there is no shame in getting help.
I've not said Pica would have defeated him, it would be just a much harder fight than that for Zoro. He had little to no injury because he was helped, Pica would have been able to go on for hours and that would certain tire Zoro. He would even land some heavier hits probably.
A similar reasoning can be done for many other situations, except for the fainting. Of course Zoro is not weak because he fainted, he just had to meet Hiyori, but it was the same for Sanji. He was hurt like Zoro was hungry/poisoned, so he could be wounded by Vergo to hype him before PH's ending without (according to Oda) any consequence for Sanji as a fighter for the readers. He was wrong and we all know what we Sanji fans had to endure with this Vergo thing. The fainting doesn't change anything i think about Zoro's level, but Zoro fans must pay a bit
And it's the perfect example, with the Yeti Cool Brothers and many others i have mentioned, to show that Zoro is not untouchable for Oda as many might think.
He deserves the credit he deserves. Against Pica he showed how dangerous he can be and i acknowledge it, but i can't accept someone defining him a "casual mountain buster". He actually tried his best to defend who was in the plateau and there is no shame in getting help.
I've not said Pica would have defeated him, it would be just a much harder fight than that for Zoro. He had little to no injury because he was helped, Pica would have been able to go on for hours and that would certain tire Zoro. He would even land some heavier hits probably.
A similar reasoning can be done for many other situations, except for the fainting. Of course Zoro is not weak because he fainted, he just had to meet Hiyori, but it was the same for Sanji. He was hurt like Zoro was hungry/poisoned, so he could be wounded by Vergo to hype him before PH's ending without (according to Oda) any consequence for Sanji as a fighter for the readers. He was wrong and we all know what we Sanji fans had to endure with this Vergo thing. The fainting doesn't change anything i think about Zoro's level, but Zoro fans must pay a bit
And it's the perfect example, with the Yeti Cool Brothers and many others i have mentioned, to show that Zoro is not untouchable for Oda as many might think.