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Drake wasn't holding Apoo down. Apoo was blocking Drake attacks with one hand and his other hand that was spinning the tonfa behind his back.


Apoo being occupied with Drake is still no excuse why he couldn't see Zoro's attack coming. We've seen plenty of people be occupied and still see an attack coming.

When Zoro was busy fighting Killer the fox tried to hit him with a sneak attack from his rear and Zoro evaded it. While he was evading that attack Killer use the opportunity to attack Zoro. Even though Zoro couldn't evade that one he still saw that attack coming.


While Kuma was focus on Luffy and getting ready to pick him up Zoro attacked with a frontal attack. Even though Kuma couldn't evade it he at least saw the attack coming.



From the scenes provided you can see that just because someone is distracted or busy that doesn't mean they can't see an attack coming. The fact Apoo never saw the attack coming proves Zoro's movement was just too fast for him.

I've already proved that Apoo was healed in a previous post. Here it is.


I know that Marco's healing flames don't fully heal a person. But injuries doesn't stop these characters from fighting on. Zoro had a hole that went from his chest to his back and that didn't stop him from blitzing and oneshot Killer.

That's just one of many examples.

Apoo was shaking when he first got up. That proves he was still injured by Zoro's attack and in a weaken state.


You don't fully understand Zoro's attack against Apoo so I'm going to explain it to you.

Zoro used ability to cut nothing against Apoo. Which is power that allows swordsman to only cut what they want to cut.

To take out Apoo, Zoro needed to cut through Apoo's tonfa or defense and he needs to cut Apoo. That's what he did. Zoro also needed to retrieve the antidote from Apoo so while he was cutting Apoo but before he reached the antidote Zoro switched over to not cut so he wouldn't cut the antidote. Instead, he knocked the antidote out of Apoo's clothes. That explains how the antidote went flying through the air while Apoo was still falling and Drake was finishing his attack that was going downwards.

The only downside about that was Zoro's attack wasn't as strong as it could have been because he didn't want to cut the antidote so he had to stop is cutting attack short.



What makes that scene even more impressive is the fact he switched over from cutting to not cutting in one fast single attack. That shows just how much skill and precision Zoro possess.
You literally just posted a bunch of things proving my point.

Apoo is having it behind his back because he's between clashes and he is alternating between them because he needs to get momentum to block Drake's attacks.

Also what even is your argument? Because it's possible to see an attack coming while you're too busy to avoid it, it's physically impossible to be hit without knowing an attack is coming, and even if 20 guys are piling on top of you, if a 5 year old kicks you in the nose, that 5 year old is stronger than you?

That's some extreme brainlet logic there.

Apoo showed no sign of even paying attention to Zoro, he was literally yelling Drake's name as he resisted his attacks.

Also why are you even using the Killer fight? Onimaru is like weakling trio leveled and Zoro was then instantly gored by Killer afterwards, that literally only makes your argument worse.

So if PG holds you down and then I suddenly appear and kick you in the balls without you knowing I'm there, does that mean I'm too fast for you to perceive? That's literally the argument you're making. Zoro wasn't moving so fast that he was unseeable by Apoo, Zoro literally just cheap shotted Apoo while Drake was comboing him already, it's literally as simple as that. It doesn't make zoro look bad or good, because it's a war and cheap shots are accepted, but like, holy fuck are you tryign to pretend zoro cheap shotting someone is impressive, LOL.

Okay, then if Marco's healing effects didn't heal Apoo, even if the flames got on him (more than likely not, Marco is not an idiot to heal Apoo when he's literally been here for the fight to see apoo is an enemy), so Apoo got up after Zoro's attack, which ist he point, so yeah, take the L.

I like that you're willing to ignore literal reality to suck off Zoro, the drawing is probably realy happy that you simp for him.

SOrry, but just accept that Zoro cheap shotted Apoo and Apoo got up on his own. Apoo was entirely focused on Drake and had no capabilities of defending cuz he had his hands full being pushed back by drake's combo, and he wasn't focused on zoro at all, then zoro cut him, then apoo got up and drake grabbed him with his full zoan form and bit down on him.

Zoro cut OVER (edited from off lol) Apoo's arms and cut into his chest while he was distracted. The cut was zoro's while the tonfa break was either a mix of the two or was drake given the angle, maybe the cheap shot zoro hit him with threw him off, thus the tonfa didn't have buso on them, that's when drake broke them with the attack he already was following through on himself.

