Character Discussion Oda failed to make King and Queen menacing characters?

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Jo_Ndule

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#101
Just a member said:
In WCI BM was seen completely out of everybody's league bar plot power's which destroyed her and her hype and the one built to be the evil and strong main villain was Kata. Now Wano is of course building up Kaido the same or even more than BM yet this time he is the true villain of the arc so he gets everything while King, Kata's equivalent, geta only some small bits compared to what Kata get in WCI. Yet Queen on the contrary has a much better portrait than Smoothie even if their level of threat is prettt low as of now since they did nothing really intimidating (King best feat is beat Sanji with the RS saving the day and Queen managing to make BM regain her consciousness).
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Where did king beat sanji? Or saves the day?
He failed to Kill sanji, failed to recover Momo
He simply failed while sanji succeded
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Sword God Ryuma said:
Ussop takes all kind of attacks. He know for his durability and stop talking nonesense he wasn't trying to hurt them.

Ryuma was literally breaking a 21 grade sword. Absalom was gett his ass beaten by Sanji. Took advantage because Sanji wanted to protect Nami.

I never said it was or good thing. I am just saying you can't use it in this argument.
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Just stop
Zombie ryuma can't beat Absalom

Absalom>zombie ryuma
 
Chrono

Chrono

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#102
Sword God Ryuma said:
Ussop takes all kind of attacks. He know for his durability and stop talking nonesense he wasn't trying to hurt them.

Ryuma was literally breaking a 21 grade sword. Absalom was gett his ass beaten by Sanji. Took advantage because Sanji wanted to protect Nami.

I never said it was or good thing. I am just saying you can't use it in this argument.
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Why you ignoring the fact that Ryuma couldnt do shit to Zoro lol. Couldnt land one proper hit on him....worse than all of Zoro'a opponents.

Either way Ryuma has no way to counter Invisibility. He gets stomped.
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Gauntlet said:
Didn't Ussop tank the same explosion in Punk Hazard that supposedly fucked Sanji up so much that he could barely handle blocking a few kicks from Vergo? Seems to me that Sanji's just as brittle as chalk.
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Do you know what tank means ?

And Usopp was far more fucked up then Sanji. Its just that Usopp never went on to fight Vergo after. He literally did no physical fighting after the explosion.
 
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Sword God Ryuma

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#103
#103
Chrono said:
Why you ignoring the fact that Ryuma couldnt do shit to Zoro lol. Couldnt land one proper hit on him....worse than all of Zoro'a opponents.

Either way Ryuma has no way to counter Invisibility. He gets stomped.
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Ryuma was breaking 21 grade sword and was going back and fort with Zoro strong attacks. Absolm got manhandled. He wasn't near Sanji in soeed, strength or anything. Lol he just could turn invisible.
 
Weeman

Weeman

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#115
With Queen i'd agree, but that's mostly because of his goofy demeanor, which i think is a necessary change of pace from Jack and King's no nonsense attitude.Once we see him fight seriously this might change.

King however has show nothing but competence, the issue is that he hasn't had that many moments either, but the ones he's had have been pretty good i feel. Dude almost low diffed BM's crew, didn't flinch at all when refusing BM's offer and even manhandled raid suit Sanji.
Just give it some time.
 
Weeman

Weeman

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#117
Also the fans who think King and Queen would somehow not be a good enough fight for Zoro and Sanji are probably just wanking too much lol.
Like i understand that the story is implying that Zoro has to participate in the Kaido fight one way or another, but acting like King wouldn't be a good opponent for him is basically ZKK territory.
 
Warchief Sanji D Goat

Warchief Sanji D Goat

Zest Demon!😈
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#118
Guymieux said:
Sanji tanked it ? You just posted a panel of him getting knocked out . You are a real life doofus
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El Thor is one of the strongest, if not the strongest attack of Enel that he pulled. Who wouldn't get knocked out from that? Anyway, Sanji's goal wasn't to fight Enel, he's just want to save Nami and Usopp (successful) and blow up the ship in the meanwhile (also successful). Mission > Fighting an opponent.:kayneshrug:
Ichiro Miyata said:
Queen is trash but King is interesting.
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It's supposed to be the other way around LOL.:crazwhat:
 
sanjikun

sanjikun

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#120
#120
Jo_Ndule said:
Where did king beat sanji? Or saves the day?
He failed to Kill sanji, failed to recover Momo
He simply failed while sanji succeded
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Just stop
Zombie ryuma can't beat Absalom

Absalom>zombie ryuma
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Saying King beat Sanji is like saying Sasaki's troops beat Yamato. In fact, Sasaki's troops did more damage to Yamato than King did to Sanji.

When you're defending Momo = Not a real fight.
 
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