Character Discussion Vergo and the Punk Hazard arc is based and modelled off of the terminator. Vergo is destined to "come back" greater than ever!

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Finalbeta

Law Nerd
#81
Swear to god, first time I ever googled Oda and interest in terminator before, and loe and behold at what I find hanging in Oda's office!!!


Oda owns a fucking life sized terminator and has it hanging in his office
:steef::steef::steef:

Now I'll go to work sleep deprived from writing this but happy as fuck!
I'm an Automation Engineering student so this is quite the discovery for me since I'm quite into robotics.

After all what would you expect :) Franky is not a coincidental character at all, also Vegapunk. Oda is a huge fan of robotics.
 
#82
tl;dr version for those who don't want to read too much.

He said he'd be back, and true to his word, Arnie did indeed return seven years on from the seminal killer cyborg adventure that proved to be a breakthrough movie for both the actor, and the film's director, James Cameron. When The Terminator first appeared, making the most of its meagre budget, it managed to reinvigorate the science fiction genre, made an icon out of Hollywood's favourite body builder and secured the career of the director who would one day make the most successful movie of all time in Titanic. For the second outing, both Arnie and Cameron knew that everything had to be bigger. And better. Having recently shown that he knew a thing or two about making sequels that outstrip their classic originals with Aliens, Cameron was more than up for the task of outdoing himself. At first, though, the premise behind the sequel seemed like a huge mistake. This time out, Arnie's kickass 'borg was to be the good guy. Surely not! Was this some mistake? Or simply the decision of an actor now too big to risk playing a villain, even if it was the very villain that had turned him into one of the biggest stars in Hollywood? Instead of copping out however, Cameron delivered the stunning T-1000, a molten metal killing machine that, in its use of the emergent morphing technology — developed in part for Cameron's previous effort, The Abyss — radically raised the bar in terms of computer generated special effects in movies. When we left Sarah Connor in 1984, she was a woman reborn, a veritable Madonna, out to protect the Messiah she knew she carried inside. When we join her in T2, she has spent those intervening years haunted by the certain knowledge of mankind's imminent doom, and is now incarcerated in a mental institution; her ten year-old son John, is in care. The intervening years also appeared to have done a fair amount for Linda Hamilton, whose first shot in the movie is a close up of her seriously pumped biceps. The actress spent several weeks before the movie working out and training in gunplay with a former Israeli commando. It paid off. Sarah Connor was effectively transformed into the perfect warrior queen, moving over the course of the movie from buff women-in-prison sensuality to full out Guns And Ammo chic. And Hamilton wasn't the only one whose appearance Cameron was intent on making iconic. He takes an almost fetishistic delight in having a newly arrived naked Schwarzenegger walk into a tough biker bar and fight his way into the best leathers and onto the coolest hog in the place. When the Terminator walks in naked the music playing is all Dwight Yoakam hillbilly; when he walks out, all leather, shotgun and shades, it's Born To Be Bad blaring out on the soundtrack. Cameron takes great delight initially in quashing the audience's expectations, not only keeping Schwarzenegger's actions deliberately ambiguous — is he good guy or bad guy? — but taking an early opportunity to allow the relatively diminutive Robert Patrick to trash him in their first fight. (He even manages to slip in a few sly gags — such as the T-1000 eyeing up a silver headed mannequin in a department store window, and John's significant talents with video games presaging his later abilities as leader of the human rebels of the future.) Metal dominates Cameron's film — from the opening shot of a freeway jam packed with automobiles, to Stan Winston's remarkable prowling Exo-skeletons to the presence of Guns N' Roses on the soundtrack. Indeed, for much of the movie the predominant sound is the screeching of metal on metal as Cameron sets out to redefine that old action movie staple, the car chase. Here articulated lorries take on dirt bikes, helicopters tailgate vans, and everything is explosively levelled by Arnie's increasingly large arsenal. Twins also unexpectedly feature in T2 — the appearance of Don and Dan Stanton (best known for Good Morning Vietnam) allows the T-1000 to take on the appearance of the hospital guard, while Linda's Hamilton's twin sister, Leslie Hamilton Geanen, does the same for Sarah Connor later (Hamilton actually played the T-1000 version of herself in this shot, while her sister played the real Sarah.) Originally Cameron ended on a happy note — Sarah 30 years later, sitting in a park much like the one she imagines being blown away at the beginning of the film — watching her grandchild play, her son John now a Senator. Wisely this was dropped in favour of a more ambiguous shot of a dark lonely road heading into a future now unknown. He said he'd be back, and true to his word, Arnie did indeed return seven years on from the seminal killer cyborg adventure that proved to be a breakthrough movie for both the actor, and the film's director, James Cameron. When The Terminator first appeared, making the most of its meagre budget, it managed to reinvigorate the science fiction genre, made an icon out of Hollywood's favourite body builder and secured the career of the director who would one day make the most successful movie of all time in Titanic. For the second outing, both Arnie and Cameron knew that everything had to be bigger. And better. Having recently shown that he knew a thing or two about making sequels that outstrip their classic originals with Aliens, Cameron was more than up for