Apoo was cut, why wouldn't he be in a weakened state, he's also been hit by other attacks before this too. Swords in one piece are lethal, zoro pretty much one hits all his enemies, no matter if they're weaker than him or on his level, because that's the attribute of lethality to a blade, the only exception to this rule are people like kaidou or big mom, but yonkous gonna yonkou.

Like, zoro cheap shotting apoo is a fact, it doesn't even make zoro look bad, but it makes zoro fanboys look bad how you're trying to use zoro cheap shotting the fuck out of apoo as evidence, zoro literally lost to the yeti cool brothers (two weakling trio ass mother fuckers) with even more awareness of their blindsides. That doesn't mean Yeti Cool Brothers >>>>>>>>>>>> Zoro, and heck, Zoro didn't get up after that 2 pages later.

It's outrageous to pretend zoro cheap shotting apoo with a sword is particularly impressive, when drake was literally pinning him down. Just stop, it's a god damn manga, no need to make shit up and lie for a fictional characters ego.
 
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Yeah, she definitely looks like a SMILE Fruit user and not a Devil Fruit user. Is it possible that she's an Ancient Smile Fruit user? They just described it like an Ancient Devil Fruit because it was easier to call it that instead of an Ancient Smile Fruit user? I don't know...

She has two heads :/

That's not a hybrid transformation, it's not a partial transformation, it's not a full transformation. What the hell kind of transformation allows for two heads except SMILE Fruit transformations....
 
You literally just posted a bunch of things proving my point.

Apoo is having it behind his back because he's between clashes and he is alternating between them because he needs to get momentum to block Drake's attacks.

Also what even is your argument? Because it's possible to see an attack coming while you're too busy to avoid it, it's physically impossible to be hit without knowing an attack is coming, and even if 20 guys are piling on top of you, if a 5 year old kicks you in the nose, that 5 year old is stronger than you?

That's some extreme brainlet logic there.

Apoo showed no sign of even paying attention to Zoro, he was literally yelling Drake's name as he resisted his attacks.

Also why are you even using the Killer fight? Onimaru is like weakling trio leveled and Zoro was then instantly gored by Killer afterwards, that literally only makes your argument worse.

So if PG holds you down and then I suddenly appear and kick you in the balls without you knowing I'm there, does that mean I'm too fast for you to perceive? That's literally the argument you're making. Zoro wasn't moving so fast that he was unseeable by Apoo, Zoro literally just cheap shotted Apoo while Drake was comboing him already, it's literally as simple as that. It doesn't make zoro look bad or good, because it's a war and cheap shots are accepted, but like, holy fuck are you tryign to pretend zoro cheap shotting someone is impressive, LOL.

Okay, then if Marco's healing effects didn't heal Apoo, even if the flames got on him (more than likely not, Marco is not an idiot to heal Apoo when he's literally been here for the fight to see apoo is an enemy), so Apoo got up after Zoro's attack, which ist he point, so yeah, take the L.

I like that you're willing to ignore literal reality to suck off Zoro, the drawing is probably realy happy that you simp for him.

SOrry, but just accept that Zoro cheap shotted Apoo and Apoo got up on his own. Apoo was entirely focused on Drake and had no capabilities of defending cuz he had his hands full being pushed back by drake's combo, and he wasn't focused on zoro at all, then zoro cut him, then apoo got up and drake grabbed him with his full zoan form and bit down on him.

Zoro cut off Apoo's arms and cut into his chest while he was distracted. The cut was zoro's while the tonfa break was either a mix of the two or was drake given the angle, maybe the cheap shot zoro hit him with threw him off, thus the tonfa didn't have buso on them, that's when drake broke them with the attack he already was following through on himself.

Apoo was cut, why wouldn't he be in a weakened state, he's also been hit by other attacks before this too. Swords in one piece are lethal, zoro pretty much one hits all his enemies, no matter if they're weaker than him or on his level, because that's the attribute of lethality to a blade, the only exception to this rule are people like kaidou or big mom, but yonkous gonna yonkou.

