General & Others Bounty Discussion and Speculation

[JazzMazz]

Doesn't make sense given what we know of Yonko crew structure and bounties we have for reference. Flying Six are just under the Calamities, why would there be such a huge drop off when the lowest Calamity bounty is 1B? And guys who are just Headliners like Hawkins and Apoo are in the 300M range themselves? Going by Big Mom's crew, general members like Tamago and Pekoms have bounties of 300-400M. The closest to a Sweet Commander, Perospero, has a bounty of 700M. This would imply, at the very least, the strongest Tobi Roppo (probably Who's Who) should be in that range and the weakest should be at least above 350ish. If anything their bounties should skew higher since Kaido's crew's bounties have skewed higher than BM's crew's bounties. So Who's Who should be above 700M if the strongest non-commander in Big Mom's crew (Perospero) is 700M.

Guys like Daifuku, Oven and Bege all had 300 mil berry bounties.

Hawkin's and Apoo were still exceptionally capable headliner's despite having bounties in the 300 mil range.

Like, I expect the flying six to all have high bounties, but I don't expect them to have bounties higher than guys like Kidd.

Nothing we've seen from them suggests that most or all of them would be in that ball park of bounty.

I guess we'll learn when its revealed, but I'd be surprised if more than 1 or 2 of them had bounties over 500 mil.

 

[Jo_Ndule]

This is closest to my thinking on it.

Who's Who: High 600-Low 700 range
Sasaki: High 500-Low/Mid 600 range
Black Maria: High 400-Low 500 range
X Drake: 400 range
Ulti: High 300 range
Page One: Mid 300 range

This makes the most sense going off of what we know which I will get more into at the end of this post.


What's wrong with this? Drake had a 200 million bounty before the timeskip and is now one of the top 9 members of a Yonkou's crew...why wouldn't his bounty be in the 400 range? Hawkins and Apoo's bounties are both ~350M and they are under Drake. Luffy was inactive for 2 years, Drake became one of the top pirates in a Yonkou's crew. Nothing wrong with him equalling or slightly surpassing Luffy's bounty in that time.


Why not? Luffy's crew will have taken down a Yonkou's crew, significant bounty increases should be due for everyone. And just because Franky beats Sasaki doesn't mean his bounty has to surpass Sasaki's. Luffy will beat Kaido but his bounty still probably won't surpass Kaido's. More than just strength goes into bounties.


Not true. YC level bounties are at least 800M+. The lowest we know on record was Cracker who's bounty was over 800. Even if you want to count Snack, his bounty is still 600M. Tamago's bounty is almost 500M and he is not anywhere near a YC level character.


How do you know this?


Doesn't make sense given what we know of Yonko crew structure and bounties we have for reference. Flying Six are just under the Calamities, why would there be such a huge drop off when the lowest Calamity bounty is 1B? And guys who are just Headliners like Hawkins and Apoo are in the 300M range themselves? Going by Big Mom's crew, general members like Tamago and Pekoms have bounties of 300-400M. The closest to a Sweet Commander, Perospero, has a bounty of 700M. This would imply, at the very least, the strongest Tobi Roppo (probably Who's Who) should be in that range and the weakest should be at least above 350ish. If anything their bounties should skew higher since Kaido's crew's bounties have skewed higher than BM's crew's bounties. So Who's Who should be above 700M if the strongest non-commander in Big Mom's crew (Perospero) is 700M.

Every yc level pirate under yonko has 500M+ bounty

No flyer is famous or strong as YC/BM vets who are known in NW except WhoWho

If flyers had big bounties and were really strong, why would kaido need to introduce them to BM who knows much about pirates

Dont compare whowho to Pero
Pero portrayal > WhoWho
Whowho cant lead a yonko crew even if he's older while Pero can. And peto is nw veteran known much by people, even has rivalry with Marco

Whowho isn't even recognised by Jinbei

Please at this rate
Whowho might have 500-600M at best
The rest below 500

 

[Yasuda]

1. Who's Who: 500,000,000
2. X Drake: 444,000,000
3. Sasaki: 385,000,000
4. Ulti: 340,000,000
5. Black Maria: 320,000,000
6. Page One: 300,000,000

One last prediction before chapter 1000.

 

[Finalbeta]

1. Who's Who: 500,000,000
2. X Drake: 444,000,000
3. Sasaki: 385,000,000
4. Ulti: 340,000,000
5. Black Maria: 320,000,000
6. Page One: 300,000,000

One last prediction before chapter 1000.

Don't these sound a bit too low? They are members of a yonko crew and Who is Who might be meant to be very close to Jack's level eventually. We need to find that out with more material at disposal however. Otherwise still not that far I guess since it shall not be easy at all for Jinbe to bring him down.