the task of outdoing himself. At first, though, the premise behind the sequel seemed like a huge mistake. This time out, Arnie's kickass 'borg was to be the good guy. Surely not! Was this some mistake? Or simply the decision of an actor now too big to risk playing a villain, even if it was the very villain that had turned him into one of the biggest stars in Hollywood? Instead of copping out however, Cameron delivered the stunning T-1000, a molten metal killing machine that, in its use of the emergent morphing technology — developed in part for Cameron's previous effort, The Abyss — radically raised the bar in terms of computer generated special effects in movies. When we left Sarah Connor in 1984, she was a woman reborn, a veritable Madonna, out to protect the Messiah she knew she carried inside. When we join her in T2, she has spent those intervening years haunted by the certain knowledge of mankind's imminent doom, and is now incarcerated in a mental institution; her ten year-old son John, is in care. The intervening years also appeared to have done a fair amount for Linda Hamilton, whose first shot in the movie is a close up of her seriously pumped biceps. The actress spent several weeks before the movie working out and training in gunplay with a former Israeli commando. It paid off. Sarah Connor was effectively transformed into the perfect warrior queen, moving over the course of the movie from buff women-in-prison sensuality to full out Guns And Ammo chic And Hamilton wasn't the only one whose appearance Cameron was intent on making iconic. He takes an almost fetishistic delight in having a newly arrived naked Schwarzenegger walk into a tough biker bar and fight his way into the best leathers and onto the coolest hog in the place. When the Terminator walks in naked the music playing is all Dwight Yoakam hillbilly; when he walks out, all leather, shotgun and shades, it's Born To Be Bad blaring out on the soundtrack. Cameron takes great delight initially in quashing the audience's expectations, not only keeping Schwarzenegger's actions deliberately ambiguous — is he good guy or bad guy? — but taking an early opportunity to allow the relatively diminutive Robert Patrick to trash him in their first fight. (He even manages to slip in a few sly gags — such as the T-1000 eyeing up a silver headed mannequin in a department store window, and John's significant talents with video games presaging his later abilities as leader of the human rebels of the future.) Metal dominates Cameron's film — from the opening shot of a freeway jam packed with automobiles, to Stan Winston's remarkable prowling Exo-skeletons to the presence of Guns N' Roses on the soundtrack. Indeed, for much of the movie the predominant sound is the screeching of metal on metal as Cameron sets out to redefine that old action movie staple, the car chase. Here articulated lorries take on dirt bikes, helicopters tailgate vans, and everything is explosively levelled by Arnie's increasingly large arsenal. Twins also unexpectedly feature in T2 — the appearance of Don and Dan Stanton (best known for Good Morning Vietnam) allows the T-1000 to take on the appearance of the hospital guard, while Linda's Hamilton's twin sister, Leslie Hamilton Geanen, does the same for Sarah Connor later (Hamilton actually played the T-1000 version of herself in this shot, while her sister played the real Sarah.) Originally Cameron ended on a happy note — Sarah 30 years later, sitting in a park much like the one she imagines being blown away at the beginning of the film — watching her grandchild play, her son John now a Senator. Wisely this was dropped in favour of a more ambiguous shot of a dark lonely road heading into a future now unknown. He said he'd be back, and true to his word, Arnie did indeed return seven years on from the seminal killer cyborg adventure that proved to be a breakthrough movie for both the actor, and the film's director, James Cameron. When The Terminator first appeared, making the most of its meagre budget, it managed to reinvigorate the science fiction genre, made an icon out of Hollywood's favourite body builder and secured the career of the director who would one day make the most successful movie of all time in Titanic. For the second outing, both Arnie and Cameron knew that everything had to be bigger. And better. Having recently shown that he knew a thing or two about making sequels that outstrip their classic originals with Aliens, Cameron was more than up for the task of outdoing himself. At first, though, the premise behind the sequel seemed like a huge mistake. This time out, Arnie's kickass 'borg was to be the good guy. Surely not! Was this some mistake? Or simply the decision of an actor now too big to risk playing a villain, even if it was the very villain that had turned him into one of the biggest stars in Hollywood? Instead of copping out however, Cameron delivered the stunning T-1000, a molten metal killing machine that, in its use of the emergent morphing technology — developed in part for Cameron's previous effort, The Abyss — radically raised the bar in terms of computer generated special effects in movies. When we left Sarah Connor in 1984, she was a woman reborn, a veritable Madonna, out to protect the Messiah she knew she carried inside. When we join her in T2, she has spent those intervening years haunted by the certain knowledge of mankind's imminent doom, and is now incarcerated in a mental institution; her ten year-old son John, is in care. The intervening years also appeared to have done a fair amount for Linda Hamilton, whose first shot in the movie is a close up of her seriously pumped biceps. The actress spent several weeks before the movie working out and training in gunplay with a former Israeli commando. It paid off. Sarah Connor was effectively transformed into the perfect warrior queen, moving over the course of the movie from buff women-in-prison sensuality to full out Guns And Ammo chic. And Hamilton wasn't the only one whose appearance Cameron was intent on making iconic. He takes an almost fetishistic