Like, zoro cheap shotting apoo is a fact, it doesn't even make zoro look bad, but it makes zoro fanboys look bad how you're trying to use zoro cheap shotting the fuck out of apoo as evidence, zoro literally lost to the yeti cool brothers (two weakling trio ass mother fuckers) with even more awareness of their blindsides. That doesn't mean Yeti Cool Brothers >>>>>>>>>>>> Zoro, and heck, Zoro didn't get up after that 2 pages later.

It's outrageous to pretend zoro cheap shotting apoo with a sword is particularly impressive, when drake was literally pinning him down. Just stop, it's a god damn manga, no need to make shit up and lie for a fictional characters ego.
That long post and you didn't say anything because it was full of headcannon.

Apoo never show to alternate between using his right and left hand while he was blocking Drake. He only showed to use his right hand so you just making stuff up.

You need to stop using examples that has someone holding another person down because that's a horrible comparison. Apoo was not held down by anybody, facts. The fact you continue to use that example proves you have nothing to counter my post.

You talk about logic but you are using bad comparisons.

A more accurate comparison would be you and your friend are fighting me and I'm blocking your attacks. Your friend that runs up to me from my front and punches me in the chest.

Was that a cheap shot, no it wasn't. Just because I couldn't evade, block, or counter the attack does it make it a cheap shot. It just means I wasn't fast or skill enough.

The reason I used Killer and fox as an example is because Zoro completely ignored the fox. He thought the fox would stop interfering in his battle because he was trying to save a woman and a child. Well, he was wrong and the fox continue to attack him but he was never able to hit Zoro. Even when Zoro was focused on the fox he still saw Killer's attack.

The point I'm making is being busy or distracted doesn't stop characters from seeing opponent attacks coming. Even if they are busy and not focus on them. Apoo not seeing a frontal attack coming from Zoro was because it was too fast for him to see. That shows the difference between their strength.

It's funny that you use the Cool yeti Brothers because even though they attacked Zoro and his group with a surprise attack, from their rear, during a blizzard that help hide their movement and presence and with a range attack they still saw the attack coming. Yet, Apoo couldn't see a frontal attack. Thanks for proving my point.

Zoro cut the tonfa not Drake. Zoro is the one that have showed to have strong cutting attacks that can cut through hard objects and powerful haki. Drake hasn't showed that. Yet you are claiming Drake, who's attacks are no different then his earlier attacks that were blocked, all of a sudden broke the tonfa. Just more headcannon.

This once again explain what Zoro did against Apoo.

Zoro used 8 ability to cut nothing against Apoo. Which is power that allows swordsman to only cut what they want to cut.

To take out Apoo, Zoro needed to cut through Apoo's tonfa or defense and he needs to cut Apoo. That's what he did. Zoro also needed to retrieve the antidote from Apoo so while he was cutting Apoo but before he reached the antidote Zoro switched over to not cut so he wouldn't cut the antidote. Instead, he knocked the antidote out of Apoo's clothes. That explains how the antidote went flying through the air while Apoo was still falling and Drake was finishing his attack that was going downwards.

The only downside about that was Zoro's attack wasn't as strong as it could have been because he didn't want to cut the antidote so he had to stop is cutting attack short.

Marco did accidentally heal Apoo. His concerns, along with Chopper, was suppressing the virus. That's the biggest threat on main floor. Once you are infected by it, it will eventually take over your body and you will attack anyone, friend or foe. That makes every infected person a potential threat regardless of which side they are on.

It make sense for Marco to use one huge attack that covered most of the main floor. That way he can make sure every infected person was hit. That's much faster and smarter than flying around and trying to find every infected person because there's a chance he may miss someone. Chopper didn't realize he was infected at first. Even if Marco's flames hits someone that's not infected it won't have a negative effect on him.

You need to stick to facts and drop the headcannon.
 

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Been on this forum for less than a week and lots like @Chrono and @HopOnTheHype are quickly thrown on my ignore list.

How do some of you guys manage to constantly put up with that lots? That some Younkou level patience. :lusalty:
You identified the brightest pearls pretty quickly. :cheers:
Eventually, you get amused by their headcanons and start laughing your ass off.
 
Been on this forum for less than a week and lots like @Chrono and @HopOnTheHype are quickly thrown on my ignore list.
How do some of you guys manage to constantly put up with that lots? That some Younkou level patience. :lusalty:

Lmao. Did you put 70% of vocal Zoro fanbase in your ignore list or your eyes only see Sanji fandom 'idotic' posts? That is some Pirate King level blindness.
 
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