 

[rerere]

Flying 6 current Bounties

Who's Who - 495 million
Sasaki - 460 million
Drake - 420 million
Black Maria - 350 million
Ulti - 300 million
P1 - 300 million

 

[JazzMazz]

Flying 6 current Bounties

Who's Who - 495 million
Sasaki - 460 million
Drake - 420 million
Black Maria - 350 million
Ulti - 300 million
P1 - 300 million

I think that's a generally solid estimates. I wouldn't think they'd be that much higher than the bounties given to guys like Hawkins and Apoo.

 

[rerere]

I think that's a generally solid estimates. I wouldn't think they'd be that much higher than the bounties given to guys like Hawkins and Apoo.

Who's Who and Sasaki are older, so I gave them the benefit of the doubt with bounties around Kidd and Law (top SN leaving Luffy aside), Drake shouldn't have a bounty higher than Kidd (470) and Law (440 before and 500 now) for the same reason, so I took some millions away from him.
Black Maria, Ulti and P1 should be between 250 million and 350 million (gut feeling, cause they are younger and aren't portrayed as the most dangerous)

 

[JazzMazz]

Who's Who and Sasaki are older, so I gave them the benefit of the doubt with bounties around Kidd and Law (top SN leaving Luffy aside), Drake shouldn't have a bounty higher than Kidd (470) and Law (440 before and 500 now) for the same reason, so I took some millions away from him.
Black Maria, Ulti and P1 should be between 250 million and 350 million (gut feeling, cause they are younger and aren't portrayed as the most dangerous)

Yeah. I think that people seriously underestimate the fact that bounties of 300 mil are still considered incredibly formidable.

 

[Blackbeard]

Btw Prime WB > Rocks D Xebec.

No one in Piracy history has a higher bounty than WB aside of Roger it was said by Brandnew.

Rocks was the far more dangerous individual yet WB still has the higher Bounty.

Wonder if WB wasn't already stronger than his captain at the time of GOD VALLEY and simply betrayed him.

Brannew said they barely have any details about Rocks Pirates before Sengoku narrated the God Valley incident to the younger marines. The World Government wanted to hide everything about Xebec. God Valley pretty much vanished from any map.

Sengoku: "They only exist in the memories of a few soldiers in our old generation"

If bounties are issued by the World Government, and they went out of their way to cover everything related to Xebec who aspired to uncover the Void Century info, it means his bounty was also erased from history records and Brannew wouldn't have known about it.

 

[Extravlad]

Brannew said they barely have any details about Rocks Pirates before Sengoku narrated the God Valley incident to the younger marines. The World Government wanted to hide everything about Xebec. God Valley pretty much vanished from any map.

Doesn't make any sense. Garp is a legendary hero known to the world for defeating ROCKS
They have hidden Rocks' intentions and the true purpose of his actions, not his existence or bounty.
Sengoku even says you won't find the reason as to why Garp doesn't speak of God Valley in the newspaper : the Celestial Dragon and Roger alliance thing, the event however was told to the world.

Sengoku: "They only exist in the memories of a few soldiers in our old generation"

He's speaking of of the taboos that Rocks and his crew broke : meaning some Void Century related shit

If bounties are issued by the World Government, and they went out of their way to cover everything related to Xebec who aspired to uncover the Void Century info, it means his bounty was also erased from history records and Brannew wouldn't have known about it.

They did not cover everything related to Xebec. Garp became worldwide famous by defeating him, they covered the D, the intent and the VC related actions.

 

[Luffy bin Dragon]

BOUNTIES

Flying 6

• WsW ~ 600M tops
• Sasaki ~ 300M
• BM ~ 275M
• P1 ~ 190M
• Ulti ~ 210M

Top Bounties [Post Wano]

• Luffy ~ 3B
• Kid ~ 2B
• Law ~ 2B
• Zoro ~ 1.7-2B
• King ~ 1.7B

Legends

• Marco ~ 2B
• Rayleigh ~ 3B
• Mihawk ~ 3B

Straw-hats

• Kozuki Oden/Yamato ~ 1.2B [I'm not joking, this will most likely be a future gag]
• Sanji ~ 900M - 1B
• Jinbei ~ 800M
• Robin ~ 1B (3 Road Poneglyphs) or 300 M
• Usopp ~ 600M
• Franky ~ 500M
• Brook ~ 275M
• Chopper ~ 200M (please stop this cringe gag)
• Nami ~ 150M

Blackbeard Pirates

• Blackbeard ~ 4B [After attack on Alabasta ~ Marygeoise ~ 3rd DF or wtvr]
• Shiryu ~ 2B
• Burgess ~ 800M
• Van Ogre ~ 700M
• Avalo Pizarro ~ 600M

Red-Haired Pirates

• Ben Beckman ~ 2B
• Yasopp ~ 1.7B
• Lucky Roux ~ 1.5B

The lafitte disrespect is off the charts
Anyway praise the Demon Sheriff

 

[rerere]

The lafitte disrespect is off the charts
Anyway praise the Demon Sheriff

Dude is chief of the staff, not the last moron of the fleet

 

[critical mindset]

Brannew said they barely have any details about Rocks Pirates before Sengoku narrated the God Valley incident to the younger marines. The World Government wanted to hide everything about Xebec. God Valley pretty much vanished from any map.