delight in having a newly arrived naked Schwarzenegger walk into a tough biker bar and fight his way into the best leathers and onto the coolest hog in the place. When the Terminator walks in naked the music playing is all Dwight Yoakam hillbilly; when he walks out, all leather, shotgun and shades, it's Born To Be Bad blaring out on the soundtrack. Cameron takes great delight initially in quashing the audience's expectations, not only keeping Schwarzenegger's actions deliberately ambiguous — is he good guy or bad guy? — but taking an early opportunity to allow the relatively diminutive Robert Patrick to trash him in their first fight. (He even manages to slip in a few sly gags — such as the T-1000 eyeing up a silver headed mannequin in a department store window, and John's significant talents with video games presaging his later abilities as leader of the human rebels of the future.) Metal dominates Cameron's film — from the opening shot of a freeway jam packed with automobiles, to Stan Winston's remarkable prowling Exo-skeletons to the presence of Guns N' Roses on the soundtrack. Indeed, for much of the movie the predominant sound is the screeching of metal on metal as Cameron sets out to redefine that old action movie staple, the car chase. Here articulated lorries take on dirt bikes, helicopters tailgate vans, and everything is explosively levelled by Arnie's increasingly large arsenal. Twins also unexpectedly feature in T2 — the appearance of Don and Dan Stanton (best known for Good Morning Vietnam) allows the T-1000 to take on the appearance of the hospital guard, while Linda's Hamilton's twin sister, Leslie Hamilton Geanen, does the same for Sarah Connor later (Hamilton actually played the T-1000 version of herself in this shot, while her sister played the real Sarah.)
Originally Cameron ended on a happy note — Sarah 30 years later, sitting in a park much like the one she imagines being blown away at the beginning of the film — watching her grandchild play, her son John now a Senator. Wisely this was dropped in favour of a more ambiguous shot of a dark lonely road heading into a future now unknown. He said he'd be back, and true to his word, Arnie did indeed return seven years on from the seminal killer cyborg adventure that proved to be a breakthrough movie for both the actor, and the film's director, James Cameron. When The Terminator first appeared, making the most of its meagre budget, it managed to reinvigorate the science fiction genre, made an icon out of Hollywood's favourite body builder and secured the career of the director who would one day make the most successful movie of all time in Titanic. For the second outing, both Arnie and Cameron knew that everything had to be bigger. And better. Having recently shown that he knew a thing or two about making sequels that outstrip their classic originals with Aliens, Cameron was more than up for the task of outdoing himself. At first, though, the premise behind the sequel seemed like a huge mistake. This time out, Arnie's kickass 'borg was to be the good guy. Surely not! Was this some mistake? Or simply the decision of an actor now too big to risk playing a villain, even if it was the very villain that had turned him into one of the biggest stars in Hollywood? Instead of copping out however, Cameron delivered the stunning T-1000, a molten metal killing machine that, in its use of the emergent morphing technology — developed in part for Cameron's previous effort, The Abyss — radically raised the bar in terms of computer generated special effects in movies. When we left Sarah Connor in 1984, she was a woman reborn, a veritable Madonna, out to protect the Messiah she knew she carried inside. When we join her in T2, she has spent those intervening years haunted by the certain knowledge of mankind's imminent doom, and is now incarcerated in a mental institution; her ten year-old son John, is in care. The intervening years also appeared to have done a fair amount for Linda Hamilton, whose first shot in the movie is a close up of her seriously pumped biceps. The actress spent several weeks before the movie working out and training in gunplay with a former Israeli commando. It paid off. Sarah Connor was effectively transformed into the perfect warrior queen, moving over the course of the movie from buff women-in-prison sensuality to full out Guns And Ammo chic. And Hamilton wasn't the only one whose appearance Cameron was intent on making iconic. He takes an almost fetishistic delight in having a newly arrived naked Schwarzenegger walk into a tough biker bar and fight his way into the best leathers and onto the coolest hog in the place. When the Terminator walks in naked the music playing is all Dwight Yoakam hillbilly; when he walks out, all leather, shotgun and shades, it's Born To Be Bad blaring out on the soundtrack. Cameron takes great delight initially in quashing the audience's expectations, not only keeping Schwarzenegger's actions deliberately ambiguous — is he good guy or bad guy? — but taking an early opportunity to allow the relatively diminutive Robert Patrick to trash him in their first fight. (He even manages to slip in a few sly gags — such as the T-1000 eyeing up a silver headed mannequin in a department store window, and John's significant talents with video games presaging his later abilities as leader of the human rebels of the future.) Metal dominates Cameron's film — from the opening shot of a freeway jam packed with automobiles, to Stan Winston's remarkable prowling Exo-skeletons to the presence of Guns N' Roses on the soundtrack. Indeed, for much of the movie the predominant sound is the screeching of metal on metal as Cameron sets out to redefine that old action movie staple, the car chase. Here articulated lorries take on dirt bikes, helicopters tailgate vans, and everything is explosively levelled by Arnie's increasingly large arsenal. Twins also unexpectedly feature in T2 — the appearance of Don and Dan Stanton (best known for Good Morning Vietnam) allows the T-1000 to take on the appearance of the hospital guard, while Linda's Hamilton's twin sister, Leslie Hamilton Geanen, does the same for Sarah Connor later (Hamilton actually played the T-1000 version of herself in this shot, while her sister played the real Sarah.) Originally Cameron ended on a happy note — Sarah 30 years later, sitting in a park much like the one she imagines being blown away at the beginning of the film — watching her grandchild play, her son John now a Senator. Wisely this was dropped in favour of a more ambiguous shot of a dark lonely road heading into a future now unknown He said he'd be back, and true to his word, Arnie did indeed return seven years on from the seminal killer cyborg adventure that proved to be a breakthrough movie for both the actor, and the film's director, James Cameron. When The Terminator first appeared, making the most of its meagre budget, it managed to reinvigorate the science fiction genre, made an icon out of Hollywood's favourite body builder and secured the career of the director who would one day make the most successful movie of all time in Titanic. For the second outing, both Arnie and Cameron knew that everything had to be bigger. And better. Having recently shown that he knew a thing or two about making sequels that outstrip their classic originals with Aliens, Cameron was more than up for the task of outdoing himself. At first, though, the premise behind the sequel seemed like a huge mistake. This time out, Arnie's kickass 'borg was to be the good guy. Surely not! Was this some mistake? Or simply the decision of an actor now too big to risk playing a villain, even if it was the very villain that had turned him into one of the biggest stars in Hollywood? Instead of copping out however, Cameron delivered the stunning T-1000, a molten metal killing machine that, in its use of the emergent morphing technology — developed in part for Cameron's previous effort, The Abyss — radically raised the bar in terms of computer generated special effects in movies. When we left Sarah Connor in 1984, she was a woman reborn, a veritable Madonna, out to protect the Messiah she knew she carried inside. When we join her in T2, she has spent those intervening years haunted by the certain knowledge of mankind's imminent doom, and is now incarcerated in a mental institution; her ten year-old son John, is in care. The intervening years also appeared to have done a fair amount for Linda Hamilton, whose first shot in the movie is a close up of her seriously pumped biceps. The actress spent several weeks before the movie working out and training in gunplay with a former Israeli commando. It paid off. Sarah Connor was effectively transformed into the perfect warrior queen, moving over the course of the movie from buff women-in-prison sensuality to full out Guns And Ammo chic. And Hamilton wasn't the only one whose appearance Cameron was intent on making iconic. He takes an almost fetishistic delight in having a newly arrived naked Schwarzenegger walk into a tough biker bar and fight his way into the best leathers and onto the coolest hog in the place. When the Terminator walks in naked the music playing is all Dwight Yoakam hillbilly; when he walks out, all leather, shotgun and shades, it's Born To Be Bad blaring out on the soundtrack. Cameron takes great delight initially in quashing the audience's expectations, not only keeping Schwarzenegger's actions deliberately ambiguous — is he good guy or bad guy? — but taking an early opportunity to allow the relatively diminutive Robert Patrick to trash him in their first fight. (He even manages to slip in a few sly gags — such as the T-1000 eyeing up a silver headed mannequin in a department store window, and John's significant talents with video games presaging his later abilities as leader of the human rebels of the future.) Metal dominates Cameron's film — from the opening shot of a freeway jam packed with automobiles, to Stan Winston's remarkable prowling Exo-skeletons to the presence of Guns N' Roses on the soundtrack. Indeed, for much of the movie the predominant sound is the screeching of metal on metal as Cameron sets out to redefine that old action movie staple, the car chase. Here articulated lorries take on dirt bikes, helicopters tailgate vans, and everything is explosively levelled by Arnie's increasingly large arsenal. Twins also unexpectedly feature in T2 — the appearance of Don and Dan Stanton (best known for Good Morning Vietnam) allows the T-1000 to take on the appearance of the hospital guard, while Linda's Hamilton's twin sister, Leslie Hamilton Geanen, does the same for Sarah Connor later (Hamilton actually played the T-1000 version of herself in this shot, while her sister played the real Sarah.) Originally Cameron ended on a happy note — Sarah 30 years later, sitting in a park much like the one she imagines being blown away at the beginning of the film — watching her grandchild play, her son John now a Senator. Wisely this was dropped in favour of a more ambiguous shot of a dark lonely road heading into a future now unknown He said he'd be back, and true to his word, Arnie did indeed return seven years on from the seminal killer cyborg adventure that proved to be a breakthrough movie for both the actor, and the film's director, James Cameron. When The Terminator first appeared, making the most of its meagre budget, it managed to reinvigorate the science fiction genre, made an icon out of Hollywood's favourite body builder and secured the career of the director who would one day make the most successful movie of all time in Titanic. For the second outing, both Arnie and Cameron knew that everything had to be bigger. And better. Having recently shown that he knew a thing or two about making sequels that outstrip their classic originals with Aliens, Cameron was more than up for the task of outdoing himself. He said he'd be back, and true to his word, Arnie did indeed return seven years on from the seminal killer cyborg adventure that proved to be a breakthrough movie for both the actor, and the film's director, James Cameron. When The Terminator first appeared, making the