Sengoku: "They only exist in the memories of a few soldiers in our old generation"

If bounties are issued by the World Government, and they went out of their way to cover everything related to Xebec who aspired to uncover the Void Century info, it means his bounty was also erased from history records and Brannew wouldn't have known about it.

Check out latest spoiler...

 

[Blackbeard]

Doesn't make any sense. Garp is a legendary hero known to the world for defeating ROCKS
They have hidden Rocks' intentions and the true purpose of his actions, not his existence or bounty.
Sengoku even says you won't find the reason as to why Garp doesn't speak of God Valley in the newspaper : the Celestial Dragon and Roger alliance thing, the event however was told to the world.


He's speaking of of the taboos that Rocks and his crew broke : meaning some Void Century related shit


They did not cover everything related to Xebec. Garp became worldwide famous by defeating him, they covered the D, the intent and the VC related actions.

It wasn't widely known that Garp earned his epithet specifically for beating Rocks Pirates since the entire incident was covered up:

Spoiler

How did Garp become worldwide famous when not even younger marines know about the incident? Marines already said there are too many legends roaming around Garp that could have earned him that epithet, but they knew nothing about God Valley.

 

[Extravlad]

It wasn't widely known that Garp earned his epithet specifically for beating Rocks Pirates since the entire incident was covered up:

Spoiler

How did Garp become worldwide famous when not even younger marines know about the incident? Marines already said there are too many legends roaming around Garp that could have earned him that epithet, but they knew nothing about God Valley.

What wasn't reported is that he had to team up with Roger. Not that he defeated Rocks
Come on man you think the propaganda Machine that is the WG wouldn't jump on the chance of announcing to the world that they DEFEATED the greatest Pirate Crew in the world?

 

[NotTommy]

Who's Who: 400-500 million. Personally, I don't think Who's Who's bounty will surpass Cracker's even though he seems to be at a level where he can challenge a Calamity, plus he needs to back-up that claim. Jimbei could probably challenge a Calamity, he's famous throughout the New World, was a former Warlord and was a former ally of Big Mom's yet his bounty hasn't even hit 600 million so it's clear even if Who's Who's bounty isn't ridiculous he could still challenge a Calamity.

Sasaki: 320-450 million (same as Sasaki, it's possible to have a reasonable bounty and still challenge a Calamity. Plus, he hasn't proved he's at a level to face a Calamity on his own, he's only claimed he could. He's currently facing Franky so we'll see how it goes.)

Black Maria: 250-350 (wide range as it's unclear what she's capable of at the moment). Sanji seems relatively fine at the moment though she isn't serious either.

Ulti: 270-350 million (Luffy saying he'll use G4 isn't enough to place her super high as he seemed to be in a rush and wanted to end things quickly. Plus he used G4 on a Number so it's clearly it's easy for him to shift from forms currently).

Page One: 250-320 million (hasn't shown anything for me to place him higher, he appears to be one of, if not, the weakest member(s), and has had 3 encounters in the arc, more than any other current Flying six).

Oven and Daifuku have bounties around those figures so it's reasonable for the Flying Six to have bounties around there. Perospero, while not a Sweet Commander, is the closest to Big Mom and is the eldest (most experience and has sailed longest, presumably) so he's an exception.

 

[Electricmastro]

Going under the assumption that One Piece belly currency is comparable to Japanese yen, then these would apparently be the top revealed bounties when converted to US dollars:

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

in the event those 5 succeed in bring both down
luffy - 3.75 bil
Kidd - 2.2bil
law - 2.2 bil
zoro - 1.8-2 bil
killer - 1.3 bil

 

[Monet]

when luffy defeated doffy with law
he didn't get huge jump as croco lucci katakuri , even in the news and the report to akainu and goroci said by alliance of luffy and law
so i don't think luffy bounty will jump in bounty after wano , it will be something similar to doffy . kaidou has fallen by alliance of
8 WG members+plus marco and maybe marines, wano samurai etc , so luffy will only rise above 2B a little.

as i said

:cheers:

only the 2 who will reach 2b is kid and luffy
the rest will be only above 1b
except zoro with the highest bounty 2B.300mil

 

[Blackbeard]

What's with all these hilarious 2B Luffy estimations? he's not beating a calamity this arc, he will get nothing below 4B after Wano, the bounty inflation for Luffy/Teach after Wano should be big enough to dwarf the mere Yonko, and Luffy's final bounty would far surpass Roger's. i don't buy that 56 shit.

Estimating anything below 4 billions After Luffy's last declaration is just laughable at this point.