most of its meagre budget, it managed to reinvigorate the science fiction genre, made an icon out of Hollywood's favourite body builder and secured the career of the director who would one day make the most successful movie of all time in Titanic. For the second outing, both Arnie and Cameron knew that everything had to be bigger. And better. Having recently shown that he knew a thing or two about making sequels that outstrip their classic originals with Aliens, Cameron was more than up for the task of outdoing himself. At first, though, the premise behind the sequel seemed like a huge mistake. This time out, Arnie's kickass 'borg was to be the good guy. Surely not! Was this some mistake? Or simply the decision of an actor now too big to risk playing a villain, even if it was the very villain that had turned him into one of the biggest stars in Hollywood? Instead of copping out however, Cameron delivered the stunning T-1000, a molten metal killing machine that, in its use of the emergent morphing technology — developed in part for Cameron's previous effort, The Abyss — radically raised the bar in terms of computer generated special effects in movies. When we left Sarah Connor in 1984, she was a woman reborn, a veritable Madonna, out to protect the Messiah she knew she carried inside. When we join her in T2, she has spent those intervening years haunted by the certain knowledge of mankind's imminent doom, and is now incarcerated in a mental institution; her ten year-old son John, is in care. The intervening years also appeared to have done a fair amount for Linda Hamilton, whose first shot in the movie is a close up of her seriously pumped biceps. The actress spent several weeks before the movie working out and training in gunplay with a former Israeli commando. It paid off. Sarah Connor was effectively transformed into the perfect warrior queen, moving over the course of the movie from buff women-in-prison sensuality to full out Guns And Ammo chic. And Hamilton wasn't the only one whose appearance Cameron was intent on making iconic. He takes an almost fetishistic delight in having a newly arrived naked Schwarzenegger walk into a tough biker bar and fight his way into the best leathers and onto the coolest hog in the place. When the Terminator walks in naked the music playing is all Dwight Yoakam hillbilly; when he walks out, all leather, shotgun and shades, it's Born To Be Bad blaring out on the soundtrack. Cameron takes great delight initially in quashing the audience's expectations, not only keeping Schwarzenegger's actions deliberately ambiguous — is he good guy or bad guy? — but taking an early opportunity to allow the relatively diminutive Robert Patrick to trash him in their first fight. (He even manages to slip in a few sly gags — such as the T-1000 eyeing up a silver headed mannequin in a department store window, and John's significant talents with video games presaging his later abilities as leader of the human rebels of the future.) Metal dominates Cameron's film — from the opening shot of a freeway jam packed with automobiles, to Stan Winston's remarkable prowling Exo-skeletons to the presence of Guns N' Roses on the soundtrack. Indeed, for much of the movie the predominant sound is the screeching of metal on metal as Cameron sets out to redefine that old action movie staple, the car chase. Here articulated lorries take on dirt bikes, helicopters tailgate vans, and everything is explosively levelled by Arnie's increasingly large arsenal. Twins also unexpectedly feature in T2 — the appearance of Don and Dan Stanton (best known for Good Morning Vietnam) allows the T-1000 to take on the appearance of the hospital guard, while Linda's Hamilton's twin sister, Leslie Hamilton Geanen, does the same for Sarah Connor later (Hamilton actually played the T-1000 version of herself in this shot, while her sister played the real Sarah.) Originally Cameron ended on a happy note — Sarah 30 years later, sitting in a park much like the one she imagines being blown away at the beginning of the film — watching her grandchild play, her son John now a Senator. Wisely this was dropped in favour of a more ambiguous shot of a dark lonely road heading into a future now unknown.
He said he'd be back, and true to his word, Arnie did indeed return seven years on from the seminal killer cyborg adventure that proved to be a breakthrough movie for both the actor, and the film's director, James Cameron. When The Terminator first appeared, making the most of its meagre budget, it managed to reinvigorate the science fiction genre, made an icon out of Hollywood's favourite body builder and secured the career of the director who would one day make the most successful movie of all time in Titanic. For the second outing, both Arnie and Cameron knew that everything had to be bigger. And better. Having recently shown that he knew a thing or two about making sequels that outstrip their classic originals with Aliens, Cameron was more than up for the task of outdoing himself. At first, though, the premise behind the sequel seemed like a huge mistake. This time out, Arnie's kickass 'borg was to be the good guy. Surely not! Was this some mistake? Or simply the decision of an actor now too big to risk playing a villain, even if it was the very villain that had turned him into one of the biggest stars in Hollywood? Instead of copping out however, Cameron delivered the stunning T-1000, a molten metal killing machine that, in its use of the emergent morphing technology — developed in part for Cameron's previous effort, The Abyss — radically raised the bar in terms of computer generated special effects in movies. When we left Sarah Connor in 1984, she was a woman reborn, a veritable Madonna, out to protect the Messiah she knew she carried inside. When we join her in T2, she has spent those intervening years haunted by the certain knowledge of mankind's imminent doom, and is now incarcerated in a mental institution; her ten year
thats the tldr?!
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vergod is fucking dead though, get over it
 
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critical mindset

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@critical mindset

You already got my respect way back then but it keep increasing even more now, props to you for taking your time to spread VerGod's greatness :cheers:

VergoManiac must be so proud right now:perocry:

Right Leg Gang For The Win:kata:
Man I can't imagine what it would've been like if VergoManiac was around. I have fucking never even communicated with the guy. Shame o mighty! catded

Man would he have enjoyed the last 3 weeks or whatever lmao. He used to be such a great memer!

Next time the anime makes a remake of Punk Hazard they will make it right and have him properly do a quick ass right leg clash :kizabat:
 

Jaguark101

"Dreams are Messages from the Deep"
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#92
For anyone that knows me, I always save the best for last, and this is it folks. The big reveal that I will unearth to you now is one that will irrevocably change the landscape of the One Piece world and powerscaling. The characters you either all thought (or so badly wanted) to be dead or unimportant in the grand scheme of things, I can't say just how dead wrong you are. It appears for all this time people have missed the, in my mind, quite glaringly obvious terminator parrallels Vergo has going for him, and though that may be because I'm a huge fan of the franschise, it nevertheless surprises me just a little actually that this was never once truly touched on or investigated as a possibility. Nevertheless there's absolutely no mistaken it, Oda has created Vergo with very specific intentions and I will show you just how much he wanted us to be able to tease out these connections and let us know what Vergo is all about. As such, let me break it down for you why Goda made Punk Hazard into Vergo's arc and why Vergo was the Terminator missioned to bring down the punks in Punk Hazard.

This is going to be a long one, but we have Monet working the bar and has prepared some chow and drinks for this long occassion. It so happens this 4th of december marks the International Cookie Day, and I happened to impound a lot of different sorts of snack and treats from some bloke with a weird looking firecracker buns on his head leading a BM shipment. Weird dude who hid behind cookie soldiers that I took care of easily then sent him on his way, because it was like the difference between day and night: he hates pain while I fucking embrace it! Now I have massive cookies to share as a result. Also, good thing we have Monet in case my false memory bouts start kicking in, as she will be able to help keep our discussion on track. So with that said, let's get down to brass tacks, beyond the false veneer, to see what truly lies beneath the surface of this "mystery man".

(1) The heart

In Vergo's introduction we see Vergo with Law's heart, and him toying with the heart was a big point and theme in Punk Hazard. I can't help but draw connections to this epic introductory scene in Terminator 1 where he schools and rips out the heart of some punk. This is his first action scene in the whole franchise, and a very iconic one.

(2) Metal constitution

Vergo is "like a mass of iron or something", ie he has a metal endoskeleton, same as the terminators.
It is very obvious Sanji is not referring to any technique here, such as tekkai kempo, which is what Jyabura used to be able to use tekkai while moving. Sanji is intimately familiar with this technique, so we should be able to rule out this possibility because Sanji is not sure what the deal is with Vergo's body. Oda chose to have Vergo have food stuck to his chin as one of his gags, which, as funny as that is, it also goes to underscore his connection with metals (like how food gets stuck to metal pans). So there's definitely something going on with his actual body.

(2.1) False Memory
Also, Vergo (if you remember) suffers from false memory, which - in addition to to the many funny scenarios you could play out with this - is also an interesting trait that in real life could be caused by lead and/or other heavy metal poisoning; though I'm not saying Vergo suffers fromheavy metal poisoning, it just might be a small little hint that Oda is giving us here with regards to his connection to metals, yet again.

(3) The terminator's CPU and Germa DNA

If you recall from Terminator 2, the reason Cyberdyne corporations could develop their robotics technology was because they had gotten their hands on the CPU and robotic arm of the original model-101 that got crushed under the hydraulic press in Terminator 1. The whole Cyberdyne network system was in fact developed from the hardware and software of the original T-101 terminator. They needed the CPU of Arnold from terminator 1 to be able to develop the robotics that would later turn into the defense network Skynet that would eventually gain self-awareness, wage war on the human race, etc (then we get into some complicated shit about alernative realities and all that stuff lol).

The obvious connection here with Vergo is that Oda makes no secret that Vergo is the guy on which the whole Germa is based on; the blueprints for his DNA laid the foundation for their North Blue takeover. We know this because though there are many different kinds of Germa soldiers, the only two highlighted ones, the one in the cryogenic chamver and the other that sacrificed himself by the orders of Judge, those two are literally the spitting image of Vergo. Of course the original DNA template >>> the products; the original being the one that escaped and got into the hands of Trebol.

Summary: CPU of terminator = development of Skynet. DNA of Vergo = development of Germa. :endthis:

(4) The perfect infiltrator

The terminators, if you remember, were created by Skynet, to look like and mimick human behaviour so as to infiltrate the resistance movement. The terminators shifted the war, it gave the machines the ability to gain an advantage over humankid, and many of the terminators were in fact so good you probably wouldn't have recognised them as traitors before it was too late. The whole point of the terminators were to be flawless infiltrators.

It's this programming that is the key, to where the best terminator can literally act the part and appear truly sincere and genuinely on your side for years and decades, only to at the drop of a hat just whack you just like that. It uncannily reminds me of the way Vergo pursued his mission to a T (as it were) becoming the literal father figure for his subordinates, but nevertheless staying forever true to his original mission, without flincing or hesitating wiping out the entire G-5 unit that he had shepherded for almost 15 years. Vergo was someone that was overly emphasised by the G-5 soldiers that they would never ever believe Vergo being capable of such a thing. They stubbornly held onto the belief that the Vergo they saw was a fake Vergo. :cheers:

Vergo I think more than anyone embodies this Terminator-like mindset of staying so unyieldingly loyal to what he was set out to do, which is both frightening and admirable at the same time. Vergo remained so fiercely loyal to Doflamingo at all times that it also makes his death scene ever the more impactful, having his efforts be recognised by the "programmer", as it were, in the end which actually made him smile for the first time. Vergo would have never strayed from the path he was set out for, just like a true Terminator.

(5) The human experiments

This is actually a very minor point such that it can even be disregarded altogether because in my mind the human experiment part was not even a big highlight in the movie. From Terminator 4 we saw how the machines were rounding up humans for orderly disposal, and we learn from Kyle Reese how humankind almost were at the brink of extinction at one point. Yet we also learn some were experimented upon to make them into cybernetic organisms, Marcus Wright being one of them who after Skynet took over, they continued with the research on him and performed exhaustive experiments on him. They did do some experiments on human, yet this is not a big highlight, so I'll just mention it but not make a big point about it. The connection of couse being Vergo was the one responsible for the kidnapping of children that were used for weaponisation experiments (making them bigger and stronger).

(6) The barren wasteland caused by weapons of mass destruction

Before Punk Hazard was engulfed in a gas explosion that made it into a dead and barren landscape it was lush and full of life. Punk Hazard was even further devestated and in fact permanently altered by the scale of the conflict that ensued between the two admirals.

When Judgment Day hit, there was a nuclear war set off by the machines to wipe out the humans. The result was utterly devestating with 3 billions lives lost (at that time more than half of the world population) and major swathes of earth utterly devestated by the sheer scale of this conflict. The war with the machines further devestated the planet.

6) The shootout at the police house

You remember the scene from Terminator 1 where T-101 goes on a full rampage at the police station with Sarah Connor hiding under a table sobbing, waiting for her imminent demise? That is not so much different from this scene where Vergo is in the process of wiping out the remainder of the G-5 unit with shigan, where you have Tashigi sobbing on the floor unable to move or speak. Both are frozen to the bone in the face of this unyielding indestructible force. Vergo just like the T-101 just kills everyone with no emotion. Vergo really looks like a robot aimed only to kill his targets. No expressions, no nothing. The police can't do nothing against the terminator, same as the entire G-5 can try their best to go up against Vergo but to no avail. Nothing can quell this man's ferocity! Not even cuck Sanji with shin break :suresure:(getting to that)
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This thread has proved Vergo's incomparable strength. Nobody stood a chance except Law. Only Law with his strength, skills, tactics, intelligence, haki, petty revenge, cleverness, and resourceful use of his hax fruit was he able to take down Vergo, SAD, and begin the attack on the underworld in one fell swoop. Once Vergo was disposed of Doflamingo was no problem, he barely survived Gamma Knife but Vergo was a different monster. Law should personally say thank you to Vergo for making his goal possible. Without Vergo, Law would be nothing. But because of Vergo, Law has overcome. :cheers:

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#95
Greatest thread I’ve ever seen. Another W for the right leg masterrace.

Thanks, bro or sis! Buut, it was never even a win because there was never a contest to begin with :cheers:
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There's only one that counts and that's the one that's right :pepelit:

This thread has proved Vergo's incomparable strength. Nobody stood a chance except Law. Only Law with his strength, skills, tactics, intelligence, haki, petty revenge, cleverness, and resourceful use of his hax fruit was he able to take down Vergo, SAD, and begin the attack on the underworld in one fell swoop. Once Vergo was disposed of Doflamingo was no problem, he barely survived Gamma Knife but Vergo was a different monster. Law should personally say thank you to Vergo for making his goal possible. Without Vergo, Law would be nothing. But because of Vergo, Law has overcome. :cheers:


Oi oi, can't lie but there's truth behind your words, Salt. He was lucky Vergo didn't know better and jumped him like the brute animal he is. If Vergo would've been more savvy no tricks would've worked, while DD easily gets jumped and tricked by shambles, Law getting all sorts of drops on him and whatnot, Law used a bunch of tricks on DD consistently. DD is a hella powerful man, but he ain't no Vergo, what can I say :jordanmf:
 
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#98
It's time Vergo and Kaido-San meet man. That would be one hell of a sick moment! Imagine Kaido-sans island level power and Vergo-sans island clearing mogg :noo::noo::noo::steef::steef::steef:
With all due respect to Kaido, i must question his decision to allow someone like King to operate as his right hand man. The same guy whose full power beak attack got borderline brushed off by Judge's son. Meanwhile a casual Vergo switches legs on him.

I guess it's due to the fact Vergo was mainly working undercover that Kaido isn't aware of his strength, i'm sure he'd make him an All Star without a doubt.
 
#99
Vergo is wasted potential, he had a good design, a good fighting style, a funny personality
As a character he is leagues better than most Veterans/Headliners/Tobiropos

But he's not coming back.
He's fucking dead and his captain is in jail.
 
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